CERN: Final Accomplishment of the great 7 days burned star & Monster announced by Nostradamus, page 1
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Topic started on 9-9-2008 @ 07:54 PM by The angel of light

From Quatrains of Michel of Nostradamus:

Centurie III Q 34

When the eclipse of the Sun will then be,
The monster will be seen in full day:
Quite otherwise will one interpret it,
High price unguarded: none will have foreseen it .

C2:Q41

The great star will burn for seven days,
The cloud will cause two suns to appear :
The big mastiff will howl all night
When the great pontiff will change country.

CENTURY 10 - 74

THE GAMES OF SLAUGHTER

The year of the great seventh number accomplished,
it will appear at the time of the games of slaughter,
not far from the age of the great millennium ,
when the dead will come out of their graves.



The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,

Dear Readers,

Once again tomorrow the Humanity will try to defy its own limitations with a so dared experiment that can produce any kind of unpredictable results, even the most sinister and dantesque that somebody could imagine.

If the Bible is correct and there was an original sin comited by the first humans when they dared to think that they could "eat" of the fruit of the Science and knowledge of the good and Evil, tomorrow would be its worst reincidence since the begining of the Civilization.

The CERN experiment is not only a so dared science experiment but also a great step to the unknown, to the most misterious forces of the nature that the man ever has known.

There is a great debate about the risks of this so expensive technological essay, many scientists remain skeptical of the appearant security on it, that micro black holes created during it can be out of control and produce catastrophic results.

But was this moment previewed by somebody in the past?

lets observe what the also scientist, the French physician Michel of Nostradamus told about it:

- It would happen after a year strongly connected with the number 7 ( 2007)

- In a year in which special and sacred games, in other words with a very long tradition, would occur, a little after a milenium celebration: the Olimpic games of Beijing 2008.

- a little after a great an unusual Earthquake, think in the so powerful of the so unusual 8.0 richter scale in China on May.

- a year also of an important total solar eclipse, like the one visible in Siberia and Russia few months ago.

So are we going to see a so powerful nuclear explosion, shining like a second star rising in the sky that Nostradamus predicted?

Are we going to listen the tremendous deafening roar like a so long hawl for an entire night?

Or

Will we affront, face to face, the terrible aspect of one of the most powerful and uncontroled forces never known and released for the human Science in the whole History, like the great Monster that Nostradamus anounced it would appear in full day?

Tomorrow will bring the answers of all this doubts and questions, and probably another great lesson for the humanity, and for the scientists that like to play the role of God.

Let's pray that the prize that we pay for this temerary experiment will not be several times higher than the one the technology inversed on it costs, or in the own words of Nostradamus the High price unguarded and that none will have foreseen it .

Let's pray also that the chain of events that this essay will release don't produce in the face of our planet another horrible scar like the ones of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, also resulted of Scientific & Technologic "experiments".

Let's pray that God will see this experiment with mercy since who can be so dared to try to see in the mysteries of the creation of the cosmos without his permision and don't pay the consequences.

Finally Let's pray that the Creator will see from the great bejond that this is a moreover a sin of Ignorance and product of our own weakness with respect to evil, and that he will judge this act as a Father.

I am afraid that one of the seven seals seen by St John will be open by this "Experiment", let's pray that one the seven trumpets of Apocalysis will not sound after it.

Thanks for your attention,

Your friend,

The Angel of lightness




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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 02:11 PM by The angel of light
reply to post by projectvxn


The Peace of God to all that belong to the light,
Dear Readers,

Let me respond in only one reply the different comments about this thread:

- No body is saying here that Science is bad, but that it is field in which, like any other human activity, there is always the possibility to think in a possitive and constructive manner or in a destructive and negative one.

- Examples of this duality are many, we have in the possitive side the Peniciline, the vaccines, the agriculture revolution, the computers but in the negative side we have the atomic bomb, the Hidrogen bomb, the Neutrons bomb, the biological weapons and so on.

- So Science is something important but it is not a replacement of God, since if there is no ethics or morality in Science it can destroy us and our world in a so effective manner than it can save it if we use it in an ethical way, so we are talking about a tool that has to edges.

- No body has said here that today there will be the End of world, but if something does not run well with such a dared experiment it could be the begining of a terrible Trouble for all of us, an agony of about 5 years or so that would take for the colapse of the planet.

- If a micro black hole started to grow and grow without control in about few years it can suck the entire planet, that is not science fiction but a very real possibility, and that would depend on any miscalculation done in this project.

- The worst part of all this business is that we are not going to know the consequences of this experiment today or the next week but only through a carefully monitoring of the earth behavior in the following months.

- Now, For the ones that like a lot to refer the religious values as the ones that ruled the humanity during the "dark" Medieval years, let me tell that if it wouldn't have been thanks to the pacient preservation and translation work done by the Catholic and Orthodox Churches, Monasteries and abbeys in the west and thanks to the Islamic Universities in the East probably we have lost at least 3000 years of cultural inheritance of the ancient civilizations.

