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reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 07:57 PM by greeneyedleo
Still calling this story a flat out LIE.

Still searching for a 57th Airborne Unit. NOT finding anything.


Found this:


57th Transportation Battalion, 593rd Corps Support Group, Fort Lewis, Wash.
Link


Still searching. I would hope the OP is also searching to verify that the source he provided is legit and not complete lies.

[edit on 9/8/2008 by greeneyedleo]

Mod Edit: Fixed Link.

[edit on 8/9/2008 by Mirthful Me]


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:05 PM by anyone
I can see why this may be propaganda because of the source. But I was thinking about how soldiers are given orders and go though with these orders because they cannot commit "mutiny" but what if these orders are so horrific that they can't live with what they have done. I would think that a story like this would not be one that our military would like leaked. I am not saying I think it's true but it got me thinking... After what went down at the RNC and seeing the types of things cops were ordered to do I can't help but think that many of these cops were just doing what they were told and/or backing up their fellow police officer because of the "brotherhood." And then when I thought of that I thought of all of the "good" cops who are at home sick to their stomachs after doing what they did. Off topic but it is where my mind went.

To try to understand why our soldiers would do and have done the horrific things that some have I can't wrap my mind around how they could do these things and remain a moral human. It is because their moral compasses are being manipulated by an outside source. I can see this to be a possible truth.

It sounds like stories I have heard about things that happened in Vietnam. We as a planet need to take heed from this story even if it is not true. I know it is idealist but how do we not see this neverending cycle show that we are killing ourselves by killing our "enemies?"

-I kind had a little tangent there. Sorry.



reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:11 PM by MarkAkaSilent
reply to post by ppskylight



Im sorry you think of me as anti American but im not, America has had a big part in uniting Ireland under one flag. My country went through 800+ years of oppression from the British Government. Only in the last 20 years or so have things changed here. But through from say 1700 to the late 1970's we suffered terrible acts of evil and injustice and the majority were never reported in any news or publication, so you cant say that if you don't see it on mainstream media that it isn't true.


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:15 PM by CaptGizmo
reply to post by Major Discrepancy



Every time I ready your posts I picture R. Lee Ermey saying the whole thing. I think its just propaganda, but lets say it's real for a second and they all did die but really murdered and covered up to keep them from talking to any members of any investigation that we don't know about.

[edit on 9/8/2008 by CaptGizmo]


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:15 PM by SPC_D
I did a search for the 57th on ako and came up with a air medic company no such airborne unit that I could find I allsow searched the Unit Citation and Campaign Participation Credit Register
and found this in ref to the 57th airborne unit
57th Aviation Company
Valorous Unit Award—14 Aug 69–20 Jan 70, DAGO 43, 72
Meritorious Unit Commendation—Dec 65–Jun 66, DAGO 17, 68
RVN Gallantry Cross w/Palm—22 Feb 67–17 May 68, DAGO 21,
69; 1 Apr–26 Jun 70, DAGO 11,73
RVN Civil Actions Honor Medal, FC—1 Jul–21 Dec 70, DAGO 5,
73
57th Infantry Platoon
RVN Gallantry Cross w/Palm—24 Aug–31 Dec 69 and 31 Mar–30
Jun 70, DAGO 42, 72; 1 Apr–30 Jun 71 DAGO 6, 74; 1 Mar–9 Oct
71 DAGO 6, 74

57th Medical Detachment
Presidential Unit Citation—10–13 Jun 65, DAGO 43, 66
Meritorious Unit Commendation—Mar 64–Apr 65, DAGO 3, 66; 16
Feb–31 Dec 68, DAGO 51, 71, revoked DAGO 2, 71 which
amended DAGO 36, 70; 1 Jan 69–30 Apr 70, DAGO 24, 72; 1 May
70–30 Apr 71, DAGO 5,73; 31 May 72–28 Mar 73, DAGO 6, 74
RVN Gallantry Cross w/Palm—2–12 Jun 64, DAGO 46, 68
57th Transportation Battalion
Meritorious Unit Commendation—28 Dec 68–31 Mar 70, DAGO
52, 74
57th Transportation Company
Meritorious Unit Commendation—29 Mar–31 Dec 68, DAGO 39,
70
RVN Gallantry Cross w/Palm—1 Mar–9 Oct 71, DAGO 6,

hope this helps with the searching plesent day.

[edit on 8-9-2008 by SPC_D]



reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:16 PM by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by MarkAkaSilent


"...There is no "57th Unit of the Airborne Division". The story is a hoax... Not even very well written. I suggest not spreading the article around, since there's no evidence at all whatsoever to support the claims made."

this is a hoax


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:32 PM by CaptGizmo
reply to post by vance



Actually there is a 57th Airborne Division. It's just not active anymore or at least not since 14 June 1991.

Established as the 8th Pursuit Wing, it conducted training from 1940 to 1941. As a paper unit, it moved to India and then to Egypt in December 1942, finally gained personnel and aircraft, and became operational in March 1944. Initially, the 57th flew close air support missions against enemy troops and gun emplacements in the vicinity of Anzio, Italy; later, it flew bombing missions against railway marshalling yards at Foligno, Littoria, and Terni, Italy.

en.wikipedia.org...


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:51 PM by vance
reply to post by CaptGizmo



I was taliking about a "57th Unit of the Airborne Division" not the 57th Air Division. You got a lot of stars for the reply funny lol. That is how a lot of info gets screwed up Someone reads something and interprets it all wrong then passes the wrong info around some more. Too funny.


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:56 PM by greeneyedleo
reply to post by SPC_D



THANK YOU for making that call.

Now this thread should be moved to SKUNK WORKS. It is NOT breaking news. It is a big fat lie.



reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 09:00 PM by SPC_D
reply to post by greeneyedleo


Thank you Greeneyedleo, as for moving this thread I second that I hope it gets moved promptly. Like I allways say you cant beat good ol truth.


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 09:08 PM by SPC_D
reply to post by sqid4life


Hey there Squid or Shipmate or whatever, good evening to you and just so you know this story is false. We have proved it so. There is no need to get upset just "Count Bodies Like Sheep to the Rhythm of the War Drums" as Maynard James Keenan so wonderfully put it.

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