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Topic started on 9-9-2008 @ 04:11 PM by ProfEmeritus
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World wants Obama as president: poll
www.abc.net.au
 US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama may be struggling to nudge ahead of his Republican rival in polls at home, but people across
the world want him in the White House, a BBC poll said.
All 22 countries covered in the poll would prefer to see Senator Obama elected US president ahead of Republican John McCain.
In 17 of the 22 nations, people expect relations between the US and the rest of the world to improve if Senator Obama wins.
More than 22,000 people were questioned by pollster GlobeScan in countries ranging from Australia to India and across Africa, Europe and South
America.
The margin in favour of Senator Obama ranged from 9 per cent in India to 82 per cent in Kenya, while an average of 49 per cent across the 22 countries
preferred Senator Obama compared with 12 per cent preferring Senator McCain. Some four in 10 did not take a view.
"Large numbers of people around the world clearly like what Barack Obama represents," GlobeScan chairman Doug Miller said.
"Given how negative America's international image is at present, it is quite striking that only one in five think a McCain presidency would improve on
the Bush administration's relations with the world." (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:11 PM by ProfEmeritus
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For United States citizens-
Do YOU care what the world wants?
Do you think they REALLY know what Obama "stands for"?
www.abc.net.au
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:22 PM by eNumbra
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I care that we do what's best for America, right now that includes not listening to who the rest of the world would vote for.
We are not Britain, nor are we France, Russia, China or Chile. We are America and we should be following our Constitution.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:26 PM by jamie83
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
For United States citizens-
Do YOU care what the world wants?
Do you think they REALLY know what Obama "stands for"?
The rest of the world has shown little evidence of being able to know what's best for themselves let alone what's best of the U.S.
Maybe if there was evidence the "rest of the world" had superior skills at knowing what's best I might care.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:29 PM by ProfEmeritus
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I agree. In fact, the world's desire to see Obama is one more reason to vote for McCain-Palin Given that most Western European countries are, in
effect, Socialist countries, it makes sense that they would want a socialist as President of the US.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:35 PM by whaaa
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Or perhaps the rest of the world see's McCain-Palin as a continuation of the Bush neocon agenda. That has worked so well for us.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:41 PM by LLoyd45
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Why as American citizens, should we care who the rest of the World wants to be our next President? We're a sovereign nation, and have the right to
vote for whichever candidate we believe will promote the best interests of our own country.
[edit on 9-9-2008 by LLoyd45]
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:42 PM by Alora
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I do care what the rest of the world wants. It does NOT, will NOT affect my vote, however, mainly because I'm the one who has to live here, but I
think it is important to at least listen to the opinions of our neighbors. Often times it is the outside observers who can see things a little clearer
than those who are caught up in action.
I don't think it is healthy to keep building up walls of perceived superiority or entitlement. The alienation so many Americans seem to want for
America will, I believe, only serve to bite us in the rump.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:48 PM by R-evolve
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Im not american and i'll be honest i dont care who you vote for. What i do think is people are easily manipulated ( across all nations ) they see a
young good looking and charismatic politician or an old one who looks like many politicians before him, has politics become this shallow or are
obama's policies actually good ones, basically is obama the right man for the right reasons the simple truth is ive seen lots of media footage on
obama and his huge audiences but i still dont really know what he's about. I dont know much of mcain either but the media coverage hasnt been
anywhere near the same level for him over here at least (UK).
they are just representatives anyway, decisions should be made by the people and implemented by the government, i dont care if a politician is against
abortion, until we are they can shut up and put up, if only eh.
[edit on 9-9-2008 by R-evolve]
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:52 PM by ProfEmeritus
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Or perhaps the rest of the world see's McCain-Palin as a continuation of the Bush neocon agenda. That has worked so well for us.
John McCain was rated a 40 ranking for liberal and 59 for conservative in 2007, in the social area. I would hardly call him a neo-con, as he has
embraced many of the social liberalist agenda, as evidenced by his 40% vote for such items.
en.wikipedia.org...
