World wants Obama as president: poll, page 6
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reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 01:23 PM by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by centurion1211


"So, I hope the rest of the world understands when I (respectfully) tell them to buzz off with respect to our elections.
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Take it from me, nobody is interested in America's election. We're fed up to the back teeth in hearing about it. Who cares? Nothing is going to change! Its the fact that you Americans, or at least a fair percentage of you, think that because your country is electing a new leader the rest of the world should, for some unknown reason, stand up and take notice.
Seriously, if I read one more thread about Palins views on homosexuality or her secret lover, McCains war records or Obama's muslim roots I think I'll declare war on the USA myself!!!





reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 06:46 AM by enlighten2012
reply to post by Mintwithahole.



so true. its just another 'look at me' ploy.

and re the post 'australia wants to invade america'...mate, we have 24 million ppl and you have 240 million... do your math.

by the way...Vote Obama



reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 12:27 PM by feydrautha
Originally posted by Sublime620
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post by feydrautha



But anyway, this poll did not include "Americas enemies". Well, unless you consider the rest of the world to be Americas enemies.

Africa is our enemy? Europe is our enemy? India is our enemy? South America is our enemy?

I wasn't aware of that. We're pretty much screwed when you add Iran, China, and North Korea onto that list.


the statement was not meant to be taken collectively...

1) on one hand, we have islamic extremists and other anti-america adversaries who would prefer that obama win this one, and who all seem to prefer the agenda that the democrats represent, a brief sampling:

Hamas endorses Obama

Obama offers change Kim Jong-Il can believe in

Communist Party of the USA endorses Obama

Obama Had Close Ties to Top Saudi Adviser at Early Age:
The man who said white people deserve -- and want -- to have their ears and noses cut off, and that Muslims shouldn't worry, "because God wants you to do it."

How the Islamic world views Obama:
One of the Iranian religious leaders said if Obama will enter the White House, then Islam will conquer the heart of the American nation.

Obama Muslim Advisor linked to Hamas, CAIR

In Michigan, Obama Meets Privately with Yet Another Hezbollah Agent; But Publicly Excludes Muslims @ Rally

dont bother with the link to the newspaper, the article has been conveniently removed

mccain enjoys no such adoration from our enemies, and yes, extreme islam and communism are enemies to the states.


2) and on the other hand we have foreign countries (who seemed to have dropped the ball on becoming a world leader like the comparatively very young united states has) who would like to see the states become more like themselves...

these alone are just a few reasons i pointed out as to why i would not vote for obama...

like all my posts, this post is on topic, entirely civil and relevant sources cited.

i suspect those with an opposing view could still make the case for this being a 'political trolling' post.

they would be wrong of course, but i understand its easier to simply appease the offended by killing the messenger.


reply posted on 12-9-2008 @ 06:42 PM by Quantum_Squirrel
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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the rest of the world does not rampage across the planet as you do , pause for thought eh?


Is that what you call defending democracy and the free world, or were Bin Laden and Sadam freedom-loving heroes of yours? I wonder if you'll feel that way when Russia starts moving troops into Europe? Russia is watching the response to the Georgian situation, and has already set its' eyes on the Ukraine. Can Europe be far behind?


get your facts right dude, although i live in the U.K i am aware of how this conflict occured , each case should be taken on individual merit and in these circumstances the georgians attacked SO first , or does your western media report something different i know mine does.


reply posted on 13-9-2008 @ 02:37 AM by noangels
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lol too true

I wish the media would leave their elections alone,or failing that have it at the end of the news in a VERY small section.It seems to me there bigging up brand America,and almost brainwashing the masses that they are the worlds goverment!

The two party vote is an illusion,as it is in most countries.The public think they have a say in how their country is run but in reality they have not!

We are just cattle to be taxed to pay the super rich who are above the law


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 05:37 PM by SectionEight
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The US, like any other nation only acts in its own national interest. If taking an action that benefits other nations is done it is only done to further the interests of the US. The POTUS has zero responsibillity to the rest of the world. There is no one world government and there won't be in our lifetimes. Further, for a POTUS to act in another country's national interest that is detrimental to the US national interests would be tantamount to treason and impeachment would be in order. Bush's actions in Iraq are tied to the interests of the US for example and the rest of the worlds opinion means nothing because the world's opiinion, as it is today, is in direct conflict with the national interests of the US.

In conclusion, for the rest of the world to think Obama would somehow champion their national interests over that of the US is preposterous at best. Their opinion is misguided and thankfully has no weight in the election other than causing americans to fear a vote for Obama is a vote for the world not them. This ironic twist puts a smile on my face.


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 05:41 PM by Sublime620
reply to post by SectionEight



This thread is possibly the best example of how ethnocentric this country really is.


Case in point.

[edit on 14-9-2008 by Sublime620]


reply posted on 14-9-2008 @ 05:54 PM by SectionEight
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Your quote in response to my post is not related to anything I posted in the least bit. All nations act in their own national interest, historical fact. To label it as ethnocentric in a dismissive way ignores history. For the rest of the world to sit in judgement of the US is in itself ethnocentric, even though it is a futile gesture with no weight.
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