Originally posted by SuperSlovak
no, islam is NOT the religion of god
christianity is the religion of god

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Wow that's pretty arrogant of you Babloyi...

You think you get to decide what God demands? Where do you get the authority to decide this?

Originally posted by eyescryforALLAAH07

what i said is a pagan idea is BLOOD ATONEMENT FOR THE SALVATION OF MANKIND which is EXACTLY what paganism teaches...

and we know that the egyptians used to do this too, as have many other cults throughout history...

Originally posted by Zedda Piras


I am not a Christian but I was under the impression that Jesus chose to sacrifice Himself ? Maybe I am wrong.

Jesus did not chose to sacrifice himself nor does he has any need to, he has done his duty, that of delivering God's message to the Children of Israel, the worship of ONLY ONE GOD, which is the sole duty of the messenger according to God.

005.099 The duty of the messenger is only to convey (the message). Allah knoweth what ye proclaim and what ye hide.

014.004 And We never sent a messenger save with the language of his folk, that he might make (the message) clear for them. Then Allah sendeth whom He will astray, and guideth whom He will. He is the Mighty, the Wise.

God has never called for a human blood sacrifice at anytime in any of the Holy Scriptures revealed from the time of the first scribe Enoch until the last Prophet, Muhammad. He did ask one time our forefather Abraham to sacrifice his first-born son but only to test him, whether his love for his son is greater than his love for God. Abraham and his son both surrendered their will to God and was ready to offer the sacrifice but the Angel Gabriel stopped him after it was clear that they have both surrendered to God and ransomed the son by a ram which was sacrificed in his place.

Jesus was rejected by the Children of Israel and that was the reason they plotted to crucify him. But God saved him from the Children of Israel from death on the cross. This was testified by the Spirit of truth, the Last prophet Muhammad whom Jesus has foretold will come after him.

John 7-13

7Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

8And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:

9Of sin, because they believe not on me;

10Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

11Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.

12I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

13Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

The prophet Muhammad spoke only what he heard, what the Holy Spirit Gabriel revealed to him, and God is witness that it is the truth.

004.157 And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.

010.036 Most of them follow not but conjecture. Assuredly conjecture can by no means take the place of truth. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do.

To believe that Jesus died on the cross to save mankind is nothing but conjecture. His enemies wanted to kill him but they did not succeed. It is God's way to save the Messengers and those who believe with them, it has been since and it will be until the Day of Judgment.

005.075 The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away!

005.110 When Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Remember My favour unto thee and unto thy mother; how I strengthened thee with the holy Spirit, so that thou spakest unto mankind in the cradle as in maturity; and how I taught thee the Scripture and Wisdom and the Torah and the Gospel; and how thou didst shape of clay as it were the likeness of a bird by My permission, and didst blow upon it and it was a bird by My permission, and thou didst heal him who was born blind and the leper by My permission; and how thou didst raise the dead by My permission; and how I restrained the Children of Israel from (harming) thee when thou camest unto them with clear proofs, and those of them who disbelieved exclaimed: This is naught else than mere magic.

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Zedda animal sacrifices are the only blood sacrifices accepted by God, for thanks giving. Human blood sacrifice is practiced by idolaters and abhorred by God.

006.137 Thus have their (so-called) partners (of Allah) made the killing of their children to seem fair unto many of the idolaters, that they may ruin them and make their faith obscure for them. Had Allah willed (it otherwise), they had not done so. So leave them alone with their devices.

006.140 They are losers who besottedly have slain their children without knowledge, and have forbidden that which Allah bestowed upon them, inventing a lie against Allah. They indeed have gone astray and are not guided.

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The pilgrim to Mecca is indeed one of the duties of a Muslim if he can afford it. Circling the Kaaba seven times is not a pagan ritual but was the way Adam was instructed by God and later on Abraham and his sons and lastly the Prophet Muhammad as the way to worship God in his Holy House.

003.095 Say: Allah speaketh truth. So follow the religion of Abraham, the upright. He was not of the idolaters.

003.096 Lo! the first Sanctuary appointed for mankind was that at Becca, a blessed place, a guidance to the peoples;

003.097 Wherein are plain memorials (of Allah's guidance); the place where Abraham stood up to pray; and whosoever entereth it is safe. And pilgrimage to the House is a duty unto Allah for mankind, for him who can find a way thither. As for him who disbelieveth, (let him know that) lo! Allah is Independent of (all) creatures.

The Black Stone is not worshiped in any way, even though pilgrims from around the world touch it kiss it when they are able. This stone was first sent by God to Adam, the place where it fell was where the first house of worship was built as testified by the Holy Qu'ran.

Peace!