Palin makes yet ANOTHER gaffe...

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posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
could you point out what it was that she said that was incorrect? I had to put the speaker up to my ear to hear it, but I did hear the speach. So far I am very impressed with Mrs. Palin. She seems very well spoken and inteligent. I also like her no BS approach to things. that seems to make everything quicker and more efficent. Thanks for posting this. We need to let more people know what a great choice McCain made!

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Great choice huh? That's the faith of a fool. This woman is next in line for the highest office and a huge amount of responsibility. She has NO knowledge on what to do and ZERO experience on a national level.
This should scare the hell out of you, it does me. The speech was not her words, but a script to read.
She's a match alright, a match to light Rome.




posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 10:08 PM
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Originally posted by loam
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Not to derail the thread, but many who call themselves conservative have never really been conservative.


Just sayin'....


Oh there are PLENTY of Social Conservatives.. zealous religious types..

Few, very Few, actual Conservatives..

Most "Republicans" are Social Conservative Socialist.. they expect big Government, though say they don't, despise words like Fascism, which describes them, but because they are socially conservative and hate gays, minorities and the likes, they are Conservative all around.

Republicans, Democrats, two Liberal parties, Socially different, but neither party has ever solved a Social problem, have they? No. So wtf is the difference? Socialism through two different mediums.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 10:16 PM
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Can't argue with much of that.


Also an indication how doomed we are.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck
...Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac got "to big"? .. and "Too expensive for the tax payers"? .. Tax payers up until the bail out (that McCain supported) did not spend anything on them.

To big? I am still lost..


Me thinks she has no clue what they do. My only good feeling from this.. is when she said it McCain looked rather confused like "wha?"..



She made the statement when it was already a given that a bailout was coming. And "too big" might be referring to the fact that Freddie Mac was involved with about 1/2 of all mortgages in the entire country.

And to be clear, there was no gaffe. Palin was 100% correct. Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, while not officially supported by the government, were for years considered as if they *would* be supported by the government if need by. The mortgage crisis was in essence like a ponzi scheme, with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae being the last in line and left holding the bag.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 11:35 PM
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Hey jsobecky,

You don't actually need to hear it being said, the article I've put on my OP and the link tell you exactly what it was she said. And yes, I had to listen very intently as well, so it's not just you.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 11:36 PM
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It appears you have taken nothing from this thread.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Let's say for the sake of arguement that this is a gaffe. But being it is from the Huffington Post, I have my doubts.....

GAFFE SCOREBOARD

OBAMA 50+
PALIN 1

McCain/Palin will win in 2008.....and yes there will be riots.


Like I stated in a post before, no one is perfect, and it is most certain that mistakes will occur during speaking engagements. When a candidate is under Television Coverage and essentially "On The Record" 24 Hours a Day, 365 Days a Year, we will see and hear every last mistake they ever make. However, Obama has made so many of these errors as opposed to any current, or previous candidate, that one must wonder how he will do during the actual live debate sessions.

For instance, I heard Obama today speak an outright lie which was obviously an attempt to place himself in John McCain's shoes. He first stated that he has the upmost respect for the military, and he sees it as a truly noble profession. Well, I find this highly unlikely seeing how he treated the U.S. Marines at Bagram AFB in Afghanistan. An Individual there sent me a letter describing how they all lined up to shake Obama's hand, but he brushed by EVERY single one of them, went into a tent to shoot a basketball for the cameras, and he then left, all while ignoring the Military personnel lined up to meet him.

Now, as if that is not something, Obama then went on to describe how he was going to join the Military, but when he graduated from High School, Vietnam had ended, so he no longer felt the urgency for such enlistment. He then said that he did however enroll in the Selective Service upon graduation. He graduated in 1979, but Selective Service did not become active until Mid-Summer of 1980. When it did become active, he had NO choice BUT to Register.

ALSO, during this VERY same interview, Obama said "My Muslim Faith", and he actually continued on with his statement until George Stephanopoulos corrected him by saying "Christian". I am not claiming what this slip-up does or does not indicate, but these are two major mistakes within the very same interview, by a candidate who has had the last nine months to gain speaking experience, and grow accustomed to his media attention.

