World wants Obama as president: poll

reply to post by centurion1211

"So, I hope the rest of the world understands when I (respectfully) tell them to buzz off with respect to our elections.
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Take it from me, nobody is interested in America's election. We're fed up to the back teeth in hearing about it. Who cares? Nothing is going to change! Its the fact that you Americans, or at least a fair percentage of you, think that because your country is electing a new leader the rest of the world should, for some unknown reason, stand up and take notice.
Seriously, if I read one more thread about Palins views on homosexuality or her secret lover, McCains war records or Obama's muslim roots I think I'll declare war on the USA myself!!!

reply to post by Mintwithahole.


so true. its just another 'look at me' ploy.

and re the post 'australia wants to invade america'...mate, we have 24 million ppl and you have 240 million... do your math.

by the way...Vote Obama

Originally posted by Sublime620
reply to post by feydrautha

 

But anyway, this poll did not include "Americas enemies". Well, unless you consider the rest of the world to be Americas enemies.

Africa is our enemy? Europe is our enemy? India is our enemy? South America is our enemy?

I wasn't aware of that. We're pretty much screwed when you add Iran, China, and North Korea onto that list.

the statement was not meant to be taken collectively...

1) on one hand, we have islamic extremists and other anti-america adversaries who would prefer that obama win this one, and who all seem to prefer the agenda that the democrats represent, a brief sampling:

Hamas endorses Obama

Obama offers change Kim Jong-Il can believe in

Communist Party of the USA endorses Obama

Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age:
The man who said white people deserve -- and want -- to have their ears and noses cut off, and that Muslims shouldn't worry, "because God wants you to do it."

How the Islamic world views Obama:
One of the Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation.

Obama Muslim Advisor linked to Hamas, CAIR

In Michigan, Obama Meets Privately with Yet Another Hezbollah Agent; But Publicly Excludes Muslims @ Rally

dont bother with the link to the newspaper, the article has been conveniently removed

mccain enjoys no such adoration from our enemies, and yes, extreme islam and communism are enemies to the states.


2) and on the other hand we have foreign countries (who seemed to have dropped the ball on becoming a world leader like the comparatively very young united states has) who would like to see the states become more like themselves...

these alone are just a few reasons i pointed out as to why i would not vote for obama...

like all my posts, this post is on topic, entirely civil and relevant sources cited.

i suspect those with an opposing view could still make the case for this being a 'political trolling' post.

they would be wrong of course, but i understand its easier to simply appease the offended by killing the messenger.

Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by Quantum_Squirrel

 

the rest of the world does not rampage across the planet as you do , pause for thought eh?

Is that what you call defending democracy and the free world, or were Bin Laden and Sadam freedom-loving heroes of yours? I wonder if you'll feel that way when Russia starts moving troops into Europe? Russia is watching the response to the Georgian situation, and has already set its' eyes on the Ukraine. Can Europe be far behind?

get your facts right dude, although i live in the U.K i am aware of how this conflict occured , each case should be taken on individual merit and in these circumstances the georgians attacked SO first , or does your western media report something different i know mine does.

Originally posted by loam
Am I the only one who finds irony in a poll about an American presidential election conducted in nations where democracy does not exist?

I pledge allegiance to the Flag
of the United States of America,
and to the Republic for which it stands:
one Nation under God, indivisible,
With Liberty and Justice for all.

Your not alone when people think America is a democracy, but rather, she is a Republic, which uses democracy to elect officials.

But much like this election, the popular vote to date has McCain leading by a point, yet decidedly behind in electoral college votes.

When you swear an oath for service in this great nation, you swear an oath to uphold the constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic.

The Republic stands, no matter what you vote.

Peace

reply to post by enlighten2012


lol too true

I wish the media would leave their elections alone,or failing that have it at the end of the news in a VERY small section.It seems to me there bigging up brand America,and almost brainwashing the masses that they are the worlds goverment!

The two party vote is an illusion,as it is in most countries.The public think they have a say in how their country is run but in reality they have not!

We are just cattle to be taxed to pay the super rich who are above the law

Americans are so gullible in my opinion. First the Bush crime family creates all this fear in you of terrorism, then his pal McCain comes in and designs his entire campaign around how he wont "back down from a fight" and so on.

Its exactly the same style that Bush has used. If you want more of the same, your country will continue along the same path.

Of course the world wants Obama. Its not because they are socialists, its because they dont want conflicts and wars around the world for no reason. So much pain and misery could be avoided if the US would pick a leader that knew how to communicate with the world without weapons and threats.

The terrorism threat is not new. Whats new is that politicians is now using peoples fear of it to win elections. They create the problem and then solve it. Its smart, and people are falling for it.

Its also very sinister.


[edit on 13-9-2008 by Copernicus]

The people of the world, represented by 22,000 very carefully selected people around the world? Yeah, right and if you believe that wasn't a "stacked" poll, I have some bridges in Brooklyn that atre for sale cheap. Cash onl;y!

Then there is the little matter of the fact that the opinion of "the people of the world" is absolutely meaningless.

They have no say in who the Citizens of the UNited States of America elect as their President.

