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posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 12:53 PM
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Very ineresting point that "quango" brings up. "Is heavean a planet?" Makes me see things in a very different point of view. Very nice reply.




posted on Mar, 23 2004 @ 03:07 PM
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This Great Lie and Deception was started around 1948. Several things happened around that time. Israel became a Nation again, A World War, The Roswell Crash, The First Movies about Travel to other Planets. It has been Fifty-Six(56) years since the Roswell Crash and to this date there is no one that can produce "one" photo that you can look at and say "Yep It's A UFO". Nor can anyone provide you with "ONE" peice of evidence from any UFO ANYWHERE in the World. Further, the famous ALIEN AUTOPSY has been proven to be a deception. The question becomes , why are they trying to make us believe that there is life on other planets and that "we have been visited" what a joke. Here is the TRUTH. In 1948 when Isreal became a nation again, satan knew his time would be short, he knew that in this next generation "Jesus would return to the earth as King of Kings and Lord of Lords" He knew that he would be given one last period of 3 1/2 years to rule over man as god and establish his Kingdom, just like Jesus comes back to set up his "Eternal Kingdom" satan hates man and if not for the grace of God he would destroy us all. He has put into play his last and greatest deception of them all "The Lie" the UFO Hoax. here is how it all will work out. it will happen in middle of the seven year tribulation period, the Rapture of the Church will take place, millions of people will disappear and then, he shall come forth "The Anti-Christ" with all signs and "Lying Wonders" He shall tell this Great Lie, that he has sent all the Christians to another planet where they can serve their God, for the Christians had been trying to destroy the system that the Anti-Christ was putting in place for World Peace and Prosperity. The IFOs (identified flying objects) built at area 51 will be in the skies above and will help to back up the Anti-Christ claim to be God. This is why the people will say "Who is able to make War with the Beast" and the whole world "Wondered" after the Beast. with all the confusion surrounding the Rapture of the Church the Beast will put forth an order that everyone be given a mark(digital angel chip) in their right hand or forehead, and that No Man, woman will be able to buy or sell without this mark. with the use of the cameras that are now being placed everywhere, in homes, business's, city streets, IN satellite recievers, IN cable boxes, IN phone connected computer devices and everywhere else, The Anti-Christ will be able to monitor all the movement of the people. There will be nowhere to hide. These cameras are what I call "The Eyes Of The Anti-Christ" They are satans version of the "All Seeing Eye Of God" Sadly, most of those that miss the rapture will fall for this LIE. That is the way it will happen and everything is in place for it to begin at any time.



posted on Sep, 21 2004 @ 12:52 AM
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If you dont get raptured up you still could be saved. Those who stay that belive in god will be chossen to spread the word of god. You will prob. die for his name sake. But try to let others know about jesus and the anti christ.

You will always be able to call on jesus to save you, but once you take the mark you are no longer jesus's sheep, but satan's cow to butcher.






posted on Sep, 21 2004 @ 04:03 AM
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It's great to see a thread with many people agreeing with the idea that these aliens are demons and fallen angels. There are so few of us.

