Obama and Biden voted for the Bridge to nowhere, page 1
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reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 09:23 PM by mabus325
64.233.169.104...:szpJxaSZwiMJ:www.retireted.com/real-estate/gravina-bridge/ted-earmarked-funds-for-bridge-that-goes-nowhere/+


“The proposed Gravina Island Bridge, also known as the “Bridge to Nowhere,” became a national symbol of wasteful congressional spending and driver of earmark reform. On Sept. 21, 2007, the State of Alaska officially abandoned the controversial project.

The Gravina Island Bridge initially received $223 million in 2005 via earmarks by Alaska Senators Ted Stevens and Lisa Murkowski. The bridge would have connected Ketchikan, Alaska with its local airport on nearby Gravina Island (population 50). Congress stripped the earmark after a national uproar about it but appropriated the money anyway for unspecified transportation uses. Former Gov. Frank Murkowski’s administration set aside about $113 million of the appropriation for the Ketchikan bridge. However, Gov. Sarah Palin said the $398 million bridge was $329 million short of full funding, and only $36 million in federal funds were set aside for it. She said it was clear Congress had little interest in spending any more money for it and that the state had higher priorities.”


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 11:15 PM by bknapple32
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Then one topic at a time. Cause the backwards way Katrina was used here was misleading, wouldn't you agree?



reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 11:44 PM by loam
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Well it ironically puts into focus their priorities with respect to the bridge project. In other words, in this instance, and in their view, the need for additional Katrina funding was outweighed by these other funding interests.

I think that looks pretty bad when they have spent much of this week painting Palin as someone gorging at the public trough and McCain as a hypocrite-- particularly when Obama/Biden's spending records are even worse, and much of this controversy surrounds this one specific funding issue which Obama/Biden voted for.....twice.

It is no mistake McCain is broadening his lead. The wheels are starting to come off the Obama cart.



[edit on 8-9-2008 by loam]


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 12:19 AM by bknapple32
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Again , did you read the 15 things he has done for Katrina, or did you just skip the link?


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 12:28 AM by SectionEight
Originally posted by bknapple32
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Again , did you read the 15 things he has done for Katrina, or did you just skip the link?


He just nullified all of that with one boneheaded vote.

I was more interested in a few other things on that link you provided.
He is against homeowners having guns for self defense in their own homes and voted to make it illegal to defend yourself in you own home with a firearm. That one will sit well with mid america.

Or how about the one defending gang members from ever having to face the death penalty for murdering in the gangs name? That is one I would just love to see him try to defend in the Ohio swingstate during a debate.



reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 12:59 AM by bknapple32
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I can quickly tel you that most liberals are against death penalties when DNA is out here freeing guilty men.

the rest, I'll put more research in.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 01:06 AM by SectionEight
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A broad sweeping against the death penalty law is one thing but one that is tailor made to only protect gang members convicted of murder is another far different law. Your average law abiding citizen does not understand the need to protect a gang member who murders in the name of the gang. I don't see how you could even start to say anything about such a law on the national stage without looking bad.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 11:33 AM by nyk537
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You couldn't. Both of these issues would be terrible for Obama if they came up in a debate.

Regardless of whatever he has done for Katrina in the past, the fact remains that he voted against shifting additional funding from this project to those efforts. Not to mention the fact that his argument against her supporting the project at first is nullified because of his repeated voting for it.

Obama just keeps tripping over his past with every new issue that comes up.

We are watching the slow death of the Messiah here.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 11:45 AM by bknapple32
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Well 81 other senators voted with Obama, so there must of been a reason. Im searching for it now, and when I find it, I will post it.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:09 PM by maybereal11
The HR 3058 bill passed the senate by 93%.

93 Senators voted for it.
1 against it. Bayh from Indiana
6 not present...McCain among them.

* This bill includes a great deal more than just the "bridge to no where".

www.govtrack.us...

It's strange that something McCain opposed strongly...he didn't show up to cast a vote? AND why did 93 out of 94 Senators present vote for it?

Let's think. Anyone want to actually read what was in the bill?

OR we can just continue to gobble up the spin.



[edit on 9-9-2008 by maybereal11]
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