Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Your wish is my command. This component was found on the Pentagon Lawn, and it has a very clear serial number. It was identified as the power supply for the emergency lights for flight 77.
Flight 77 wreckage

Don't back down now, not unless you're willing to apologise and admit being wrong.

Yes, WTC 1 did fall on WTC 7. Aerial photos taken by NOAA show a trail of devestation leading from WTC 1, bulldozing right through WTC 5 and 6, and leading into WTC 7.

Bad logic. The NYFD themselves said the fires in WTC 7 were out of control, so it stands to reason that an "out of control fire" would be close to a window, somewhere, and being close to a window, that would necessarily be the window the news stations would be focusing their cameras on.

"a concocted event" is unwarranted innuendo.

The NYFD themselves said the fires in WTC 7 were out of control

This is becuase the gov't wants to try Al Qaida in military courts, not civil courts, so it's outside of the FBI's jurisdiction.

Established by Usama Bin Ladin in the late 1980s to bring together Arabs who fought in Afghanistan against the Soviet Union. Helped finance, recruit, transport, and train Sunni Islamic extremists for the Afghan resistance. Current goal is to establish a pan-Islamic Caliphate throughout the world by working with allied Islamic extremist groups to overthrow regimes it deems “non-Islamic” and expelling Westerners and non-Muslims from Muslim countries–particularly Saudi Arabia. Issued statement under banner of “the World Islamic Front for Jihad Against the Jews and Crusaders” in February 1998, saying it was the duty of all Muslims to kill US citizens—civilian or military—and their allies everywhere. Merged with Egyptian Islamic Jihad (Al-Jihad) in June 2001.

It is often said that bin Ladin was funded by the CIA. This is not true, and indeed it would have been impossible given the structure of funding that General Zia ul-Haq, who had taken power in Pakistan in 1977, had set up. A condition of Zia's cooperation with the American plan to turn Afghanistan into the Soviet's 'Vietnam' was that all American funding to the Afghan resistance had to be channeled through the Pakistani government, which effectively meant the Afghan bureau of the Inter Services Intelligence (ISI), the military spy agency. The American funding, which went exclusively to the Afghan mujahideen groups, not the Arab volunteers [bin Ladin's groups], was supplemented by Saudi government money and huge funds raised from mosques, non-governmental charitable institutions and private donors throughout the Islamic world. Most of the major Gulf-based charities operating today were founded at this time to raise money or channel government funds to the Afghans, civilians and fighters. In fact, as little as 25 per cent of the monet for the Afghan jihad was actually supplied directly by states

Moreover, the Afghan Arabs demonstrated a pathological dislike of Westerners. Jouvenal says: "I always kept away from Arabs [in Afghanistan]. They were very hostile. They would ask, 'What are you doing in an Islamic country?" The BBC reporter John Simpson had a close call with bin Ladin himself outside Jalalabad in 1989. Travelling with a group of Arab mujahideen, Simpson and his television crew bumped into an Arab man beautifully dressed in spotless white robes; the man began shouting at Simpson's escorts to kill the infidels, then offered a truck driver the not unreasonable sum of five hundred dollars to do the job. Simpson's Afghan escort turned down the request, and bin Ladin was to be found later on a camp bed, weeping in frustration. Only when bin Ladin became a public figure, almost a decade later, did Simpson realise who the mysterious Arab was who had wanted him dead

the handful of Americans who had heard of bin Ladin in the 1980's knew him mainly for his violently anti-American views. Dana Rohrabacher, now a Republican congressman from Orange County, California, told me about a trip he took with the mujihideen in 1987. At the time, Rohrabacher was a Reagan aide who delighted in taking long overland trips inside Afghanistan with anti-Communist forces. On one such trek, his guide told him not to speak English for the next few hours because they were passing by bin Ladin's encampment. Rohrabacher was told, "If he hears an American, he will kill you."

Fisk: ...what of the Arab mujahedin he took to Afghanistan - members of a guerilla army who were also encouraged and armed by the United States - and who were forgotten when that war was over? bin Ladin: "Personally neither I nor my brothers saw evidence of American help...

Half of the highjackers have been subsequently found alive in various Arab countries after 9/11, two were interviewed by the BBC.

The FBI had collected the DNA from tiny traces of skin on the steering wheels of vehicles hired by the hijackers and from hair samples recovered from their hotel rooms. Earlier this month, the FBI provided profiles of all 10 hijackers, including alleged ringleader Mohammad Atta, so their remains could be separated from those of victims.