Lets spread the word


Ycon



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by Lastday Prophet
This Great Lie and Deception was started around 1948. Several things happened around that time. Israel became a Nation again, A World War, The Roswell Crash, The First Movies about Travel to other Planets. It has been Fifty-Six(56) years since the Roswell Crash and to this date there is no one that can produce "one" photo that you can look at and say "Yep It's A UFO". Nor can anyone provide you with "ONE" peice of evidence from any UFO ANYWHERE in the World. Further, the famous ALIEN AUTOPSY has been proven to be a deception. The question becomes , why are they trying to make us believe that there is life on other planets and that "we have been visited" what a joke. Here is the TRUTH. In 1948 when Isreal became a nation again, satan knew his time would be short, he knew that in this next generation "Jesus would return to the earth as King of Kings and Lord of Lords" He knew that he would be given one last period of 3 1/2 years to rule over man as god and establish his Kingdom, just like Jesus comes back to set up his "Eternal Kingdom" satan hates man and if not for the grace of God he would destroy us all. He has put into play his last and greatest deception of them all "The Lie" the UFO Hoax. here is how it all will work out. it will happen in middle of the seven year tribulation period, the Rapture of the Church will take place, millions of people will disappear and then, he shall come forth "The Anti-Christ" with all signs and "Lying Wonders" He shall tell this Great Lie, that he has sent all the Christians to another planet where they can serve their God, for the Christians had been trying to destroy the system that the Anti-Christ was putting in place for World Peace and Prosperity. The IFOs (identified flying objects) built at area 51 will be in the skies above and will help to back up the Anti-Christ claim to be God. This is why the people will say "Who is able to make War with the Beast" and the whole world "Wondered" after the Beast. with all the confusion surrounding the Rapture of the Church the Beast will put forth an order that everyone be given a mark(digital angel chip) in their right hand or forehead, and that No Man, woman will be able to buy or sell without this mark. with the use of the cameras that are now being placed everywhere, in homes, business's, city streets, IN satellite recievers, IN cable boxes, IN phone connected computer devices and everywhere else, The Anti-Christ will be able to monitor all the movement of the people. There will be nowhere to hide. These cameras are what I call "The Eyes Of The Anti-Christ" They are satans version of the "All Seeing Eye Of God" Sadly, most of those that miss the rapture will fall for this LIE. That is the way it will happen and everything is in place for it to begin at any time.


Actually, i have to disagree with one thing here, and i have a statement about something else said by someone else. I do not believe that there will be confusion as to what happened during the rapture, i believe the false prophet before the anti-christ will explain it by saying that they took these people to their planet, as they plan to take everyone, to see our creator. They were just the first group. Then later, when the Anti-Christ comes to full power he will say he wants to just visit us all at once. So, he visits us all, and takes his unrightful seat on the throne of David. Thus, many will be decieved. Many will call him God, i actually kinda want God to say you have a chose, come with me to heaven, or convince others on earth about the end of times. I would love to preach God's word to the masses. It all makes way tooo much sense. The other thing i wanted to comment on is that there have been documented cases where an alien goes to abduct a christian and they rebuke the aliens in the name of Jesus and the Aliens just leave.

[edit on 22-9-2004 by Ryanp5555]



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 12:42 AM
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Originally posted by JON
I've heard that aliens are really just the angels that were cast from heaven here to deceive us in the end times.
Anyone else here this theory?
I found this on the web:
(from:www.mt.net...)
[Edited on 20-3-2004 by JON]


Thanks for that link. I saved it. I have two books along this vein. I have to admit, I never heard of any Believer in Jesus being abducted or bothered in any way. I have heard of non-believing folks getting into channeling, fortune telling, and etc, but never a believer. Kind of like an Insurance Policy, eh?
Anyway those books are
UFO End Time Delusion
by David Allen Lewis and Robert Shreckhise
Copywright 1991 New Leaf Press
ISBN 0-89221-213-6
and
UFOS and the Alien Agenda
by Bob Larson
Copywright 1997 Thomas Nelson Publishers
ISBN 0-7852-7812-1



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by Ryanp5555
[. The other thing i wanted to comment on is that there have been documented cases where an alien goes to abduct a christian and they rebuke the aliens in the name of Jesus and the Aliens just leave.

[edit on 22-9-2004 by Ryanp5555]


Thank you. I was unaware of this. I stand corrected.



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 12:57 AM
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actually in this very forum there is a post with like 5 links to 5 different pages with lots of stories to the rebuking in jesus' name and the aliens leaving.



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 01:22 AM
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here are some interesting links

www.uforanks.com...

www.alienresistance.org...

home.flash.net...

www.logoschristian.org...


www.uforanks.com...


i know this is the same page, but this will take you straight to testemonies!

