reply to post by MatrixProphet
Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths. I have minor biblical scholar and scriptural skills. Also I am not a scientific/legal
or medical expert in any field. Beware of my Contagious Memes! & watch out that you don't get cut on my Occams razor.All of this is my personal
conjecture and should not be considered the absolute or most definitive state of things as they really are. Use this information at your own risk! I
accept no liability if your ideology comes crashing down around you with accompanying consequences!
Explanation: Gazrok speaks with the Authority of YHVH and Moses through the Torah at these following scriptures...
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall
ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt
not add thereto, nor diminish from it.
So Basically AT FACE VALUE these two scriptures clearly state Don't be adding or taking away from GODS SPECIFIC LAWS! i.e. No CODES! therefor NO
Kabalah or Judaic Oral Law type of interpretations ect!
Deut 18:9-13 (shown below)
Deu 18:9 When thou art come into the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee, thou shalt not learn to do after the abominations of those nations.
Deu 18:10 There shall not be found among you [any one] that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, [or] that useth
, [or] an observer of times
, or an enchanter
, or a witch
Deu 18:11 Or a charmer
, or a consulter with familiar spirits
, or a wizard
, or a necromancer
Deu 18:12 For all that do these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out
from before thee.
Deu 18:13 Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God.
So basically at FACE VALUE this scripture goes straight to all who would use such CODES?KNOWLEDGE/SPELLS/RITUALS/SIGILS ect at all, are and I quote
the Torah directly again "these things [are] an abomination unto the LORD" (Deut 18:12). So no ambiguity there as far as YHVH is concerned. If You
do any of this "abomination" and think you are still sinless in the eyes of YHVH, then I am sure he will correct you when it pleases him.
And finally if you claim you are a prophet of YHVH and because of such status that you can interpret the WORD/LAW of GOD as you see fit then please
let me bring your attention to...
Deu 13:1 If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder,
Deu 13:2 And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let
us serve them;
Deu 13:3 Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love
the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul.
Deu 13:4 Ye shall walk after the LORD your God, and fear him, and keep his commandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve him, and cleave unto
Deu 13:5 And that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams, shall be put to death; because he hath spoken to turn [you] away from the LORD your God, which
brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the house of bondage, to thrust thee out of the way which the LORD thy God commanded
thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the evil away from the midst of thee.
Deu 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which [is] as thine own soul,
entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
Deu 13:7 [Namely], of the gods of the people which [are] round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the [one] end of the earth even
unto the [other] end of the earth;
Deu 13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou
Deu 13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Deu 13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out
of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
Deu 13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
So at FACE VALUE these scriptures basically allow the prophet/interpreter to be vetted and if found wanting then allows the investigator to take
personal action and perform the death penalty upon the culprit!!! Will the OP agree to these A PRIORI biblical position conditions?
If not then
Personal Disclosure: If you are going to believe A PRIORI that YHVH is GOD (Ex0
) and Moses wrote his Book of Law (Deut 31:9
and that YHVH's Book of Law is infallible religious canon (Pure given by reason of CHOICE based on personal assessment and SUBJECTIVE valuation See
] of YHVH,Moses and the Bible), and then go and throw that all out the window in search of
things that 1) don't exist (i.e. NO hidden codes or knowledge! Its all up front and at face value thanks very much!) and 2) are specifically
forbidden practices,on the basis that there just might be something hidden there, then can you really be Denying ignorance or would you be promoting
it. This is known as the The Forer Effect
and it means to see patterns where there are NONE!.
None are so blind as they who will not see! :shk: