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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 01:53 PM by grimreaper797
reply to post by SectionEight



Not really. I don't "hate" bush, though I am 18-25. I have always been a conservative economically. Show me what candidates running are running on an ecomically conservative ticket.

John McCain isn't. He will increase spending by billions of dollars. We already know Obama isn't. Giuliani was, but he had little foreign policy experience/understanding.

Truth is, even though Ron Paul has some ridiculous policies (that would never get past congress ANYWAY) he is economically and socially conservative on the issues. That is why he gets my vote.

You don't have to hate bush and love che "the psychpathic murderer" guevara to understand that Ron Paul is indeed a conservative. One of the few still running for presidency.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 01:57 PM by grimreaper797
reply to post by SectionEight



nevermind, now I know you are just a Fox News minion as they were the ones portraying Ron Paul to be part of that absurd 9/11 truth movement, even though Ron Paul is on record saying he supports no such thing.

When you go to hannity and colms for news, this is the kind of person that you get.



reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:04 PM by ItsTheQuestion
What has impressed me most about Rep. Paul is that he has helped me to understand what true conservatism is actually about. The Neo-Con agenda has gathered up many of the chronically angry, basement-warrior types out there [they're not all liberals, that's for sure...although they may still be naked at their computer in their Mom's finished basement, but that's beside the point] and convinced them that their version of a "Republican revolution" what the G.O.P.'s all about. Empire-building, essentially.

You know, the ones who sing songs about bombing other countries, for example.

Paul suggests fiscal conservatism, a more-isolationist policy, and less governmental intrusion in the lives of Americans. Sounds great...

I haven't felt good about the left-side of the ticket, although I've always voted "D". I'm not sure if Sen. Obama is truly who he appears to be [agent of change], or if he's just a CFR-puppet.

I would not vote for Sen. McCain.

Now, if Rep. Paul is on the ballot...first, let's hope that, IF HE RUNS, he'll be allowed into the debates. And if so, he'll have to improve on his body language a bit. While he was certainly my horse in the Republican primary-season debates, and he livened 'em up, he didn't carry himself with quite the poise and confidence one would need to effectively challenge the two parties in an election. Not to disparage him; rather, just to point out an observation of mine.

I'll have to stay tuned.

[edit on 9.9.2008 by ItsTheQuestion]


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:40 PM by burdman30ott6
Couple of disjointed thoughts here.

1. The idea that Kucinich may be among the "others" who would support a Paul run: I'm not sure Dr. Paul wants that endorsement. Aside from having a decent looking wife, Dennis Kucinich is a ranting, raving, ass of a man. He's viewed by mainstream America as a complete loon and Paul's garnering of his support would probably hurt his campaign far more than it would help him.

2. I watched Ron Paul on Colbert last week and gotta say, I was somewhat dismayed. I was actually a Paul supporter during the primaries, but he seemed different then. On Colbert he had absolutely no oratory, and he sounded very unimposing bordering on frail. For the first time I actually saw what some of his detractors have been saying, at times he does come off like a little old man who's weak in the poop. I'm willing to write off the Colbert appearance as an abberition and give him the benefit of the doubt, but many more uninspiring appearances like that and I just can't see myself voting for him, throw away or not.

3. The key demographics in this election are Hillary supporters who don't trust/like Obama and young people who don't relate to McCain. I honestly cannot see Ron Paul attracting disgruntled Hillary supporters, especially not the way the Palin pick seems to be doing for John McCain. I can, however, see Ron Paul attracting his young voter support back into the fold, much of it at the detriment of Barack Obama. Spin it however you want, but the meat & potatoes of registered GOP voters have come to terms with and are now firmly behind John McCain come November. The party wide insanity and ridiculous talk of sacrificing this election for the future good of the party is, thankfully, over. I'm not sure the same can be said for the Democrats, who still seem to have a pretty deep rut between Obama & Hillary's diehards... a rut which a Ron Paul could drive along and steal a few handfulls of voters from.



reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:47 PM by ItsTheQuestion
reply to post by burdman30ott6





burd, I know that you've seen this...this is for those who haven't.

And I found Rep. Paul to be surprisingly funny and composed. Sure, he rung his hands a bit, but Colbert's character is quite the aggressive interviewer.

Not bad...


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:50 PM by Unit541
Originally posted by SectionEight
reply to
post by walkinghomer



It doesn't matter to the rest of america what Ron Paul claims to stand for, we never got past the 911 conspiracy garbage he was for. Maybe if he didn't start his message out in the fruitcake section we would have gotten futher into his agenda. He only garners at best 10% and that was not even evident nationwide in the primaries. His demographic is easily seen by who shows up at his rallyies, does his viral internet campaigning and disrupted strawpolls.


You have just certified that you haven't ever taken just a few seconds of your time to actually find out what it is he "claims" to stand for. If you knew even one single thing about his position on any issue, you would have never embarrassed yourself by posting the above. Any and all comments made by you thus far in this thread, are therefore baseless, and will be considered vomit from your keyboard.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 02:52 PM by mybigunit
reply to post by burdman30ott6



If you were once a RP supporter how can you even be a McCain supporter they are total opposites. McCain is for big Fannie government bailouts, Paul is not, McCain is for bases in every country and a empire building agenda, Ron Paul is not, McCain is for legislative morality and telling people how to run their own lives, Ron Paul does not want to...I can go on and on but have crap to do. There is no comparison. McCain and Obama are the same big government and big spending its just one of them is going to tax you up front and the other will put it on the charge card.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 03:01 PM by Komodo
reply to post by Karlhungis



amen brother.. amen! according to Google trends, how could anyone really vote in this election.



reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 03:19 PM by burdman30ott6
reply to post by mybigunit



I'm not so much supporting McCain as I am trying my damnedest to keep Barack Obama out of the White House. I'd rather spend four years extracting shards of glass from my testicles than deal with four years of Obama/Biden. The way I see it, a vote for McCain equals a -1 vote for Obama because I'm voting for the man most likely to defeat him. A vote for Ron Paul is a zero sum vote, as I wasn't going to vote for Obama in any scenario but I also didn't cast a vote that actually hurts Obama's chances.

I also have another motive. I do not live in a swing state. Washington will go to Obama regardless because the region west of the Cascades is firmly entrenched in the liberal machine. However, one issue that has cheesed me off over the past 8 years is how often the "Bush lost the popular vote so he isn't legitimate" nonsense has been thrown at us. He lost the popular vote purely because conservatives in the far western states of Cali, Oregon, and Washington decided to just go home after work, knowing their states were going to Gore regardless of their votes. I'm doing my part to try and prevent that from happening again.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 03:20 PM by mybigunit
reply to post by burdman30ott6



ouch I dont know about the shards of glass being pulled from testicles....I think Id almost rather have Obama than do that for one year


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 03:29 PM by burdman30ott6
reply to post by solarstorm



The first place I lived after moving from New Mexico was Tucson, for 6 years. I miss the quail and the monsoons.

Remember immediately prior to 9/11 there was actually a strong movement to impeach McCain among the hard line conservatives who felt he'd screwed us over on firearm issues? The movement quieted down after 9/11, but leading into the 2004 elections it was widely assumed that he'd struggle to keep his senate seat. His detractors in Arizona are very loud, but his supporters are very numerous. He won his seat in a landslide and, inexplicably to me, it was actually my friend J.D. Hayworth who shockingly lost 2 years later.

This is much of the same. McCain's winning Arizona isn't even a question in my mind, though those opposed to him certainly are hoping that this falsehood will become an issue in people's minds, which is why they've raised this rabble.
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