What you two are speaking about is basic human rights.

Though, not so plainly stated by any official document, the mainstream view of the court of justice tends to look at one person's right to do something concluding when it impinges upon the rights of another individual.

In this case: Alex Jones' right to free speech impinging upon other's right to peaceful assembly.

There's no real definitive answer for who is right and who is wrong here.

I'd say the tactics of shouting and in your face journalism employed by AJ are quite good. He looks like he's very annoying to "them" and sometimes it achieves the desired effect; the interviewee let's slip a piece of information that they shouldn't.

Shouting over someone is not nice, but sometimes necessary in certain situations, usually to save time on the part of the shouter.

As far as getting beaten up by bodyguards, AJ knows it's the job, and sometimes that's what's going to happen.

I honestly thought he was beaten regularly, he is very in your face, this was no surprise to me!

[edit on 9-9-2008 by Sendran]

Nothing wrong with some bully tactics if it gets the job done. There are better ways to do it.
If it works then why not do it.

It seriously boggles the mind, that a large populus of americans, still keeps swallowing the spoonfed bulls..., pouring out of the White House via the Bush/Cheney neocons buddies, who owns the media.

I can't for the life of me, not understand why the young americans, at colleges and univercities dosen't join forces nationwide. Fight at grassroot level, to keep their liberties promised them in the U.S Constitution. The apathy is so thick, you can cut it with a knife.

How big does the bullhorn need to be, before the sleeping minds will awake. Is it too late to fight the machine.? Listening to Bush Jr. is sound like everything is put in place, for the take over that without a doubt will come.

God bless us all.

I was wondering what MSNBC was going to do with the "Jones situation". I honestly thought they were going to be forced to go to a studio format. It must have been hard to do interviews up there with Alex blasting away in the background. I didn't think they would stoop to cutting his wires though. Something had to give in the situation, MSNBC made a bad choice.

Please, someone needs to tell Alex 'NWO cholesterol' Jones to stop with the “9/11 was an inside jooOOOoob!”

Not the blanket statement 9/11 was an inside job… but the WAY HE SAYS IT…like a little pansy, crybaby, whiny of a kid tattle telling on his/her brother/sister.

Wah! “9/11 was an inside jooOOOoob!” Wah!

Wah! “9/11 was an inside jooOOOoob!” Wah!

Wah! “9/11 was an inside jooOOOoob!” Wah!

Wah! “9/11 was an inside jooOOOoob!” Wah!

Speak like a man!!! Stop with the tattle-tale way of saying “9/11 was an inside jooOOOoob!…the inflections he presents undermine his blanket statement.

[edit on 10-9-2008 by AntisepticSkeptic]

AJ makes some serious allegations at these rallies. "9-11 was an inside job!", repeated over and over through a loud haler. What next, burning effigies of Bush and others?

If AJ is correct, then the world needs to know, but his methods are a little militant and somewhat useless and counter-productive in today's world. Things aren't done like that in civilised society, people have been trying these tactics for years, it gets them nowhere.

He/we/whoever needs to collate all the evidence and follow protocol in such matters. I don't know what that procedure would be, paranoia creeps in here and says that any case would disappear faster than the Earth after the LHC switch on (joke) but shouting about it definitely won't achieve anything.

I would like to know why nobody ever sues him for defamation. If I was accused of perpetrating 9-11, I would want my name cleared, irrelevant of AJ's following or public opinion. It doesn't matter how many people listen to him, he's accusing them of some serious crimes.

I think he's in the know, but I think he's a publicity merchant as well. He does more harm than good. He hardly takes a breath.

reply to Mach Shadows

Bully tactics are never a good idea, I think you may mean something else though, like when people try to help at a disaster scene and the authorities keep them back. It's better that way, no arguments, let the experts do their job, get in the way, you're nicked. Sometimes it needs to be that way.

This raises interesting issues. When does one person's first amendment rights of free speech impose on another person's first amendment rights of free speech? When are permits required for such demostrations? I'd like to hear whether Alex Jones was breaking the law or not.

