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Church of Scientology faces fraud trial in France

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posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 08:24 PM
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Church of Scientology faces fraud trial in France


www.guardian.co.uk

The latest case centres on a complaint made in 1998 by a 33-year-old woman who said she was approached by a group of people outside a Paris metro station who offered her a free personality test and a later meeting to interpret the results. Over the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (£17,000) to the Scientologists for courses, books, medication, and "purification packs".Judge Jean-Christophe Hullin ruled that the Scientologists' operational centres in France, its "Celebrity CenteThe latest case centres on a complaint made in 1998 by a 33-year-old woman who said she was approached by a group of people outside a Paris metro station who offered her a free personality test and a later meeting to interpret the results. Over the following months, she said she paid 140,000 francs (£17,000) to the Scientologists for courses, books, medication, and "purification packs".
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posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 08:25 PM
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I was always one for the benefit of the doubt to Scientologists. Until...

I was in Hollywood recently and walked past the Scientology centre where there was a number of Scientologists doing this free 'screening' and i wondered if anyone actually EVER passed these screenings. The person who i was with said they had never seen or heard of someone passing them.

I thought there must be only of two options, we are all inferior or it is just a scam. I wonder whether this case will shed some light on that.



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posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 08:55 PM
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I hope France doesn't screw this up. We all need to have our governments start looking into the fleecing of thousands of citizens in all our countries. NO, no one even comes close to passing the "Exam". Whats pisses me off is that these folks don't have to make financial statements so we could actualy know what they are up to!

Zindo



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:17 PM
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I wonder if the church of Scientology has to pay taxes in the U.S.? It's a brilliant business scheme, but horrible ethically...they are more blatant about it, but there are many churches out there that do similar things and aren't called out on it. Franky I think the idea of the church is pretty nonreligious and leads to fraud...and I'd consider myself a religious and spiritual person...but just the idea of a church makes me think of fraud. Personally I think churches should have to pay taxes on anything that isn't redistributed, then we kill two birds with one stone, powerful churches wanting too much political influence and a theocratic government and churches will give more, so hopefully the government doesn't have to...I know that's a different issue, but it's in the same light.

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posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 08:21 AM
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WHAT IS THE SECRET THAT THE “ANTI-GOD CULT” CALLED “SCIENTOLOGY” FEARS THE MOST FROM BEING EXPOSED?

The secret most un-exposed about Scientology is that is it an “Applied Physiological Philosophy” rather than an “Applied Religious Philosophy”. All Scientology courses, all auditing processes, and all the management and professional courses are based on physiological phenomenas, psychophysiology, emotions, human behavior patterns etc., that are our birth right and used in Scientology as their own discoveries. Even their PTS-SP data is based upon how a “Symptom” re-stimulation is brought out by physiological reactions of the mind affecting the body when under stress. They blame innocent human beings called by them “suppressive persons” for bringing out a symptom that was there to warn you of hidden real illnesses caused by non-suppressive sources such as parasites, chemicals, poisons, toxins, viruses and bacteria. The data on PTS-SP is twisted by them to blame innocent people in order to keep them in line.

The only way to fight them is to expose to the world--how Scientology has used physiological phenomenas as the basis for a false religion. How it has harmed families by claiming that innocent mothers and fathers are SPs -- when they lied about symptom re-stimulations to the world.

No where in Scientology will you find courses or services on any bible, there is no study or belief in heaven, hell, saints, angels, the devil, or even God himself. They do not study religion or even believe in religions. They do not share common values with any other religion. Their goal is to eliminate all other religions.

The E-meter reads your physiological reactions, the Ronbots never calls it that—they call it the “CHARGE” or the “MASS” or “ENGRAMS” OR “MENTAL IMAGE PICTURES” that you have in your brain—all meant to distract you from the truth.

Know this fact --- There is a law of Nature or law of God called “Physiological Reactions” that is the true secret behind Scientology’s Dianectic study technology.

AUDITING ERASES AND LESSONS YOUR PHYSIOLOGICAL REACTIONS!!! Once they are gone – your symptoms can’t be re-stimulated by stress or arguments. This is NOT a good thing, because ALL doctors depend on symptoms to guide them in treating you! This is why they prohibit you from seeing the doctors of your choice!!! Understand now how the scam works? Now when you argue with your mother and don’t get sick – you think she was the cause of all your illnesses.