Testimonies



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 07:16 PM
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Ryanp5555, again I thank you. After skimming them, I bookmarked those sites you just gave me. I fully intend to spend some time going over them. They had some interesting links, too.

Speaking of Links. here is about the best free online Bible resource list I have found yet.
Name---Ultimate Bible Study and Resources Center

Address--www.gnic4u.com...



posted on Sep, 22 2004 @ 07:28 PM
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First...this has been discussed before here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

It was awhile back, but here is what I had to say (essentially quoting myself):

"I've had this thought for awhile now...

What if the whole concept of God/Devil originated from an ancient battle between 2 different species of Extraterrestrials who were possibly battling for Earth. What I mean is that throughout human history, history is always written by the victors, meaning that the concept of God, Angels, etc. came from the victors and the concept of Devil, demons, etc. came from the losers.

Im not saying this is a fact, but most religions on Earth decribe their Gods as having "supernatural" powers and "coming down from the heavens", in both Polytheistic and Monotheistic religions.

The victors of the battle may have got "control" of Earth and proclaimed themselves as Earths saviors and the "good" side. Whereas the losers would have been written into history as "evil" and "bad".

This would explain why there is a prevalance of UFO/Alien type of descriptions in religious books such as the Bible, Bagavad Gita, Mahabarata, Koran, etc.


Remember, in history the conquered people are always told they are the "wrong" ones by the victors, and only the victors ways are correct. Just look at Pagan religions that were conquered by the Christians....as soon as they were beaten the ideals of the new order would be implemented."



posted on Sep, 23 2004 @ 12:32 AM
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I am somewhat amazed. I went for several years thinking nobody but me and a couple authors "Out Yonder Someplace" saw this connection between Aliens and Satan. Now I find that others have come to the same conclusion. We must be few and far between because I never found anybody who admits to believing this. Too many times well meaning people dismiss abductions and sightings as nonsense or halucinations. They are frighteningly real.
NEVER compromise what God said in the Bible into what somebody else tries to convince you that He said. Let His words be your guide.
For example, since this started as a question about Aliens and Satan, I will refer you to the Bible book of Revelation.
Almost all my life I have been told that it is a series of Visions. I had always read it that way and had a very hard time understanding it. However, one day I began reading it as it was written, without preconcieved notions as to it's meaning. It Does start as a vision,
Chapter 1 vs. 10: "I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day".....
BUT while still in the Spirit,
in Chapter 4 vs. 1: "After this I looked, and, behold, a door was opened in heaven: and the first voice which I heard was as it were of a trumpet talking with me; which said, Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter.
2: And immediately I was in the spirit"...
This is where I think the rest quits being a vision. This is reality. John begins describing what he sees in real time, his experiences. He asks questions and tells of his actions. Other biblical Prophets do not do that. If you realize that a man of that time would not have the words to describe todays technology, it becomes easier to understand the rest of the book of Revelation.



posted on Sep, 23 2004 @ 12:32 AM
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well how do you explain heaven? how do you explain Isiah the prophet and his viewings... creep yourself out, look up Isiah Chapter 30 verse 25



posted on Sep, 23 2004 @ 01:09 AM
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Originally posted by Ryanp5555
well how do you explain heaven? how do you explain Isiah the prophet and his viewings... creep yourself out, look up Isiah Chapter 30 verse 25


25: And there shall be upon every high mountain, and upon every high hill, rivers and streams of waters in the day of the great slaughter, when the towers fall. ( KJV )

A test of God's Prophets is that they are never wrong. Some He spoke to, some he gave visions. John, I think, was taken to write of his experiences. In reading, I get the feeling he was greatly troubled by this. I wonder if Isiah understood what he wrote?
You ask "How can you explain Heaven?" A created place , a home for the Creator and Ruler of the Universe? A home for his servants, angels, cherubs etc. and a home for his Family? We ARE called the Sons of God.
Romans 8: 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
Perhaps, if you picture Heaven as a Castle where the Supreme Ruler lives with his most trusted administrators, surrounded by thousands of miles of land inhabited by fiercely loyal loving supporters.
This may not be what you were looking for, but on short notice, it's the explanation I can give.



posted on Sep, 23 2004 @ 02:18 AM
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What is with all the doom saying? Do you really know enough about aliens to say that they are the devil? This thread is obnoxiously moronic, and undeniably ignorant. This thread is a discredit to the creed of ATS!

