Are Obama's ideas really that cool?

Originally posted by they see ALL
Are Obama's ideas really that cool?

What ideas????

All he does is copy Jimmy Carterisms and he spews Marxist rhetoric. Neither is an 'idea'. It's recycling the old - bad for America but sounds great - garbage.

Well ... I guess it looks like he DOES recycle somethings ... doesn't it? Recycled 'ideas'. (aka - old notions)

reply to post by Quazga

Originally posted by Quazga
All I know is this.


I would vote for Obama regardless of what party he ran for.

Why?

I am very inspired by him. He is thoughtful and nuanced.

"Nuanced" is one of my major problems with Obama. "Nuanced" is a double-edged sword.

Obama uses nuance to hide his vagaries and uncertainty. He uses it at an excuse for his flip-flopping. When challenged, he always duh duh duh's his way into saying he was misinterpreted.

This is why he appeals to the young and the inexperienced. All sizzle and no steak.

Give me the Straight Talk Express any day!

Originally posted by jsobecky
Joe Biden is known as "The Senator of the MNBA".

I googled that phrase and got ZERO results. So I guess he's known as "The Senator of the MNBA" by you alone.

All candidates are in favor of alternative fuels;

Hmmm... I wonder, then, why McCain is only rated 17% by the CAF, indicating opposition to energy independence. (Dec 2006)

Obama is rated 100% by the CAF, indicating support for energy independence. (Dec 2006)

He wants us to sacrifice.
We are not going to be able to eat as much as we want to.
We are not going to be able to drive the cars that we want.
We have go into forced labor for the state.
Chairman Mao, re-incarnated.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


They have to be some sort of partisan group. How can you be energy independent, if you don't vigorously drill for oil? Unless Obama and CAF know about some new magical energy source and infrastructure we don't know about?

I just looked them up and sure enough, its a partisan group.

en.wikipedia.org...

Campaign for America's Future (CAF) is an American political organization of progressives. Its main issues of concern include the environment, energy independence, health care reform, Social Security, and education. The Nation editor Katrina vanden Heuvel, AFL-CIO president John Sweeney, and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa serve on its board of directors.

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Senator of the MBNA.

www.accuracy.org...

reply to post by TheOracle


listen i dont care what you feel Obama is not what you think he is or says he is.

he is not telling the truth and his policies are socialism

this raise the taxes on the poor and give tax cuts to the rich is a huge ffffing wtf lie ok

that is not what happens

alslo obama wants blacks and whites to have different sentence guidelines where a black person gets less time for a crime becuase of slavery and the courts and cops are racist.

he doesnt care about women or freedom of speach he is a socialist where is hillary she should be on the ticket.

get over the over emotional obamaism he sucks he is a 100% gimmic to get the socialist into office.

dont believe what obama says about the right and mccain do your own research

Originally posted by airborne82ndscout
He does not have original ideas and he is not going to change anything he is a fraud and made up candidate propped up by the left.
He does not have original ideas and he is not going to change anything he is a fraud and made up candidate propped up by the left.

You had me at He...

I think and this just my opinion that both obama and mccain are liars and are saying what ever they can to get your vote... same as bush and any other big runner.....

Vote for Ron Paul and help start the revolution!!

Getting Senator MBNA instead of Hillary has to be one of the coolest idea in history.

I am sure that Bank of America (who took over MBNA) is proud of their Senator.

Originally posted by jam321
I am sure that Bank of America (who took over MBNA) is proud of their Senator.

I'm sure you're right, but then I haven't rented Manchurian Candidate yet.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go spend 5 years butt up in a Tiger Cage.

reply to post by they see ALL


Good questions...

Unfortunately, nobody can answer them. I haven't seen one single idea coming out of Obama's mouth, all I've heard are sound bites, and catch words. What, in political science is called "word bombs", and, was generally applied by radical NGO groups.

Since the other side hasn't been prodigal with ideas, I understand your dilemma. Do what people usually do in elections, vote for the guy that looks better on TV

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Vote for him because he's actually adressing the issues that are important to the American people. Bush/McCain only adress the issues that are important to the shady mega corps that ship jobs overseas and only care about profit and mega rich people.


It's not about the person Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin. It's about what's important to you. It's a class issue. If you earn more than 5 million USD per year, yeah maybe you should vote for McCain. If not, it's in your best interest to vote for Obama that will cut taxes for 95 percent of the people (but not for corps like exxon mobile and Haliburton)!





[edit on 8-9-2008 by Shades1035]

Originally posted by Shades1035
Vote for him because he's actually adressing the issues that are important to the American people.

Such as?

Bush/McCain only adress the issues that are important to the shady mega corps that ship jobs overseas and only care about profit and mega rich people.

Manufacturing is not what makes America rich. The US dominates as an information technology based economy. That is where most first world nations get most of their wealth.

Obama has ideas that are not original, or very well thought out. They are the failed policy's of the 70's, that is not change, but rather a return to several failed policy's.

It's not about the person Obama, McCain, Biden or Palin. It's about what's important to you. It's a class issue. If you earn more than 5 million USD per year, yeah maybe you should vote for McCain.

You are taking a biased approach here in mentioning an exaggerated quote by the left.

If not, it's in your best interest to vote for Obama that will cut taxes for 95 percent of the people (but not for corps like exxon mobile and Haliburton)!

This is where you need to tread lightly, all these "horrible" corporations will simply pass the tax onto the consumer, being we are a nations of consumers, which really means that 95% of the population will be taxed.

Newsflash - Bush isn't running in this election. Is McCain so good that your whole campaign is based on running against Bush the lame and trying to project that John McCain and George Bush are the same man? LOL


I can barely find a post around here that doesn't mention Bush. He ain't running this time kiddies.

I would like to reiterate what Obama said it his latest speech this campaign isnt about Obama or McCain, they will both be fine regardless of what happens, it is about YOU and YOUR future. Some people think that by voting for McCain to prevent an Obama presidency they are helping themselves, this is blatantly false and ignorant, because the truth is McCain and Obama have clear differences. I would have thought that after 8 yrs of G. W Bush and this disastrous administration we would know better and be able to vote with a clear conscience rather that allow our fears to misguide us. The truth is IMO Obama may not have as much experience in Washington as say John McCain or G W. Bush but a we have seen in the past 8 yrs presidency is not always about experience, an is not an accurate gauge of a good president, it is about judgment, intellect and character. Obama has all these traits and he wants to serve and help us better ourselves, aside from polices he has an ability to pull together large groups in a positive way this is what the world needs, this is what we need, this is part of the change that he promises not just policy but also presence and insight, it saddens me that people seem to want to pass up an opportunity to elect what could be a truly inspirational leader and an excellent president. But in the end both of these candidates will be fine, the question is did you look in the mirror and figure out who best aligns with your views, and are you voting out of fear, or with an unbiased, clear conscience.

I urge you all to educate yourselves quickly there is too much at stake in this election.

P.E.A.C.E (Positive Energy Activates Constant Elevaton)

reply to post by TheOracle


Mr. Obama is incredibly weak on national defense. Additionally, the below video shows in perfect terms, how naive Mr. Obama is to the real world. It is not as peaceful and forgiving as he seems to mistakenly think.



I am sure terrorist are absolutely "giddy" about Obama. I for one, am not.


"I will slow the progressions of Future combat systems" - Obama

And to whos advantage? Ours, or our enemys?

[edit on 8-9-2008 by West Coast]

Most Americans are blind fools and if they aren't fools they are truly evil.
It is unbelievable to see how many blind fools are going to vote for a professional murderer, or to see stadiums full of fools cheering for a professional murderer, that committed crimes against humanity. You can't do that to humanity, that is why I can never vote for a man like him. They are using the fact that MCcain killed people to try to win your vote. All the solutions they fool you with is based on adding more evil actions on top of evil actions. If you love MCcain you are either evil or blind.

His goal to get rid of all U.S. nuclear weapons isn't cool.

Are you evil, stupid or both?

His goal to cut back spending on advanced weapons isn't cool.

Are you evil, stupid or both?

His goal to not have any U.S. weapons in space isn't cool since China is already doing it.

Are you evil, stupid or both?

What Bush and his friends did is create evil problems, and offer us a solution to the evil problem that they created. Their solution to evil problems is: We need an evil leader ("Which match the times"), with evil experience, with more evil weapons and more evil techniques to "defeat" evil. In other words they are trying to fool us with a solution that tries to wash away blood with more blood. All the solutions they offer us is based on adding more evil actions on top of evil actions.

Obama is way cooler than MCcain in all aspects. If you can't see how cool he is then you are blind.

[edit on 8-9-2008 by vatoloko]

reply to post by SectionEight


Actually, for a politician he has been very detailed. Look on his website, there are pages and pages of very very detailed plans.

Of course it's easy to say "He doesn't day how..." and that's because you never took the time to listen or to look for yourself.

www.barackobama.com...

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OMG!!!! We agree?!?!?!?

I agree with every thing you wrote..... what happened? Did I wake up in the Twilight Zone.

-Euclid