If you were audited a hundred times over and over again (repetitive auditing) for a word that you were ordered to never clear or understand, and then made to read a page that contained that word—it would never again read on the Emeter or cause a physiological reaction.
Both Psychiatry and Scientology treats the symptoms of the mind and not the real causes of mental illnesses, one with drugs and one with erasing physiological reactions called Engrams or mental image pictures! Which one is worst? Drugs you can stop, but the other is irreversible and also a dangerous and deadly scam.

With the knowledge contained here, psychiatry will defeat $cientology easily.

LRH discovered that when you passed a misunderstood word—you manifested many reactions of various types: Yawning, sleepiness, not there feeling, dizziness, blurry eyes, nervousness and dozens more.

Being the liar that he was, he claimed that physiological reactions which he now calls “Dianetics” was “‘his” invention and not a law of God; he hid the fact that it is our human inheritance since time began.

Granted that his power of obnosis (observation) was the best in the world, his crime against humanity was to make a “religion” based upon the falsehood, that it was his very own invention or creation and not a law of God belonging to all Humanity as their lawful right.

For proof that the Cult has lied to you: -- Google “L. Ron Hubbard and Physiological Reactions” or visit their own Godless websites:
www.studytechnology.org... or www.lronhubbardstudytech.asn.au... www.studytech.org...
www.effective-education.org...

LRH used God’s Natural laws to make slaves of mankind!

“So long as a physiological phenomenon remains the knowledge of a few and is denied to the many it can be utilized to control the many.” LRH (from Journal of Scientology Issue 4-G from Oct. 1952)

“This universe has long been looking for new ways to make slaves. Well, we've got some new ways to make slaves here.” LRH (from PDC tape lecture #20 “Formative State of Scientology, Definition of Logic”, given on 6 Dec 52)

"All men shall be my slaves! LRH

All women shall submit to my charms! LRH

All mankind shall grovel at my feet and not know why!" [L. Ron Hubbard, "Affirmations", late 1940s] Affirmations, exhibits 500-4D, E, F & G. See Church of Scientology v Armstrong, transcript volume 11, p.1886.

"Somebody some day will say 'this is illegal'.
By then be sure the orgs say what is legal or not."
L. Ron Hubbard, HCOPL 4 January 1966

"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM”. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them." - L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418

"Scientology...is not a religion." - L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251
L. Ron Hubbard’s religion before he discovered physiological reactions was “Satanism”.
He wanted to invent a new religion masked as being good, but in fact its goals were totally evil so that he could take his place on the "Throne of the Beast," which he firmly believed himself to be the rightful heir. Being an evil Satanist he wanted to destroy all other religions and have Scientology as the only religion left on Earth. He wanted to be the RULER of the NEW WORLD ORDER and sit on the Throne of the Beast.