Neoconservatism was a political philosophy that emerged in the United States from the rejection of the social liberalism, moral relativism, and
New Left counterculture of the 1960s.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:54 PM by jamie83
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Originally posted by Alorabut I think it is important to at least listen to the opinions of our neighbors.
The problem with this is who's opinion do you listen to? Which country's opinion? A lot of countries LOVE George Bush and what he's done.
Then there's the issue of how do you determine what an entire other country wants? With polling?
And even if polls showed 60% want McCain and 40% want Obama, how do you discount that 40% minority?
So while it's a noble thought to consider your neighbor's feelings, I'm guessing you probably don't even do it in your own neighborhood, let alone
the global neighborhood. Why? Because it quickly would deteriorate into becoming a pointless exercise.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:54 PM by marg6043
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:56 PM by ProfEmeritus
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I think that the reason so many Europeans like Obama rests with the press that he has received by both left-leaning press in Europe and America, and
the generally negative opinion that the press presents concerning McCain.
I would be less concerned if they felt that way after viewing the upcoming debates, and BOTH candidates speeches, and not what is presented by the
press.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:00 PM by ProfEmeritus
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Bingo!!!!!!!!!!!!!Whaaa you nailed my friend is not such much as wanting obama they just don't want another republican like bush in the white
house.
McCain is nothing like Bush. Furthermore, if you look at the history between Bush and McCain, you will see just how different the two actually are.
About the only thing they have in common is the (R) next to their names.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:02 PM by FlyersFan
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
For United States citizens-
Do YOU care what the world wants?
Do you think they REALLY know what Obama "stands for"?
No I don't care what the world wants.
No I don't think they REALLY know what Obama stands for.
Heck, I don't think most Americans know what he stands for either.
I'm sure the Bildebergers know what Obama stands for.
I'm sure they know what McCain stands for as well.
So .. answers to your two questions are NO and NO.
Thanks for asking. 
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:12 PM by SectionEight
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The rest of the world along with Osama bin Laden wanted Kerry too.
This time around it's Ahmedinajad, Putin, Chavez, Khadaffi...
Nice company the "rest of the world" keeps on this issue.
I predict another bump in the polls for McCain and another nail in the Obama political coffin just on this news alone.
[edit on 9-9-2008 by SectionEight]
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:16 PM by Benevolent Heretic
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
Do YOU care what the world wants?
Do you think they REALLY know what Obama "stands for"?
I have some concern what the world wants, but my bigger concern is what is best for the US.
And good international relations are GOOD for the US.
Working with people around the world with respect and diplomacy is GOOD for the US.
Bush&Son have done a great deal to damage our relationships with people around the world and healing those wounds is GOOD for the US.
Do they know what Obama stands for? Apparently they do. 
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:19 PM by MrVertigo
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Originally posted by jamie83
The problem with this is who's opinion do you listen to? Which country's opinion? A lot of countries LOVE George Bush and what he's done.
Which countries? The only one I can think of is maybe Georgia, but I'm not even sure of that.
I Remember in 2004 when Bush got reelected, there was a poll in Scandinavia, where I live, and only about ten percent would vote for Bush.
In Europe people generally lean towards the democrats in US elections, even despite the fact that a lot of European governments have shifted to the
right of the middle.
I think one of the main reasons is that Republicans tend to emphasize patriotism a lot, which to Europeans is a bit too close to nationalism.
Now I'm in no way saying that Americans should vote after what the rest of the world thinks. But there can be no doubt that America would benefit
greatly from improving its international standing, and right now that's a lot more likely to happen with Obama as president.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:21 PM by whaaa
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
McCain is nothing like Bush. Furthermore, if you look at the history between Bush and McCain, you will see just how different the two actually are.
About the only thing they have in common is the (R) next to their names.
Perhaps the world can also see that McCain might not last to long and they are scared to death of Palin. Hand picked by the neocons.
I'm not so naive as to think the neocons will just roll over and let the agenda they worked so hard for fall by the wayside. ex NAU, PNAC
It's a brave new world, welcom to the monkey house.
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:22 PM by Stormdancer777
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I think much of the world sees Obama as a weak leader, maybe, with this in mind, is it any wonder why our enemies would prefer him, over McCain?
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