Sarah Palin belongs to a crazy church too! (video), page 4
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 03:51 PM by loam
reply to post by Benevolent Heretic



I think those are fair questions.

That's a lot better than assuming she's a religious nut hell bent on world domination.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 03:51 PM by scientist
reply to post by Stormdancer777



no offense to any particular denomination. There are many denominations of Pentecostal, just as there are many denominations of Catholic, Baptist, etc.

The reason I posted this, was to point out that her Church can be viewed as radical, just as any other politicians. The most ironic concept though, is that it seems to be better if you belong to a radical, isolationist church - as opposed to no church at all.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:19 PM by seagrass
reply to post by LoneGunMan





The Third Wave is a revival of the theology of the Latter Rain tent revivals of the 1950s and 1960s led by William Branham and others. It is based on the idea that in the end times there will be an outpouring of supernatural powers on a group of Christians that will take authority over the existing church and the world. The believing Christians of the world will be reorganized under the Fivefold Ministry and the church restructured under the authority of Prophets and Apostles and others anointed by God. The young generation will form "Joel's Army" to rise up and battle evil and retake the earth for God.
Dial up and videos don't like each other, so I am less likely to be hacked, but I still know how to read....
This doesn't sound that much different than Greys coming, or new age indigo children, or 2012 crap, or most new age thinking, or the jewish religion, or 141,000 lucky heaven lotto winners. This is why I am here and not in church on Sundays. But, until I hear her say something in regards to enlisting her children in this so called "Army", I will assume the best.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 04:42 PM by seagrass
you mean this? Looks to me like a lot of accusations with very little proof or evidence to back it up.. Looks like connecting the dots and making a theory from there...


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:06 PM by Stormdancer777
Originally posted by scientist
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post by Stormdancer777



no offense to any particular denomination. There are many denominations of Pentecostal, just as there are many denominations of Catholic, Baptist, etc.

The reason I posted this, was to point out that her Church can be viewed as radical, just as any other politicians. The most ironic concept though, is that it seems to be better if you belong to a radical, isolationist church - as opposed to no church at all.


No offence taken,

None I have been to have been radical, I was drawn to them because I was looking for something real, opposed to a social club, a place that still believed in the gifts of the spirit, a place that was more like the first Christian might have worshiped.

I knew she would get flack for this, mainstream Christians don't feel comfortable with pentecostalism,

It can be a very frightening and powerful experience at times to a newcommer, to be in some services.

But never boring.

I must say go and experience it for yourself, when the spirit moves, there is nothing like it, call it what you will, it is still aw inspiring


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:07 PM by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by scientist

You did not read the post carefully. I clearly stated that some of the pentecostal churches are abusing the gifts of tongues and prophecy. I was raised in one these churches, but no longer attend because I couldn't get straight answers about some of the very questions you ask in your post. I ask these questions every day. I want to know the origins of the universe, I want to know my purpose in life, and how can I be a better person. I happen to use the Bible as my primary, but not my only source for spiritual guidance and comfort. I also read Buddhist and Hindu text, as well as variouse philosophers, some who are agnostics and atheists, some who are christian.
I happen to have a strong beleifs that I developed from much personal soul searching, study, and meditation. Among these are an opposition to abortion, being in favor of the death penalty(when there is no doubt the person is guilty, i.e. dna evidence, numerous eye witnesses, etc.)
Evangelicals will ask the same questions when a world class crisis occurs that may indicate "the end of the world." They will look for solutions, and attempt to implement them. At that point, if all else fails, then I would have to suppose that it is "God's will."



reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:10 PM by Stormdancer777
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I clearly stated that some of the pentecostal churches are abusing the gifts of tongues and prophecy.


This is true, yet strange and powerful things happen, when it is real.

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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 05:24 PM by kettlebellysmith
reply to post by Scramjet76


Scramjet, I did not say that atheists and agnostics have no morals. But I have noticed that atheists tend to get quite vocal about any one who mentions God in public. If they don't believe then what do they have to fear.
I was raised in a Pentecostal church, and left as soon as I was old enough to tell my mother I wasn't going to attend any longer. The reason was that I could not get straight answers to the questions you pose in your post. I set out on my own journey, and have although I have drawn my personal moral code from the Bible, I have also studied and drawn from Buddhist and Hindu text, as well as various philosophers from every perspective.
I frequently ask what is the origin of the universe, where did I come from, what is my purpose in life, and how can I be a better person. As a result, I oppose abortion, am in favor of the death penalty under certain circumstances, believe in living compassionately, and helping others whenever I can. Sometimes, there are issues that come up that I have to think about, and sometimes I decide my original decision was wrong. I am not judging those who do not believe the way I do.
I have noticed that when I am asked about my views by those who are liberal, I am rarely allowed to finish a thought, and when I try, I am shouted down. That's the great thing about ATS. Here we can have long, intelligent, and (usually) civilized discussions that stimulate thinking and reevalutating.


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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 06:01 PM by Scramjet76
reply to post by kettlebellysmith



kettle,
I agree with a lot of what you say...


But I have noticed that atheists tend to get quite vocal about any one who mentions God in public.


Yes I have noticed that too. I think atheists fall into two categories:

1) Those who are pissed they couldn't figure out the meaning of life that they have contempt for others who think they have it all figured out.

2) Those who've studied history and have seen how religion has been used by "head honchos" over the centuries to control populations and brainwash them into following their authority.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 06:09 PM by Stormdancer777
reply to post by DraconianKing




It is not the norm today, but it is the original,


Acts 2:13

Others mocking said, These men are full of new wine.

www.letusreason.org...

Let me say, this is also done in other religious cultures.

The phenomenon of speaking in tongues during ecstatic religious experiences is also known as glossolalia, and began among the first Christians.

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