With hard headed easily swayed individuals like you around, I could understand if are aliens here that are not of ill intention why they wouldnt want to announce themselves. This is a witch hunt. You are throwing accusations about supposed beings that you could possibly and absolutely in no way know anything about with certainty.

denego insciens



[edit on 23-9-2004 by Seth76]



posted on Sep, 23 2004 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by Seth76
What is with all the doom saying? Do you really know enough about aliens to say that they are the devil? This thread is obnoxiously moronic, and undeniably ignorant. This thread is a discredit to the creed of ATS!

With hard headed easily swayed individuals like you around, I could understand if are aliens here that are not of ill intention why they wouldnt want to announce themselves. This is a witch hunt. You are throwing accusations about supposed beings that you could possibly and absolutely in no way know anything about with certainty.

denego insciens



[edit on 23-9-2004 by Seth76]




well then this whole messageboard is a discredit to ATS because assuming something is an alien, which is a whole witch hunt in itself, or a ufo is recieving ignorance. How do you know its not a being from this planet? How do you know these people aren't insane? How do you know the government is telling the truth and you are just coming up with something you want to believe? Some people say that there are thousands and thousands of people who encounter aliens, it can't all just be a lie. Well what about the billions and billions of people who atest to God as existing. What about the billions of people before us, and the prophets, and Jesus? What about all of that? Are you not accepting ignorance for denying religion. Even if you do believe, are you not accepting ignorance by saying that our theory on Aliens is a shame? It fits perfectly into everything the bible says. Is it not ignorant to think that Aliens created us, and deny the rest of the religions? Deny ignorance can be taken on sooo many levels. By denying some ignorance you are always accepting another form of ignorance. So, before you go and get on our case about what WE are interested in posting because this is what WE believe, stop and think, why am i attacking these people for believing this, why do i feel like i have to post an arrogant responce in something i don't believe. If you don't believe it then fine, but saying it is denying ignorance is hypocrasy, and that makes you a disgrace to this board because nothing is more ignorant than hypocrasy.



posted on Sep, 23 2004 @ 10:37 PM
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Cool it gang. If you have something to say I'm sure you can do it without insults. I just did. See?



posted on Sep, 23 2004 @ 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Ryanp5555
well then this whole messageboard is a discredit to ATS because assuming something is an alien, which is a whole witch hunt in itself, or a ufo is recieving ignorance.

No sir, there are things going on that have no reasonable explanation. There are things flying around that have no way of being explained by the known laws of Science.



How do you know its not a being from this planet?

I never said that UFOs couldnt be from this planet. Unidentified Flying Object in no way states that it from another world.



How do you know these people aren't insane?

Good point.



How do you know the government is telling the truth and you are just coming up with something you want to believe?

Im not making anything up. I really do hope that the g men are telling the truth but the shreds of verifiable evidence might be viewed to contradict their truethfullness.



Some people say that there are thousands and thousands of people who encounter aliens, it can't all just be a lie. Well what about the billions and billions of people who atest to God as existing. What about the billions of people before us, and the prophets, and Jesus? What about all of that? Are you not accepting ignorance for denying religion.

I never denied religion. I denied the ignorance of demonizing alien life. All alien life according to some of the previous posts.



Even if you do believe, are you not accepting ignorance by saying that our theory on Aliens is a shame? It fits perfectly into everything the bible says.