Without a Teleprompter, Obama is not a quick nor clever minded individual. John McCain on the other hand lacks Obama's poise and power when speaking before massive audiences with a Teleprompter, but he is extremely quick-witted when speaking naturally. The Debates should be VERY interesting to say the least.

In regards to the idea of "Riots", I hate to say it but I also see this occurring to some degree if Obama loses. However, they had riots during the last Presidential Inauguration in 2005, right alongside the Parade Route. With that considered, I know we will see Anarchist Protestor Riots, but I sincerely hope we do not see any race based ones. We need to be civilized no matter who wins.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 12:34 AM
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Originally posted by RRconservative
Let's say for the sake of arguement that this is a gaffe. But being it is from the Huffington Post, I have my doubts.....

GAFFE SCOREBOARD

OBAMA 50+
PALIN 1

McCain/Palin will win in 2008.....and yes there will be riots.


And yes there will be FAILURE!

AND the GOP will be done. The country is swinging BLUE - RED will soon be dead.
If it takes these to bonehead to finally put the dirt on the coffin
so be it.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 12:43 AM
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Originally posted by Rockpuck

Oh there are PLENTY of Social Conservatives.. zealous religious types..

Few, very Few, actual Conservatives..

Most "Republicans" are Social Conservative Socialist.. they expect big Government, though say they don't, despise words like Fascism, which describes them, but because they are socially conservative and hate gays, minorities and the likes, they are Conservative all around.

Republicans, Democrats, two Liberal parties, Socially different, but neither party has ever solved a Social problem, have they? No. So wtf is the difference? Socialism through two different mediums.



You lack any understanding whatsoever of how the government actually operates. The only "Socialists" within America are those Extremists who have hijacked the Democrat Party. These are individuals such as, but not limited to: Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, and Barack Obama. A Socialist believes in Government control of Corporate Entities, and ideals such as that of the Government being able to take care of every citizen through Universal Healthcare, Universal College, Increased Welfare Programs, etc. To be a Socialist you must wish for an end to Capitalism.

The Republican Party is the very anti-thesis of Socialism. They tend to believe in more freedom for Corporations, and the furtherance of Individual financial freedom through, but not limited to: Lower taxes, Less taxes, and Small-Business incentives through the aforementioned. They also believe in decreasing Government funded programs such as Welfare, and the lessening of Governmental restrictions on Constitutionally Guaranteed Rights.

With all of that in mind, it is basic common sense that not everyone will follow such ideals as if they are based in cement. People are allowed to make-up their own minds, and decide for themselves where they stand on issues. Many on both sides of the aisle will find at least an issue or two upon which they agree with eachother.

Your belief that someone "Hates Minorities" because they are a Republican is as narrow minded as the label itself.

Also, your labelling of someone who follows a religion as a "zealot" displays your allegiances with a fine crystal magnifying lense.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 12:59 AM
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Absolutely right, only an idiot would run for Public Office. This is true in American, and in every "Democracy". That is why the lack of "leaders", and leadership, is such a big issue today.

Anyone smart enough to make a few bucks will never run for public office, he will just be hidden in the background, pulling his strings on these idiots we call our leaders.
This, in the new media frantic world, will be the downfall of "Democracy"; only professional politicians, that can hide their skeletons, or have them hidden for them, will run for office. They are just too incompetent to get a real job.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 01:38 AM
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Ok wait, I take the gaffe is where she says that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have gotten too big and too expensive to the tax payers or something like that.

Before the take-over and before the rumors of the take-over, this would have been a huge gaffe. FNMA and FHLMC are stockholder owned so they really have nothing to do with taxpayer money propping them up.

But the reality is that situation with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac IS too big and too expensive for the taxpayer.

