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AboveTopSecret.com And Robbie Williams Investigate UFOs at Gilliland Ranch


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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 05:28 PM by serin sister


merkaba link
www.keylonticdictionary.org...

the merkabah is also known as the star of david....



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reply posted on 5-10-2008 @ 10:11 PM by Anonymous ATS


I have not seen anything in these videos that seem to be UFO's?
I guess if you believe you will see!



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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 04:34 AM by enlighten2012


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not sure if these will help....

www.votexmaps.com
www.dnr.wa.gov/Publications/ger_geol_map_washington_pagesize.pdf



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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 06:20 PM by MrdDstrbr


Okay I have some questions, and my apologies if these have already been addressed:

JohnnyAnonymous:

James said that while you were there you captured most of the different phenomena, except for the big Triangles (which seem to be CSETI's specialty.... hehe ).

Did you capture a "Power-Up" there?

James also said that he gave you a DVD containing his best photographs of metallic-looking ships and such, and a DVD containing the footage from Greer and CSETI's visit in 2002. Have you had a chance to review that data? Will it be presented to ATS as well....?

Thanks
- Mrd



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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 07:34 PM by JohnnyAnonymous


Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
Okay I have some questions, and my apologies if these have already been addressed:

JohnnyAnonymous:

James said that while you were there you captured most of the different phenomena, except for the big Triangles (which seem to be CSETI's specialty.... hehe ).

Did you capture a "Power-Up" there?

James also said that he gave you a DVD containing his best photographs of metallic-looking ships and such, and a DVD containing the footage from Greer and CSETI's visit in 2002. Have you had a chance to review that data? Will it be presented to ATS as well....?

Thanks
- Mrd


We captured many forms of Phenomena. I still have my doubts about the supposed "power-ups" as I've seen satellites do the same thing as the Sunlight hit's it in a particular position.

Yes James gave us some DVD's but we've not had the time or opportunity to view them. Our Preliminary investigation is to deal with solely the material we gathered and hence this is why we won't be showcasing the material he gave us along with our reports and presentation.



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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 07:47 PM by MrdDstrbr


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That's totally understandable, that you want to showcase your own captures first.

I do feel though that those DVDs he gave you likely have some important evidence on them as well, that will contribute to the total picture of the Mount Adams phenomenon (and CSETI, and Greer....)

Will there eventually be threads on that data as well?



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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 08:46 PM by JohnnyAnonymous


Originally posted by MrdDstrbr

That's totally understandable, that you want to showcase your own captures first.
Will there eventually be threads on that data as well?


Can't answer about something I've not seen or looked into yet..



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reply posted on 6-10-2008 @ 08:49 PM by MrdDstrbr


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Ah well, all in due time then I suppose, no rush at all....



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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 01:40 AM by cmd18B


I have seen the same type of lights moving across the night sky here in New Jersey, I see it many times, Now I am not sure it these are the same unidentified objects patrolling the night sky but I have been told it may be the space station, does anybody have any other evidence to back it up?.Any information on this would be appreciated..



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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 05:10 AM by Anonymous ATS


what about the lights on the mountain u guys saw at night, do you think that might be a hoax created by the ranch owner, what are they, please point more lasers.



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reply posted on 7-10-2008 @ 09:31 PM by JohnnyAnonymous


Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
what about the lights on the mountain u guys saw at night, do you think that might be a hoax created by the ranch owner, what are they, please point more lasers.