Theory is the wrong term, try using theology next time. And no it doesnt even remotely fit. The bible has been construed to fit the needs of politicians to cults. The holy bible has been the cause of death and destruction by people doing the exact same thing you are here. Religions have caused some of the cruelest and savage events in history, leaving on the face of humanity the most hideous scars, to the shame of our race. And it all starts a simply as you are doing here. Do you need a history lesson?



Is it not ignorant to think that Aliens created us, and deny the rest of the religions?

Again, you are putting words in my mouth. I didnt say this.



Deny ignorance can be taken on sooo many levels. By denying some ignorance you are always accepting another form of ignorance. So, before you go and get on our case about what WE are interested in posting because this is what WE believe, stop and think, why am i attacking these people for believing this, why do i feel like i have to post an arrogant responce in something i don't believe. If you don't believe it then fine, but saying it is denying ignorance is hypocrasy, and that makes you a disgrace to this board because nothing is more ignorant than hypocrasy.



hypocrisy
n 1: an expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction [syn: lip service] 2: insincerity by virtue of pretending to have qualities or beliefs that you do not really have



[edit on 23-9-2004 by Seth76]



posted on Sep, 24 2004 @ 12:55 AM
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Personally this theory makes very little sense to me. I used to be a christian and putting myself back into those shoes I can see how it would make sense to other christians. But looking at it through my eyes of today all I see is a bunch of people trying to twist the conflicting idea of aliens so that it fits nicely into their religious views.

Let me just say, IF this theory is correct and aliens are nothing but tools of "satan" to help bring the anti-christ into power then satan is the single dumbest entity in all of existence. Bringing an anti-christ to power would be the dumbest move ever in the history of the universe.

Look at the state of our world today. Killing, starving, poverty, adultery, etc. etc. etc. The world has turned into a materialistic race for power. The number of selfish materialistic people in this world grows everyday and our society caters to them. We are doing a great job destroying ourselves and its only getting worse.

If satan thinks that bringing an anti-christ to power in this world is a good idea then God must have forgotten to give him a brain. What he should do is sit back, give us a good kick every once in awhile and let us destroy ourselves. Then when we have nearly killed ourselves off God will have to step in to save us from ourselves. Satan doesn't even need to show his face or make himself known. Once God has saved us (from ourselves!) satan can get right back to work deceiving us again and we will never have to see him.

Satan if you're reading this... Seriously what the hell are you thinking?

Be honest with yourselves guys. What makes more sense to you? The idea that out of trillions of galaxies with trillions of planets that the war between good and evil is focused entirely on our insignificant planet or that in this enormouse universe we are simply, not alone?



posted on Sep, 24 2004 @ 11:54 AM
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Read about my UFO encounter


Seth76,
I did just that. It reminds me a little of a sighting my parents had in the mid 1960's, because the physical (?) descriptions of the objects are so similar. (1966 I think),
Dad was coming home from work after midnight when he saw a light following him. It turned when he did and it hovered over the house while he went to get Mom out of bed to look at it. They say it hovered about 20 or 30 minutes. Then it went a little north to a spot over Government land, the Ravenna Arsenal, (Portage County, Ohio) which had been established during WWll but had been partially re-activated during the Viet Nam war. They said it stopped, then shot off like a bullet to the west. It stopped then "rose like an elevator" at an incredible speed until it was out of sight. They both wondered if the Munitions Facilities across the street had something to do with the sighting.
Both Christians, they believed in Extraterresterial Life. I did for a time myself. It was sometime after I worked my way cover-to-cover through the Bible that I started seeing Demonic influences in ET's and their craft.
By the way, I reread a couple of my posts, did I really get that far off topic? I did not think so. The original question dealt with Aliens, Satan, and the End Times. I thought , and still do think, that I stayed within those boundaries. As far as any "doom' talk, isn't that what End Times is all about?




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