Only a partisan would take it as a gaffe. The reality shows that the tax payer is going to be paying for all the greed that was a part of the subprime crisis, from the house-flipper to the Chinese investor buying insured debts.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 06:08 AM
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While it is true that Sarah Palin has a speech writer, so does Obama and Biden. All politicians have speech writers. But most politcians review and edit their speeches before they give them.
Peggy Noonan was Reagan's speech writer, but Reagan often rewrote his speeches himself, according to Ms Noonan. Thus he was conveying HIS ideas in HIS way, with HIS words. This is the reason Reagan was known as the great communicator.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 06:49 AM
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How many people who either ran for president of vice president ever had any expirience unless they were running for a second term? They were in local politics, senate, house, movies, whatever. From what it looks like to me, the President needs to be able to think on his/her feet and adapt to any situation with grace and dignity. That is something you either have or you don't. We will see in the debates. That is the truest test in my opinion.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 11:08 AM
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As Bill Mayer so aptly put it the last time he was on Larry King: "Americans will demand no less than ignorance from their leaders."

Americans seem to be intimidated by candidates who are educated, smart and understand basic things about the world, economy, politics, geography, science etc. They somehow feel comfortable with a fundamentalist soccer mom moose hunter? Just gun down wild wolves and bear from a helicopter and you are in like flint. Remember when Kerry was criticized for being a wind surfer because he "couldn't relate" with the heart of America? Why is this country so f**in red?

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posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 11:40 AM
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Hehe, amusing. Palin this, Palin that...just keep focusing on Palin. Palin's hair, Palin’s glasses, Palin’s speeches, Palin's kids, Palin's husband, the number of time she goes to the ladies room. It must be kind of embarrassing to have fallen to the level of tabloid politics.

Anyway, I've seen it all before. Moaning and groaning and gnashing of teeth. Doom and Gloom, lies and fear mongering. Then the wake up in November to "Huh? What the hell just happened?"

The fundamental flaw of threads like this is that the OP and supporters actually think they are going to change minds. The conventions are over. Do you really think that there are that many voters out there who haven't already made up their minds?

Unless of course you are referring to these voters possibly?

www.gallup.com...



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 11:48 AM
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In response to Fromabove:

I do not understand how anyone can see Obama's religious views as a Gaffe. It was founded wiht this country, the freedom of #ing religion. Everyone that says otherwise need to shut their mouths. It shows how ignorant the majority of America is to vote for a president who is solely Catholic. Grow up (Catholics, not Fromabove), your not the only religion and you don't control the country or the world. I wonder how fast he'd be out of the race if McCain had come out and said he was agnostic.

John Lennon for president 2008.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
could you point out what it was that she said that was incorrect? I had to put the speaker up to my ear to hear it, but I did hear the speach. So far I am very impressed with Mrs. Palin. She seems very well spoken and inteligent. I also like her no BS approach to things. that seems to make everything quicker and more efficent. Thanks for posting this. We need to let more people know what a great choice McCain made!


This is the problem...

Palin doesn't have to worry about making mistakes or sounding like an idiot because the public are such uninformed followers it won't matter anyway.

It is no longer about BEING good and right it is only about SEEMING good and right.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
could you point out what it was that she said that was incorrect? I had to put the speaker up to my ear to hear it, but I did hear the speach. So far I am very impressed with Mrs. Palin. She seems very well spoken and inteligent. I also like her no BS approach to things. that seems to make everything quicker and more efficent. Thanks for posting this. We need to let more people know what a great choice McCain made!


This is the problem...

Palin doesn't have to worry about making mistakes or sounding like an idiot because the public are such uninformed followers it won't matter anyway.

It is no longer about BEING good and right it is only about SEEMING good and right.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by network dude
could you point out what it was that she said that was incorrect? I had to put the speaker up to my ear to hear it, but I did hear the speach. So far I am very impressed with Mrs. Palin. She seems very well spoken and inteligent. I also like her no BS approach to things. that seems to make everything quicker and more efficent. Thanks for posting this. We need to let more people know what a great choice McCain made!


This is the problem...

Palin doesn't have to worry about making mistakes or sounding like an idiot because the public are such uninformed followers it won't matter anyway.

It is no longer about BEING good and right it is only about SEEMING good and right.



posted on Sep, 9 2008 @ 01:35 PM
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Triple post! There has got to be an award for that!





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