The mountain in question is 13.5 miles away from our location.
Elevation 12,277 ft (3,742 m)[1]
Location Washington State, USA
Range Cascade Range
Prominence 8,116 ft (2,474 m)
Coordinates [show location on an interactive map] 46°12′08.68″N 121°29′27.22″W / 46.2024111, -121.4908944
Topo map USGS Mount Adams East
Type Stratovolcano
Volcanic arc/belt Cascade Volcanic Arc
Age of rock < 275 kyr
Last eruption ~550 BC ± 1000 years (950 AD)[1][2][3]
First ascent 1854 by A.G. Aiken and party
Easiest route South Climb Trail #183

Although we can not rule out that there were not people on the mountain, we all agree that we don't think that Mr. Gilliland was behind those lights that we observed. In fact I observed them almost every night fro the entire 2 weeks I was there, and I conclude that it would've taken quite an effort to have arrange such a hoax simply for our benefit. And the original plan was for us to soley be there for two days. So that wouldn't explain why I continued to observe those lights for the next week and a half..



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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 08:56 AM by starcraft


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Did you record the lights every night they were observed during those 2 weeks?

It would be interesting to see a capture from each individual night to see if the light was in the same general vicinity, or in different locations on the mountainside.

Was the light that appeared on the mountainside in the posted video ever observed moving on the other nights? It appeared stationary in the video. The other lights, "down" in the trees appeared to be moving, but not the one on the side of the mountain.

Thank you Johnny for responding to our questions.



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reply posted on 8-10-2008 @ 05:39 PM by JohnnyAnonymous


Originally posted by starcraft
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Did you record the lights every night they were observed during those 2 weeks?

It would be interesting to see a capture from each individual night to see if the light was in the same general vicinity, or in different locations on the mountainside.

Was the light that appeared on the mountainside in the posted video ever observed moving on the other nights? It appeared stationary in the video. The other lights, "down" in the trees appeared to be moving, but not the one on the side of the mountain.

Thank you Johnny for responding to our questions.


We had several nights where storms came in and we couldn't see the Mountain. But for the most part the lights were visible thruout the two weeks. My problem was that since I was only supposed to be there (at Gillilands) for several days which turned into 2 weeks, I was limited on my supply of tape. The nearest town (that sold tape) was about a 60 mile roundtrip and I ended up making that trip a number of times and was cleaning out every store I went to. First WalMart, then Rite-Aid, RadioShack and finally I ran out of places to buy tape at... So there were a number of days/nights that I had to decide what to use the remaining tape for.. I ended up using most of the tape for daylight captures in Infrared as that seem to be the most intriguing to me. Why? Because we had a visual reference shot in better exposure than at nighttime. When shooting at nighttime a cameras Iris has to be opened up to it's widest to allow the limited light in with less depth of field (and no visual references like trees, etc.). So to answer your question, yes, we did observe the lights many times on the mountain, but it wasn't a priority after the tapes starting running low. Do I think it deserves more investigating? Yes, but I'd want to put several teams on the mountain the next time along with a base-camp team at the ranch to try and triangulate where these lights were/are.



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reply posted on 9-10-2008 @ 12:28 PM by observe50


Mountain video:

Don't focus on the lights on the Mountains..... focus on the sky. As I wrote in an earlier post here somewhere the ships are moving way fast but I know what I am looking for and there is so much activity in the sky it would really shock you. Watch for small white specks or black specks try to catch them move (faaaaast).....some forward some back, some forward then back....they are moving fast you have to study it.

At some points you can see it come from the sky to the light you are speaking of on the Mountain. On at least two occasions I also could see the trail (vapor trail)

Some one said if you could slow it up you might be able to pick it all up.

I know the ships hang around Mountains and Volcano's so this doesn't surprise me but what I thought might be interesting is if you could use the IF in your back yard and let it run all night and see if you get anything.

From what I know the ships are all over the place you just have to catch them they are way to fast.



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reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 03:20 PM by Larababe


Hi Everybody,

Just a note to say, having surreptitiously lurked on this site for a while (God knows I've also checked out everything UFO related on Youtube and across Google) I have today joined and would like to say how interesting I found this investigation, the clips and the interviews. You guys seriously rock!!!

Although I cannot say I have ever seen a UFO, members of my family are certain they have; moreover, I can definitely relate to what Robbie Williams said about an unconventional upbringing, where an interest in the paranormal is regarded as perfectly "normal" and is therefore more likely to make one receptive to these experiences. I experienced a "miraculous" healing in my childhood and God knows have spent much of my adulthood trying to figure out the whys and wherefores.