- So Modern Science and Technology have a lot to thanks to the work of religious people of the past that believed that it was important to conserve the culture of ancient Greece, Rome, Mesopotamia, Egypt. Why this happend? because those men believed in the human spirit, and all of them had tremendous respect for wisdom.

- Concerning the Science of other civilizations let me tell too that it was curiously the work of many ancient spiritual philosophers of China and India, like Lao tse, Kong Fu Tse, Sidharta Gautama Buda, the one that created the necessary spiritual conditions for the birth of many academic disciplines.

So in resume this thread has nothing to do with Science phobia as well as nothing to do with Religion phobia is just only a reflextion about if the man of our epoch is prepared to know things that are so delicate and dangerous if they are bad used.

In 1944 the world was in other crucial point of the Science advance when the atomic energy was first time released, and what was the first use that the humanity did of it? it was not to produce cheap electricity but to destroy in seconds two so populated cities of a country that was unable to defend of such attack.

Thanks for your attention,

Your friend,

The Angel of Lightness



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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 02:28 PM by The angel of light
reply to post by Essan .....Nostradamus predicted the world would end in 1998 ......


I am so sorry to contradict you, but what is the source that you use to study Nostradamus? He actually didnt predict the end of our world for some epoch, but from since his predictions will go on for thousands of years, out to the year 3797, many of his interpreters think that would be his end of world.

But let me clarify to you that even in that last prediction he clearly stated that the humanity will continue living in other worlds, so that will not be the end of the human linage.

You can know more about this at:
www.allaboutpopularissues.org...

As far as I know there was not mention of 1998 at all in any quatrain, only of 1999 as the begining of the terror epoch, and actually that was the time in which many of the protagonists of the so difficult moment we are living at present, plenty of violence and conflicts, were arriving to the power:

- Vladimir Putin is chosen by Boris Yeltsin as his successor in Russia.
- George W. Bush arrived to the power in a so controversial election in America.
- Hugo Chavez won the referendum in his country that founded the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela.
- The Taliban rule became more radical when decided to destroy many ancient buddist & Zoroastrian temples in Afghanistan.

I would suggest you to consult more deeply this topic in good sources.

thanks,

your friend,

The Angel of Lightness



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reply posted on 10-9-2008 @ 02:46 PM by The angel of light
reply to post by Anonymous ATS ....... I personally as a christian would not so quick to trust and quote nostrodamus because he used divination to have his visions


The idea that anything that is related with future prediction is fruit of divination and not the result of the gifts of the spirit, as it was in all the ancient prophets of the Bible, is part of the dark side of many of our religiuos leaders that want to use Religion as source of Power, a way to control the lives of thousands through intimidation and fear.

Michel de Nostradomus was a Frenchman and a good Catholic, so a Christian person, who strongly believed that his power to foretell events of the future was derived from a Divine source

You can read more about this at:
www.angelicinspirations.com...


It is precisely that dark side of the Religion the one that has discredited Christianism among many Scientists, although this bad attitude is not only present in this particular religion.

I can say that this the consequence of fundamentalism in any Religion, let me recall a very famous example of this situation:

There is an agreement between the majority of Historians that the Caliphate of Cordoba in Spain was probably one of the most progressist kingdoms that ever existed in all the academic disciplines, this includes philosophy, science, art, and technology.

However it is also quite true that the destruction of the famous great Alexandria Library was done by an islamic General that justified his decission with this comment:

If the wisdom contained in the books of this library is also part of the Koran we can destroy them without problem, but if they represent a knowledge that is not in the Koran we must destroy them since they are heretic; So anyway let us destroy them!

Thanks for your attention,

your friend,

The Angel of lightness



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reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 01:21 AM by projectvxn
reply to post by The angel of light


Ok, This entire post is based on the idea that I have replaced god in my heart with science, and the truth is I am quite familiar with both. It is superstition and ignorance (Of one's own faith as much as that of what science is and is not capable of at present state). It is also an ignorance of ones' faith(I assume you may be Christian by the representation of Christian art on your avatar). There is a plan in Revelation remember? Haven't met all the requirements yet.

Though man may seem to be playing god, they are still playing by that plan of God right? Don't worry, man is wiser than we give credit for, and much of that fear is due to our collective ignorance of what science knows and doesn't know, hand in hand with what god knows, and the arrogance that we could tell god what is and isn't his will.

Either way, I'd rather die in the pursuit of knowledge than the pursuit of greed...Seems to be alot of that these days...But I digress.




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reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 01:41 AM by space cadet
reply to post by projectvxn


I would just like to say to all of you who are saying that the Cern LHC went off and nothing happened, what took place on the 10th was nothing but a test. They pushed protons through going in separate directions but did not smash them, and I see no date posted on Cern to say when that event , which is the one I am concerned about, will take place.


reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 01:58 AM by projectvxn
I'm not saying that nothing will happen when atoms are inevitably smashed. I'm actually counting on alot happening. I'll just say I have some research waiting some confirmation and reformation depending on the data that the LHC will produce. Alot will happen. But not something catastrophic. Cosmic rays hit Earth with far more intensity than the LHC could produce:

Energy produced by LHC, measured in TeV
The protons are made up of quarks and gluons. Gluons are the particles that transmit the forces between the quarks ("gluing" them together). On average, each quark carries only about 10% of the proton energy, and each gluon even less.


www-lip.fis.uc.pt...