Who gives a damn what the French, Germans, etc. think? They are appeasers, they cringe at the very thought of defending anything, and they would willingly offer their daughters up to Russian troops to rape, if they just didn't bother their homes.

Keep in mind that the people that despise the Americans the most are the French. A country that willingly supported the Nazi's, went out of its way to search out and turn over it's Jews so they could go to the death camps, and even operated their own concentration camps.

The Germans are so comfortable that they would literally do anything to avoid war, including let themselves become a province of Russia.

Screw "world opinion".

Copernicus, and his ilk, have the real answer to terrorism.

Give in to it, just as the Spanish did.

Don't ever offend anyone by thinking, or writing, or even through a political cartoon. Let the terrorists of this world have their way.

And before too many more years go by, all of those appeasers will be facing Mecca five times a day, and chanting out their ritual prayers.

There are many on here that say "screw the rest of the world," and we do, and then we wonder why the rest of the world is not crazy about us.

The acceptance of Obama and the willingness of those in other countries to work with him speaks volumes about his ability to lead and his skill in foreign relations.

This poll should be another reason to vote for him.

I like to think I have my eyes open this election cycle and I am aware of Obamas' popularity with other nations. In the end it is my personal choice, but I am not so arrogant as to believe that the world outside of the United States knows nothing.

I will listen, watch and carefully observe all I can. Knowledge is power. So do not dismiss this as nothing, take it as it is and filter it and go from there.

Most of the world dislikes the US these days. Thier wish for Obama as our President is telling. I'm guessing they think he'll bring us down a peg or two.

Originally posted by Sestias
There are many on here that say "screw the rest of the world," and we do, and then we wonder why the rest of the world is not crazy about us.

The acceptance of Obama and the willingness of those in other countries to work with him speaks volumes about his ability to lead and his skill in foreign relations.

This poll should be another reason to vote for him.

I'm glad that these words are coming from a US citizen.

Indeed it's funny that first,so many members here in ATS act like that and then they wonder why people hate em but oh well.

Anyway,i thought to justify what i've said in a previous post of mine in this thread.
I said that allthough i still like Obama i've changed my mind and i wish for McCain to win the elections.I only do so because since most of people here think like....how they are thinking i guess McCain is what they deserve after all.
If i was about to vote one of them i'd definatelly vote for Obama though.


Always my humble opinion offcourse...

Since most of Europe gets its LPNG from Russia and Russia is with-in a stones throw of accessing the LPNG pipelines coming from the middle east via Georgia and Turkey.

Who is Europe gonna call on when Putin and Russia restart the ole Russian Empire and start expanding????

History has a tendency to repeat itself.

So before you bite the hand that basically provides a majority of your national security, I would suggest you re-think about wanting a weak US leader (Obama) on foreign affairs.

After all, Obama says that we should follow in the footsteps of China with regards to their domestic infrastructure. Furthermore he first stated that both Russia and Georgia should relax and stop all agressions after Russia invaded Georgia sovreign territory.

If we elect Obama, we just might decide to sit the next one out and let Russia and China fight over Europe.

This thread is possibly the best example of how ethnocentric this country really is. I knew it was bad... but I didn't know it was so bad that they decided the rest of the world's opinion is uneducated or biased.

Perhaps it would help more if people got of their house and possibly learned about or visited other countries. But I'm just a dreamer.

Of course the world wants Obama, people in other countries are effected by our government and our politics. When America moves, the whole world moves with it. I don't think the world wants to elect another Bush, and I can understand why. It effects their lives as well, and we might invade their own countries. When the dollar moves up or down, if oil does, if our economy sucks, it all effects others. People really believe in Obama like they believed in Kennedy, experience is not important. You could have all the experience in the world but not do a darn thing for the world. You can have no experience and be a natural at what your doing. I feel Obama can do it, and he's young and he will handle this country like a newborn.

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The US, like any other nation only acts in its own national interest. If taking an action that benefits other nations is done it is only done to further the interests of the US. The POTUS has zero responsibillity to the rest of the world. There is no one world government and there won't be in our lifetimes. Further, for a POTUS to act in another country's national interest that is detrimental to the US national interests would be tantamount to treason and impeachment would be in order. Bush's actions in Iraq are tied to the interests of the US for example and the rest of the worlds opinion means nothing because the world's opiinion, as it is today, is in direct conflict with the national interests of the US.

In conclusion, for the rest of the world to think Obama would somehow champion their national interests over that of the US is preposterous at best. Their opinion is misguided and thankfully has no weight in the election other than causing americans to fear a vote for Obama is a vote for the world not them. This ironic twist puts a smile on my face.

reply to post by SectionEight

This thread is possibly the best example of how ethnocentric this country really is.

Case in point.

[edit on 14-9-2008 by Sublime620]

reply to post by Sublime620


Your quote in response to my post is not related to anything I posted in the least bit. All nations act in their own national interest, historical fact. To label it as ethnocentric in a dismissive way ignores history. For the rest of the world to sit in judgement of the US is in itself ethnocentric, even though it is a futile gesture with no weight.