[edit on 9/10/2008 by Matrix1111]

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984

Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
What a moron. Alex Jones is no better than those lunatics at the funerals of dead soldiers screaming "God hates fags". There's a time and place for everything.

Erm isn't the USa based on the idea of freedom and free speech? If you start saying that there is a time and place for everything then you end up slowly eroding the idea of free speech. You'll end up with having no places to speak other than registered "free speech zones". the idea of a free speech zone is in itself a contradiction, but at the moment you have the right to speak in many places. Be very careful with your time and a place arguement, otherwise before long you will have plenty of time but only a few places to say what you think.

Rights are guaranteed by the government not a corporation like GE that owns NBC. NBC is under no obligation to allow one of their programs to be hijacked by a twit with a bullhorn. Also think about the fact that MSNBC operates with a license granted by the FCC and if someone does something to violate their rules then MSNBC would be held responsible.

I don't like Alex's presentation style personally,but if it sells,gets attention and gets the important stories out to the mainstream then good luck to the guy.

He can do the American wrestler smack down style all he wants,he's got big stone cahonas to back it up.(if he isn't really spreading disinfo..CT in me )

If he's provoking very public reactions like in this story,then you gotta wonder if he's hitting raw nerves with the PTB..
Good for him.

Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
What a moron. Alex Jones is no better than those lunatics at the funerals of dead soldiers screaming "God hates fags". There's a time and place for everything.

I think he uses the time and place perfectly. What better way to reach the masses that are lied to, by storming a stupid campaign where the people who believe this lie gather? You think they'll go looking for the truth?

I'm not saying MSNBC is all that great but the fact remains that they're paying 10s of thousands of dollars to broadcast that and Alex Jones is essentially committing grand theft by bull horning over them.

This is true.

He's being intentionally malicious and that's unacceptable. How does he expect to get any respect in the main stream when he's only serving to vilify himself as a lunatic?

Not so. It is acceptable. These liars sit in their chairs...lie to the public, call the people who speak the truth crazy and attempt to control the mass populace...that's unacceptable. When you support, whether knowingly or now, an organization who has killed millions of people and lie to their own country about it...the word "acceptable" goes out the window. Any truth speaker has the right, human right, to crash anything they do and expose them. If he can persuade just one of the people in the public to research the facts...he has made a difference.

And please, do not bring up the words "mainstream media" and "respect". The mainstream media has no respect. The mainstream media are puppets and also help spread the lie. They never respected Alex, and Alex never respected them. MSNBC is one of the better news sources out there, but Alex Jones is a man who takes things a little far. He has always been. He's not doing this to gain anyone's respect. He doesn't want their respect. His attempt is not to reach them, because most of them are owned by the corrupt elitist. His attempt is to reach the people being lied to...and he does reach them.

The people that think behavior like this is "cool" are frankly brainwashed by Jones and are so far removed from reality it's mind boggling.

You're entitled to that opinion.

How do you think Jones would react if a group of rival lunatics stood behind him while he tried to broadcast over the radio and bullhorned "JONES IS A FRAUD" over and over and over? Hey it's free speech right? Public property right? Yeah, sure, he'd probably call the police and have them relocate him to a safe house.

Well, Jones is a mad man, I can give you that. He does some crazy sh!t sometimes. But fact remains, this dude speaks facts and has the evidence to back it up. Alex Jones is not a corrupt President, he is a wacky journalist who seems to be hellbent on foiling the plans of corrupt media & corrupt politics. In my eyes, these liars have no rights...at all. The only right they have to me, is to remove themselves from this planet, as they contribute nothing to it. They make the world a terrible place to live in. If Alex was attacked like how he attacks them...the only difference would be, that...Alex tries to bring the truth...and they try to spread lies. I don't know about you, but in reality...the truth has more right and substance than lies. It deserves to be told. And if it takes crashing these liars' campaigns...then so be it. That's not very unacceptable if you ask me...I can think of worse ways to irritate these liars.

[edit on 12-9-2008 by sdrawkcabII]