I wonder...if whatever or whoever it is behind these UFOs revealed themselves, how their significantly advanced mindset would threaten our narrow-minded ideologies and deeply entrenched beliefs? I don't believe human-kind can take very much which unsettles the norm seeing as how we are such creatures of habit!!! Certain people might embrace a leap into the unknown, but who can say how the majority would react? Perhaps there is a very good reason why their interaction has been tantilisingly clandestine at best?

Thanks for a super-duper, thought-provoking website.



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reply posted on 9-11-2008 @ 03:45 PM by NephraTari


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You know I know there are alot of people who are NOT ready.. as a matter of fact they are still the majority, however I have often wondered why they don't just come take those that are ready and help us develop beyond what we can here in this stagnant environment... but I think the reason that will never happen is that if you take away the growing enlightened populace you are left with just cattle and they will never evolve any further without the help of those that are already aware of the greater truths or at least willing to accept them.

Still.. living amongst scared superstitious cattle makes awakening further very hard to do.



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reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 02:59 PM by Larababe


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Hi NephraTari

Love your pic btw - when I've worked out how to upload one I will (so in 2009 or 10!!). ;-)

I don't believe this world is ready for any form of enlightened thinking when you think about how much of a "dent" or impact books by Eckhart Tolle or Anthony De Mello (people who make you think out of the box and across all the "divides") or other foremost spiritual teachers actually make!! Maybe I'm just a bit of a cynic though! Most of the herd in life sleepwalk their way through it barely questioning their own place in the world let alone our place in the universe...

I always consider Stephen Spielberg's view of aliens though, as in Close Encounters, was just a little one-dimensional; it was like he equated superior "sci-fi" technology with angelic benevolence - typical archetypal imagery. It's like we impose our limited definitions on these unknown quantities.

Still, whatever "their" motives.....it's a fascinating subject.



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reply posted on 11-11-2008 @ 06:57 PM by NephraTari


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I have put together a tutorial to help people with getting an AV hosted with their member space here on ats and getting it to show. I would be happy to u2u a link to the tutorial for you

As for the sleepwalkers.. I think that is why we are needed here. To help wake them up.


*edit* seeing that you are new and do not have enough points to access your u2u's yet I will link it here.
img442.imageshack.us...

hope that helps

[edit on 11-11-2008 by NephraTari]



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reply posted on 12-11-2008 @ 05:49 PM by Lastone


Good work people etc etc...

It is a very good job people but..........

Did anyone really watch the videos ???

Look at the First video frame by frame. The secound object, the one on the right wasn't moving. It only starts moving up when the object moving from the left approaches .
The object on the RIGHT WASN'T MOVING

Maybe I'm seeing things people, but I'm very use to see this things and the secound object, the on on the right isn't a satelite.

When watching the video, keep your atention on the right side of the video. You'll see it start moving from a stopped position.

If I'm wrong about it Sorry.

Congratulations.... don't quit.




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reply posted on 14-11-2008 @ 08:56 PM by HugmyRek


Originally posted by JohnnyAnonymous
You see, while everyone else was getting their photo taken, I was already starting to keep my eye on and watching the Mountain...



Who was the prize winning photo taker, those folks with the mini digitals mentioned on night one?

I am curious to hear more about them. Were they who complained about the camp fee? Specifically, were they 2 asians and a girl??? (nudge nudge-I had a dream)

Could you explain more about the experience of the photo with the face in the orb--did you get a copy?

It is not UFOish, but, I'm interested in hearing more about the background information. Nice rig.....

Though I live up here (WA) and can climb a steep slope like an s.o.b, THAT mountain terrifys me as a 'sensitive'--so whereas I won't, has anyone else gone to check out the approximate zones where the lights in question came from?

It would be interesting to hear any feedback there.



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