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reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:34 PM by ANoNyMiKE
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
You missed the point of my post. I never said it should be illegal, it's about not being an ahole. By doing this he's just making himself look childish and malicious. If anything, he lost the respect of the average individual, not his sheep, but people who were maybe considering what he was saying.


No i'm afraid you missed the point of the constitution. You have the right to be an ahole as long as you don't hurt anyone else. You have the right to be childish, you have the right to be malicious as long as you don't cause physical harm. YUou also have the right to lose the respect of anyone you want.

Basically he has the right to do whatever he wants with his bullhorn as long as he doesn't try to insert it in someone. Also as that bullhorn is his property he has the right not to have it damaged by another private citizen.

Read the constitution, i'm a damn foreigner and i've read it.


And you're still missing my point. Yes, he can bull horn till he turns blue and he can say damn well whatever he wants. My point is that the way in which he is currently going about trying to get his message across is in fact being detrimental to his cause.

There's nothing illegal about standing outside a funeral and saying "God hates fags", but do you really believe that it's helping their cause to do something like that? Is it really the most intelligent way to convey their message? No, of course not, they look foolish, childish and hateful.

Like I said, the people that already follow him will stand up and say "YEAH ALEX WAY TO STICK IT TO THE MAN!" for being a jack ass on TV.
But the average guy, who doesn't know who Alex Jones is, even if he questions 9/11, will think, "Wow, what a childish moron, how would he like it if someone crapped all over what he was trying to say, on his dime?!".

He's not earning anyone's respect with his current methods, only making new enemies that he doesn't need and portraying himself as an immature bafoon. Can he be an immature bafoon in public? Yes, he can. Does it serve his cause well? Uh, no it doesn't. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 08:56 PM by ImaginaryReality1984
Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
And you're still missing my point. Yes, he can bull horn till he turns blue and he can say damn well whatever he wants. My point is that the way in which he is currently going about trying to get his message across is in fact being detrimental to his cause.


That is his right.

Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
There's nothing illegal about standing outside a funeral and saying "God hates fags", but do you really believe that it's helping their cause to do something like that? Is it really the most intelligent way to convey their message? No, of course not, they look foolish, childish and hateful.


I hate the group you're on about, but they have their free speech and we have ours.

Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
Like I said, the people that already follow him will stand up and say "YEAH ALEX WAY TO STICK IT TO THE MAN!" for being a jack ass on TV.
But the average guy, who doesn't know who Alex Jones is, even if he questions 9/11, will think, "Wow, what a childish moron, how would he like it if someone crapped all over what he was trying to say, on his dime?!".


You consider him a jackass and others will consider him a hero. People have to make up their own opinions.

Originally posted by ANoNyMiKE
He's not earning anyone's respect with his current methods, only making new enemies that he doesn't need and portraying himself as an immature bafoon. Can he be an immature bafoon in public? Yes, he can. Does it serve his cause well? Uh, no it doesn't. Just because you CAN do something, doesn't mean you should.


He doesn't seem like he wants to earn anyones respect. He only seems to want to promote what he considers the truth. He is going about it the best way he thinks. However this thread isn't about what he should do, it was abut whats happened so maybe you want to keep it on topic

That topic being his ability to speak freely without his bullhorn being cut off.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 01:48 AM by SonicInfinity
reply to post by Rory27



You're saying Alex is using "Kindergarten tactics", yet the way you're typing isn't exactly "high school-ish", unless you're foreign, and if you are, I apologize.

Yes, people have a right to free speech as well, just like in some other video when they were yelling "Obama" over Alex's "9/11 was an inside job". Both have the right to do that, and lawfully, nothing can be done about it.


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 07:16 AM by AntisepticSkeptic





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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 09:33 AM by jsobecky
reply to post by Mintwithahole.



I think this line from the article sums it up:

a group of 9/11 truthers led by Alex Jones during the takeover of a live broadcast at the DNC in Denver.


Alex Jones was preventing others from exercising their right to free speech. This is not the way to do things in America; it is more of a Nazi tactic to shut other voices up by force.

Chris Matthews was right when he referred to AJ and his thugs as "A bunch of screwballs".


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 10:14 AM by tyranny22
10 of the first 12 post had nothing to do with the topic at hand. It looked like it was more of a chat room discussion than a topic thread.

This isn't high school. If you have nothing to contribute to the thread ... don't post.

Now, on to the topic at hand:

Alex Jones is defeating himself. He's acting in a childish manner and I highly doubt if he actually wants to accomplish anything with his efforts.

If he really wanted to get the word out on 9/11 being an inside job he's going to have to learn to play by their rules. Start a community forum during major events such as the RNC or DNC.

The only thing he accomplished with these antics is annoying Average Joe and establishing a biased mind next time the topic of 9/11 comes up to these people. I don't see how this accomplished anything in the favor of those wanting to get more exposure to the topic of 9/11.

Ron Paul recently held a Rally for the Republic and CSPAN covered the entire Rally. He didn't try to disrupt the RNC with a megaphone and childish antics because he knew it would diminish his cause.

Next time there's a political debate in a predetermined city ... maybe he should organize some intellectual minds (engineers, scholars, eye witnesses) in a open city forum so that average citizens may attend and learn more about the events of 9/11 that raise major concerns.

I guarantee he'll accomplish more with this method than he will with a megaphone yelling at a crowd of onlookers. I know it's his trademark ... but, come on.

[edit on 9-9-2008 by tyranny22]


reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 12:17 PM by Wildbob77
reply to post by Mach Shadows




So, if Alex Jones were holding a press conference you would then also support people who disagree with his viewpoint to come to that press conference and shout into bull horn things like "911 was carried out by Islamic Extremist!"

My opinion is that Alex Jones, nor anyone else, has the right to disrupt a press conference with bull horns.

For goodness sake, hold your own press conference.
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