TV Series FRINGE - Episode Discussion Thread

reply to post by dariousg

Maybe we can do a weekly debate on each show as they air. Looking forward to it.


Now that would be interesting. And I quite agree with you, Just as 24 and numerous other top rated shows frequent AboveTopSecret.Com for plot ideas, etc., I can assure you that it would not surprise me a bit if future shows of Fringe would seem all too familiar to the ATS Family.

Dave

reply to post by Dave Rabbit


Yah, I expect to see the "encounter with a fishman" episode.



I missed the first half hour so unfortunately I missed the melting skin bit, and I really didn't like seeing Dawson's Creek boy, but I will definitely watch another episode. I give it a solid . For now anyway.

I watched Fringe with much anticipation, and I was somewhat disappointed. However, that being said, I see potential for the show, if the writeres are given a chance, something I doubt will happen, due to the propensity of the networks to cancel a show after 2 to 4 weeks if it doesn't knock the socks off of everyone who watches. The programs are given little time to develop plot lines and characters.
X-Files is a good example of the way a show should be handled. I stumbled onto it quite by accident the night the pilot was shown. I saw the potential, and even though I was afraid it would be canceled, I determined to stick with it as long as it was on.
Programers don't realize that viewing habits have changed, with the advent of the internet and TIVO, and his is causing a lot of good shows to be canceled. (Jericho comes to mind. Great show, but followed by people on the internet and on TIVO. The Hollywood types don't get it. Here in Middle America, we work for a living, and our hours are pretty weird.)
Here's Hoping.

reply to post by kettlebellysmith


Wasn't the x-files cancelled because David Duchovney couldn't be pulled away from his internet porn sessions?

I hope the writers realize that presenting fantastical stuff in a more than believable way is a recipe for disaster. At least research some of this before just putting any old crazy plot out there and hoping there is enough explosions and gore to hold half the audiences attention for 47 minutes.

Originally posted by TH3ON3
reply to post by Dave Rabbit

 

Granted dave, but can't they at least give it a possibly valid scenario instead of treating us to fare only a grade school kid could ever believe.

I mean it might have been believable if maybe it (the chemical) was tied into something they recovered from say a crashed UFO. But to tie it in with what we as intelligent people know of how chemical agents work and expect us to believe that is ludricrous to say the least.

Take ironman, it made millions, but I walked out of the theatre within the first half hour. They expect me to believe that a genius guy built a mega-joule power unit from some things he threw together from salvaged parts while being held captive in a cave.

Why couldn't they have used a possible scenario like again a highly advanced power supply found in a crashed UFO? Now I know many don't believe in UFOs, but at least it has ome credibility for being something derived from the unknown.

Get your act together you hollywood doofuses.

Its a TV showt intended for entertainment purposes. It does not claim to be based on scientific fact. If you want that, stop watching FICTIONAL tv shows. I for one found it entertaining. Not that I believed any of it but it was interesting when they talked about that plane that flew over indonesia letting out a high pitched scream and a tsunami followed. Show was pretty good. Think it has a bright future. As for you walking out of Iron Man. You do realize it is based on a comic book character. Did you walk out of superman and spiderman too. What did you expect from a Marvel Comic.

Originally posted by tide88


Its a TV showt intended for entertainment purposes. It does not claim to be based on scientific fact. If you want that, stop watching FICTIONAL tv shows. I for one found it entertaining. Not that I believed any of it but it was interesting when they talked about that plane that flew over indonesia letting out a high pitched scream and a tsunami followed. Show was pretty good. Think it has a bright future. As for you walking out of Iron Man. You do realize it is based on a comic book character. Did you walk out of superman and spiderman too. What did you expect from a Marvel Comic.

No you (refrain from calling names) I didn't walk out of superman because that is believable in the context it is presented. It is meant as a fantastic story, and has to do with alternate suns and him being from another planet you (bite my tongue). And in the original Ironman, didn't he find a suit that was made by aliens or am I thinking about another superhero.

But you prove my point, the mass brainwashing of individuals has nearly been completed, and I feel sorry for the USA when I think of just how far we have fallen in IQ quotient.

yeah, that all we need is more media brainwashing instead of the truth!!!!

screw Fringe and research "sacred geometry"

that should freak you out if you can understand it!

ATS is LOADED full of trolls now, eh??

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
yeah, that all we need is more media brainwashing instead of the truth!!!!

screw Fringe and research "sacred geometry"

that should freak you out if you can understand it!

ATS is LOADED full of trolls now, eh??

Bravo...one of the few enlightened that understand what is going on within the entertainment industry.

Personally, I rather enjoyed the show. I was hooked on the X-Files and 24 and neither of them were very believable. On that note, I didn't see anyone mention what "The Pattern" might be?

Maybe all those people that went missing in 1998 (I think that was the year the show mentioned) were brain-washed or something to help carry out Mr. Multi-Millionaire Technology Man's plans? Seeing as how he used to work with the mad scientist (I'm sorry, I just can't for the life of me remember the character's names) perhaps he got rich by framing him and stealing his fanatical ideas?