The highjackers were supposedly devout Muslims but they drank and did drugs and frequented strip clubs.

It's weird that paper passports of the highjackers survived the fireball of impact when nothing else did. Seems more like planted evidence

On September 11 2002, one year Anniversary of the death of our son, we were informed that the Recovery team at Ground Zero have found the ATM Bank card of Waleed [Iskandar, passenger on Flight 11] and that it will be mailed to us in Northridge. When we received it, we found it in good condition

In February, the day of the Columbia tragedy, we got word they'd found her United Airlines Mileage Plus card. It was found very near where they'd found a piece of her right hip. We imagine that she used the card early on the morning of Sept. 11 to get on the plane and just stuck it in her back pocket, probably her right back pocket, instead of in her purse. They have found no other personal effects".

On Oct. 12, it arrived inside a second envelope at Mrs. Snyder's modest white house on Main Street here, and the instant she took it out and saw it, she says, chills just went over me. It was singed and crumpled. A chunk was ripped out, giving the bottom of the envelope she had sent the look of a jagged skyline. Mrs. Snyder's lyrical script had blurred into the scorched paper. The stamp, depicting a World War II sailor embracing a woman welcoming him home, was intact. Along with the letter was a note: To whom it may concern. This was found floating around the street in downtown New York. I am sorry if you suffered any loss in this tragedy. Sincerely, a friend in New York! Since then, Mrs. Snyder, a customer service representative at a grocery store, has discovered that she has one of only two pieces of mail known to have been recovered from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. At least one auction house has contacted her, saying she could sell the letter for tens of thousands of dollars.

United Airlines Flight 93 slammed into the earth Sept. 11 near Shanksville, Somerset County, at more than 500 mph, with a ferocity that disintegrated metal, bone and flesh. It took more than three months to identify the remains of the 40 passengers and crew, and, by process of elimination, the four hijackers... But searchers also gathered surprisingly intact mementos of lives lost. Those items, such as a wedding ring and other jewelry, photos, credit cards, purses and their contents, shoes, a wallet and currency, are among seven boxes of identified personal effects salvaged from the site.

• The fires were cool and oxygen starved right before the collapse. You can see a woman standing in the plane hole waving for help. No steel building has ever collapsed due to fire before or after 9/11. On 9/11 there were three.

• Several secret investors bought huge "put options" on American Airlines and United Airlines just before 9/11 but the 9/11 Commission decided they wouldn't investigate because they weren't Al Qaeda. Serious.

Cheney was in the Presidential Emergency Operations Center overseeing the diversionary terrorist drill coinciding with real terrorist act.

• There's no plane wreckage, no marks on the lawn, no luggage, no bodies and no engines in front of the Pentagon.

The plane/missile hit the part of the Pentagon where the financial records of the military showing huge wastage and corruption were kept. These were destroyed.

• Cell phone calls were made from the plane that crashed in Pen. but this is technically impossible, you can't make a call from a plane at cruising altitude.

No, actually, it's really the case that I generally don't post sources unless someone asks me

becuase if I posted links to ever single thing I said, my posts would be too convoludedly long.

Besides, there are loads more people here reading my posts than just the ones who respond,

and I guarantee some of them are doing google searches on my posts in hopes of "catching me in a lie" and it's clear from their silence that noone has.

If you want me to post a source then ask me for a source. I have the truth on my side so I have nothing to hide.

All right then, put up or shut up.

Explain how the NOAA photos showing a trail of destruction leading from the north tower into WTC 7 are wrong.

Tell me, why are you even here, and most importantly, why are you even discussing this with me?

You are misleading people with your poorly thought out stories and it is getting old. You sound like a broken record when it comes to 911. Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda are evil but to accept the OS one would have to be totally ignorant of the simplist ideas of physics and lacking the most elementary concepts of logic.

LISTEN TO JENNINGS..
www.youtube.com...

It's obvious you have nothing to add to the discussion but flame bait,

and it's likewise obvious you've become so religiously fanatic over these conspiracies that when someone attacks your conspiracy stories, you can't see it as anything but as a personal attack against yourself.

When you actually demand me to provide proof that news crews would train their cameras on the windows where fires can be seen, than it's blatantly obvious there isn't anything I or colonel sanders could ever tell you that will make you give up your conspiracy stories.

No offense intended, dude, but do you REALLY think you're putting a positive face on the truther movement with such antics?

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Regardless, to even be able to have access to the crash site it means the photographer had connections to the gov't in some way, so I guarantee you'd declare it invalid on those grounds alone. Am I wrong?