Average energy of Cosmic Rays measured of GeV
Cosmic Ray Energies and Acceleration: The energy of cosmic rays is usually measured in units of MeV, for mega-electron volts, or GeV, for giga-electron volts. (One electron volt is the energy gained when an electron is accelerated through a potential difference of 1 volt). Most galactic cosmic rays have energies between 100 MeV (corresponding to a velocity for protons of 43% of the speed of light) and 10 GeV (corresponding to 99.6% of the speed of light). The number of cosmic rays with energies beyond 1 GeV decreases by about a factor of 50 for every factor of 10 increase in energy. Over a wide energy range the number of particles per m2 per steradian per second with energy greater than E (measured in GeV) is given approximately by N(>E) = k(E + 1)-a, where k ~ 5000 per m2 per steradian per second and a ~1.6. The highest energy cosmic rays measured to date have had more than 1020 eV, equivalent to the kinetic energy of a baseball traveling at approximately 100 mph! It is believed that most galactic cosmic rays derive their energy from supernova explosions, which occur approximately once every 50 years in our Galaxy. To maintain the observed intensity of cosmic rays over millions of years requires that a few percent of the more than 1051 ergs released in a typical supernova explosion be converted to cosmic rays. There is considerable evidence that cosmic rays are accelerated as the shock waves from these explosions travel through the surrounding interstellar gas. The energy contributed to the Galaxy by cosmic rays (about 1 eV per cm3) is about equal to that contained in galactic magnetic fields, and in the thermal energy of the gas that pervades the space between the stars.


www.srl.caltech.edu...

In other words the cosmic rays that HIT EARTH every day all the time since the beginning of Earth have not caused a bit of what people have been lead to believe the LHC can cause, and none of it adds up at all. The Cosmic rays that hit Earth on a regular basis are thousands of times stronger than any reaction the LHC could possibly produce.

In other words, Nostradamus was not talking about the LHC.

Edit to add:

This is the kinda crap that happens when ignorant paranoia is allowed to supersede facts.

www.abovetopsecret.com...








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reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 11:56 AM by The angel of light
reply to post by projectvxn


Let me express respectfully some doubts about the points you have shown here, and please believe me that I am doing a tremendous personal effort to try to be confident in all the good will behind the CERN project:


- If the physical reactions that CERN scientists are doing in their undeground laboratory on the Swiss alps are of the same nature of the ones that occur in the outer space why it was so important to do that in that site?

- We are living in the space era, where there are any kind of spacecrafts orbiting our planet since 50 years ago, so what could be the obstacle to do this same experiments in the space far away from our planet?

- If this same reactions happen expontaneously almost every day in the Cosmos there is no reasonable need to do this through artificial means, is just a question to send some orbiting observatory or robot spacecraft that observe and collect the data in a place in which that occur naturally.

- But let me insist if this must be done inside any so hidden place, for some strange reason that I feel is bejond your explanations, why this cannot be done in the Moon or in Mars or Venus or in some asteroid of the thousands are in our solar system?

- I think sincerely the explanation of all these visible contradictions is that there is possibly something top secret on this experiments, something that is not very Christian and certainly not very inofensive that justifies all this impressive infrastructure in that kind of bunker in a so inaccesible place of our planet. ( Any similarity with the eagle nest project of some pathetic dictator of the XX century in that same region is mere coincidence.)

I think the scientists and sponsors of CERN are understimating so much the intelligence of the public opinion, when they try to convince us that this is something motivated merely by sane scientific curiousity.

It is clear that there si pretty much than curiosity here but probably very important political interests, and if there is politics involved there is a so high probability that this can have potential military applications, don't you think so?.

thanks,

your friend,

The Angel of Lightness



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reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 01:28 PM by projectvxn
I think you may have misunderstood what I was saying. The Cosmic Rays that happen naturally hit the Earth with FAR GREATER ENERGY than the LHC could possibly produce.

If a beam of protons were to be misfired it would burrow into rock several hundred feet and then the LHC would power off. There is no one nearby to get hurt. The reactions created in the LHC due to the smashing of protons will never make it passed a certain level of energy output. This pretty much guarantees that, even at full power, the LHC would not produce the energy needed to create quantum black holes(Even though there is no evidence of proof that such black holes can even exist).

The fact is, the fear behind the LHC is just another doomsday fetish scare.

I am certain that the technologies they will create using the results of the LHC will probably be used for energy generation, and henceforth will be used in military applications, yes. We don't know what we'll get exactly, but we have a pretty good idea. And yes there are political issues involved and yes I can pretty much guarantee that Top Secret experiments will be conducted. But it is depressing to me when a girl in India kills herself because she thinks the world is going to end because someone made it sound like a credible grievance.

Edit to add:

Knowing what it takes to get people and equipment to the ISS alone, getting something like the $10 billion LHC to the moon or Mars or an asteroid to satisfy unfounded fears would be more expensive than the amount of money we have on this planet. It just isn't doable.

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