I watched an interview on TV Guide I believe where the writers and Abrams were saying they weren't quite sure whether they wanted it to be some kind of natural pattern or a grand scheme of someone...I'd love to hear what other people think about this, it seems this Pattern is going to be the underlying main theme of the season...

They are probably taking show ideas directly from this site.

I worked on the 1st season of "Alias" J.J's first primetime show. Met him several times and went to the wrap party at Chateu Marmont in Hollywood CA. He's a great guy, and he sure has come a long way since those days.

Originally posted by iiinvision
there is a discussion going on about Fringe here

Sure there is! That thread is mine . I love my threads! However, let's share the love of this show and talk about it in both of these threads.

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Originally posted by Dave Rabbit
Now that would be interesting. And I quite agree with you, Just as 24 and numerous other top rated shows frequent AboveTopSecret.Com for plot ideas, etc., I can assure you that it would not surprise me a bit if future shows of Fringe would seem all too familiar to the ATS Family.

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Is this confirmed or mere speculation?

EDIT 2:

I'm OK with there being two 'Fringe' threads, as long as mine gets mentioned on the ATS MIX show . Now that would be something ( and Massive Dynamic, ).




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Originally posted by StefanO
I worked on the 1st season of "Alias" J.J's first primetime show. Met him several times and went to the wrap party at Chateu Marmont in Hollywood CA. He's a great guy, and he sure has come a long way since those days.

Then please StefanO tell him that when he portrays a story that is based in reality, it should be believable as such. This is the huge mistake Hollywood has made for the past decade, movies based in reality real time with unbelievable scenes. Now excuse me while I plug in to my dead uncle, he has something he wants to tell me.

reply to post by they see ALL

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Is this confirmed or mere speculation?


Trust me Baby Puppy..... it is NOT speculation, although I am not at liberty to divulge anything further. Let me simply say this..... if you are an avid fan of most of the shows like X-Files, 24 and now Fringe, just to name a few, and you have listened to some of the highly respected guests we have had on the ATS MIX Shows in the scientific community..... the coincidence factor is astronomical. Regardless, it is the Intelligent Community here that is the heartbeat that is being followed..... and for that.....

Isnt there like, someway of proving that they(Fringe) are taking ideas from this site. Not so that the site can profit, but so they can at-least, mention ATS in in the rolling credits at the end. It would be pretty cool.

Also, when is this expected to hit the UK, no doubt it will be on Sky1 or FX in the future

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reply to post by monkeybus


I wouldn't hold your breath on anyone giving our intelligent community CREDIT for their show ideas publicly.

Ah wouldn't it be nice to see the day when society views conspiracy theorists not as 'wackos' but as integral, valuable parts of the discovery of the thing that matters most, the truth.

Well, I have to say I was anticipating the new series, after hearing all of the hype.

But its credibility began to go downhill very quickly in the first act. I guess I know too much about airplanes....the whole 'autolanding' bit was poppycock. Yes, airplanes can autoland, but a human still must be present to put flaps and gear down, select the autobrake settings, tune the ILS, etc. AND, the airplane was parked right near the terminal - should have been stopped on the centerline of the runway (sigh).

AND, it was snowing...somebody would have to turn on the engine and airframe anti-icing ...

Having said that, the final twenty minutes, or so, may have redeemed it...and the teaser montage did look like a sampling of some ATS stuff.

I'll give it a few more shots. Though, that prosthetic arm on the creepy woman sure reminded me of Terminator.

Originally posted by StefanO
I worked on the 1st season of "Alias" J.J's first primetime show. Met him several times and went to the wrap party at Chateu Marmont in Hollywood CA. He's a great guy, and he sure has come a long way since those days.

Didn't he do that series "Felicity" first. Also Like Alias, and Lost - JJ Abram's seems to lose the plot by the second or third season and starts to go for ratings.
A good example of doing a limited run for a show is " The Flight of the Concords" the guys are looking at only 2 seasons. leave it on a high to be remeber as a great show

Originally posted by TH3ON3


I really wish the mainstream movie producers would stop putting out unbelievable movies and television series. Fringe was a big disappointment because I know we don't have any chemical agent that can dissolve human flesh that fast with such a small quantity administered.

Do they think we are all retards or something, and that because it has numerous flashes and explosions we will overlook the absurdity of the science. Just more of the same old crap that plays down to most of us.

Since you are posting as a skeptic, I will try to direct my answer with fact that can be researched. I think people tend to forget that the pharmaceutical and defense communities are in a cooperative effort to develop biological and chemical weapons that have swift effects.
So lets say, for example, they take necrotizing fasciitis commonly known as the flesh eating disease which is fatal in about 12 to 24 hours and engineer it to progress at a accelerated rate. Would that not have about the same effect? Remember that we now have the ability to tinker on the nano level and crossbreed DNA taking the best or worst traits of any bacteria, germ or plague and combine them.
From watching the first episode, I think that the series could be a hit and shed some light on topics discussed here if presented within reason. I look forward to future episodes.

Necrotizing Fascitis

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