Actually, no. Logic of the eternal is not a point of view, opinion is. I'm implementing objective logic here, not subjective
This is all your opinion, based on your logic, as I say, we all have very different views on what is logical.
Then is what you just said above right? If we can never be right, according to your opinion, then why do you make such statements about it?
You're obviously wrong either way by default of your opinion as soon as you begin to speak about it. You refute yourself.
No I am not right, but I could be close
. My model was aimed at individuality, we are all on the path of enlightenment, it doesn't matter what you
believe, only how you implement your beliefs. The path is only as important as the journey one is on, I am on my path right now, because of my
journey, I don't know where I am going or where the path may lead, but this path feels right for me, therefore, I am on the right path
You're distraught, and I'm sorry for this. I hope you see the way clearly and that you find what's RIGHT. Empty subjective opinions do not
matter to eternity, truth does.
I think I'll be alright
are you missing the point that all this was started from your
opinion of the universe?
According to your own opinion, again, you are not right because you can't ever be.
But according to universal logic, anyway, you are still not right. The eternal one is an individual itself and at the same time it is not. It
experiences itself as an individual through creatures, yet is one essence shared by all.
As I said, I don't care if I'm right or wrong, the path is helping me develop and I like the way I'm developing, if I'm wrong at the end of my
life, it doesn't change who I was, or who I became. I agree with you on the bold
and that is what I was going on about a bit further down the
thread, the whole itself, is an experience of individuality, it is what we are heading for, or should I say 'I'.
Furthermore, anything that is singular is an individual. In-divi-dual, it takes two things to know individuality. Eternity can only be
one. As its immeasurable essence it is not an individual, or if you wish to call it an individual because it is a ONE, then it has no other eternal
one which to contrast against.
Exactly, which is why 'we' chose to split in the first place, we could compreend individuality, but not experience it, we are all one, but we are
'seperated' from the source on purpose, yet still connected.
There was no creation. Everything always has been. Eternity can not be created, it defines itself as having no beginning and no end.
I'm still pondering this one, chicken or the egg thing going on, lol. IF 'souls' of people through enlightenment and understanding, one day become
a universe unto themself, to experience the 'whole', who came first, the person who became the universe, or the universe that became the
Either way, what you say is not right, admitted by you. You will only go as far as speculation if you don't believe in truth v.s. fallacy.
When you believe that you can be right and you realize how important the truth is, you may become more pedantic and well thought out
It is all speculation to me, even when put under the guise of truth/fallacy, there are truths in this universe, but we are a long way off knowing
them, and to spout speculation as truth, slows down the progress of our entire species, science has been doing this for hundreds of years, as you are
There is no choice, that's an illusion. You say whatever we haven't already experienced, if time is eternal then we've already experienced
eternal things, that is according to your logic. Because time is never beginning from the present back, and never ending from the present forward.
This again is only your opinion and has nothing to do with the way that the universe objectively works. Individuality is experienced through
the creature, but the soul is one eternity shared. No souls, plural, are eternal as explained, only the eternal one. There is no possible way for us
to reincarnate as individual souls, this individuality is only the experience of this single creature called the Human, however this does not mean
that the energy that makes up our bodies will not be recycled into other things, as we should all know by now.
I'm not saying they're individual souls, I'm saying were all a different facet of the one entity, experiencing as much as it can, individually. The
whole trying to experience the individual and the individual trying to experience the whole.
You can only be everything there is to be if there is an finite amount of things and an infinite amount of time and also only if you are one of
many eternal individual souls that is reincarnating (already explained why this can't be), therefore you must believe that the creatures of the
universe are finite and static in genre, and thus also either not evolving or static in nature. However, if the creatures are infinite in genre and
infinitely changing in an infinite time and not repeating itself exactly the same way twice, then it is impossible for an eternal individual soul to
(my italics, helping me think, lol)
This is interesting and I will be giving it some thought, but maybe it's aspiration, afterall, using my model, the universe, at some point was like
me, yet it still split itself again, once it had 'ascended', maybe it realised that at a certain point, you have 'ascend' to experience the rest?
good point though
A ratio of eternal time subsequent to a finite amount of things will eventuate into the conclusion that you present above, however, as with
time, space too is eternal. Therefore the things to be are infinite. Your consciousness that you experience right now is only a result of receiving
the 5 senses of the individual creature's body that you experience yourself as. You are not an eternal, yet finite being, but you are sharing the
eternal soul as a finite creature.
You seem to be seperating 'me' from 'me'. This vessel I am currently incarnated in, is me, but only a reflection (or refraction?) of me. These 5
senses, are my way of interacting with this physical embodiment and in no way consitutes me, only a means of monitoring/experiencing my