All living beings have physiological (The functions and activities of life or of living matter such as the organic processes of organs, tissues, or cells) phenomenas (observable reactions known through the senses rather than by thought or intuition), or physical manifestations (made evident by showing or displaying) or physical reactions, that we see or feel as symptoms, and they are external and/or internal or visible signs or warnings given to us, by our creator to help us survive, help us increase our potential, our knowledge and our health.
All life on Earth has these cause and effect reactions called physiological phenomenas. All living beings whether they are plant, insect, retile or animal or human could not live without these reactions. They influence the body’s and the mind’s reactions to any form of stimuli, and have an influence on every cell of the body and mind.
[Noun. Physiological reaction – Is an automatic instinctive unlearned reaction to a stimulus.]
[Examples of physiological reactions: inborn reflex, innate reflex, instinctive reflex, reflex response, unconditioned reflex, accommodation reflex, Babinski reflex, belching, headache, migraines, swelling, sweating, erections, blinking, blushing, burping, defecation reflex, disgorgement, involuntary eye blinking, farting, skin flush, gag reflex, goose bump, goose pimple, gooseflesh, involuntary gulping, involuntary hiccup, knee-jerk reflex, light reflex, puking, papillary reflex, rectal reflex, regurgitation, shaking, shiver, shock, sneezing, startle, stretch reflex, suckling reflex, trembling, upset stomach, vomiting, involuntary winking, yawn, yawning -- plus hundreds more.]
Ron studied Physiological reactions more than most scientists and applied it to invent a new Religion.
He did not invent but copied the laws of nature and scammed the whole world into thinking that he alone discovered these reactions and no one else did. What he did do - was noticed the reactions of students and from this scam invented Dianetics “study tech”.
Examples of Physiological reactions of the body and mind when reading:
Falling asleep while reading - yawning, confusion, feeling blank, feeling anxious, not there feeling, tearing eyes, eyes going out of focus, dizziness, reeling, rebelliousness, headaches, skipping words, feeling nauseous, fidgeting, jumpy while reading, can’t stay still, mispronouncing words, feeling as if you are squashed, feeling as if you are over-whelmed, twitching, can’t apply what you are reading, can’t understand what you are reading, etc. are all due to physiological reactions when you read misunderstood words or misunderstood definitions.
The Cult’s method of healing called “Touch Assist” is nothing more than erasing the physiological reactions of PAIN. Physiological reactions are the clues from the law of God called “The Law of Cause and Effect”; for every action there is a reaction. A complete understand of these two laws of God can be used to learn to self-heal.
To understand the sinful secrets of your enemy –is to know exactly where to hurt him.
Scientology’s copyrighted files on based upon the laws of Nature and laws of God; they are in violation of copyrights and patent rights. Therefore, the contents or subjects can be used by anyone and can be talked about without fear of any lawsuit.
Everything you do produces a reaction in your body and mind. Every time you read, eat, sleep, rest, run, etc. produces a reaction.
To tell your mother that you invented a new religion, because you discovered why you farted, is a good example of the scam that Ron pulled on you. He got away with it because the world did not see these reactions as they applied to reading. Or if some scientist saw and knew it—he did not protest it and allowed a Cult to claim it as their own new discovery.
If you want to destroy the cult, study your own reactions each time you do something—learn to read yourself and use your own power of obnosis to discover the real world within and around you.

Yours truly

RonbotHunter
All Rights Reserved.

Copyright Ronbothunter--- All Rights Reserved, Without Prejudice UCC 1-308 & 1-103.6 including rights under the UCC and common law remedies. I reserve my right not to be compelled to perform under any contract or commercial agreement that I did not personally sign and enter knowingly, voluntarily and intentionally and especially if I was not given full disclosure. I do not accept the liability of the compelled benefit of any unrevealed contract or commercial agreement.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by yellowcard
I wonder if the church of Scientology has to pay taxes in the U.S.? It's a brilliant business scheme, but horrible ethically...they are more blatant about it, but there are many churches out there that do similar things and aren't called out on it. Franky I think the idea of the church is pretty nonreligious and leads to fraud...and I'd consider myself a religious and spiritual person...but just the idea of a church makes me think of fraud. Personally I think churches should have to pay taxes on anything that isn't redistributed, then we kill two birds with one stone, powerful churches wanting too much political influence and a theocratic government and churches will give more, so hopefully the government doesn't have to...I know that's a different issue, but it's in the same light.

[edit on 8-9-2008 by yellowcard]


To answer your question, last I knew, The Church of Scientology did not have to pay taxes & yes, they need to be called on it because IMO, Scientology is nothing but a pyramid scheme. I also agree that there are other churches who commit fraud, but I don't believe it is on the scale the same scale as Scientology.

I've actually researched this church a great deal because of a family member who was sucked in. She took a great deal of money she recieved from her mothers estate and spent every penny of it in just under a year. All of it went to the church. And yes, it is her decision & we simply told her we felt it was not a good decision, but hers to make. Because of that, she is no longer allowed to associate with any of us. (per church orders)

Since this happened, we have spoken to her twice. (over 15 yrs.) She called once when her father died to find out if he left her anything. (He did not because he knew where the money would go) & one other time where she showed up looking for $$$ to make her way to the Scientology Center in Florida. We obviously didn't give it to her & we most likely will never see her again. (Wonder if they'll even bother to tell us when she passes away?)

Regardless, I call The Church of Scientology the Church of Ego's because that is what this scheme does. It feeds the ego's of it's higher ranking members (aka, the rich members) & uses the underlings for free labor. The whole belief system they present is nothing more than the moronic science fiction rantings of a man who had mental issues.

And no, I have no problems with alternative religions. I have family members who are buddist, wicken, christian, muslim & baptist. I was raised to be tolerant of others beliefs, but when I see a scheme, I call it for what it is.


Of course, this is all just my opinion & people are free to be riped off any way they choose.



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