AboveTopSecret.com And Robbie Williams Investigate UFOs at Gilliland Ranch, page 24
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reply posted on 25-9-2008 @ 02:33 PM by waveguide3
What is the Distance?

I'd like to clear up a point about the required brightness of a light shone from the mountainside. The estimate of several million candle power required to be seen appears to be based on the distance involved. In several posts and in the Introductory video, it's stated that Mt Adams is located some 13 miles distant.
However, in Video 3: Mountain Lights, the observing position is said to be only 'three-point-five miles' away. Is that correct, or was there an error in the commentry? This is surely a vitally important parameter in the investigation.
Are we seeing lights from 13.5 miles or from 3.5 miles away?

The distance involved is paramount to the study. Since a conventional lamp produces a cone of light, its intensity at any point drops by the square of the distance. Clearly an extra 10 miles in the equation would add a considerable difference to the calculation. Another feature of the lights I have observed, is they appear to be very directional. They seem to be very finely focussed into a narrow beam, similar to a laser for example. As many who use them will know, the hand held laser pointers have great carrying power. Even a reltively low power unit will carry a beam well over 5 miles. Some will be easily visible from 20 miles away, providing they are observed 'beam on'.

I'm not suggesting that we are seeing lasers, but any ambiguity in the distance involved will dramatically affect what type of lamp would be required to create what was seen.

WG3


reply posted on 25-9-2008 @ 03:05 PM by NephraTari
reply to post by JohnnyAnonymous



That's because he doesn't chew just bites and swallows!

J/K Crakeur but I have seen my hubby do the same thing many times.. men love steak!


reply posted on 27-9-2008 @ 10:32 AM by Crakeur
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I will neither confirm, nor deny, my shape shifting reptile lineage


reply posted on 27-9-2008 @ 11:15 AM by Crakeur
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there were no black helicpoters or cars when we were there. Johnny's extended stay was unplanned but that's not to say someone didn't call them in after the trip was extended.

you've touched on an aspect to the odd that I've mentioned on here a few times. If I don't know someone well enough, I simply cannot put blind faith in them so, when something like the cars show up, I am going to assume the worst. Johnny and I had a nice discussion on this on the interview show (our wrap up portion).

I know Johnny thru our time working together. I've met him once but I've spoken with him on the phone plenty of times and emailed with him quite a bit. I think he's about as stand up a guy as they come. I think he's honest and unbiased in his reporting on these things. So, if Johnny were to tell me "Crakeur, I was in my back yard and saw....(insert crazy story here)..and I was all alone without my film." I might be able to believe him. It might be hard but I would probably give him the benefit of the doubt, knowing his character.

If Johnny calls me up and says "crakeur, I was just at Jame's ranch with about 10 people, and James told us ...(insert crazy story)...just happened." I'm not believing it. James (or anyone else) offers an explanation that suits what he is laying claim to. Johnny (or anyone else), can be caught up in the moment and believing becomes a bit easier when you're there.


reply posted on 27-9-2008 @ 11:32 AM by Blogstalker
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That closing discussion was bascially what I was refering too. You all seem like straight up guys, but as a new member and not familiar at all with the ufo phenom, I tend to err on the side of skepticism.

I do believe I have seen spirits so I am not without an open mind.


reply posted on 27-9-2008 @ 11:42 AM by RealMckoy
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I think most of the people on here would tell you that a healthy amount of skepticism is a good thing. though I consider myself to be a believer, so to speak, I have never actually seen anything myself and am open to the possibility that I might be wrong.


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reply posted on 28-9-2008 @ 01:36 PM by ufosbri
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Quality mate You dun a great job there nice one.

Brian





reply posted on 29-9-2008 @ 05:04 PM by Alienmindflare
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I know your one of my friends but I havent read these posts since I left one near the beginning just wanna say

Hail to what you wrote and had to star it

Present = ACE
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