Olbermann and Matthews dismissed as election anchors, page 3

reply to post by Dronetek

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Does Fox not bother you then? I mean they're chalk full of McCain "shills". Hell, everyone on the network repeats the mantra that if you're not a card carrying member of the GOP you hate America, want to lose the war, and should be tried for treason.

Oh, has anyone ever figured out what it actually means to "win" the war in Iraq, as they're so fond of saying on Fox?

reply to post by Unit541

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O'Reilley is what he is, Matthews/Olbermann are what they are....the problem IMHO, is that TRUE journalism in America is DEAD!!

reply to post by Anonymous ATS

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Not Dead but truly an endangered species. Tom Brokaw is probably the best at reporting events without giving you his own opinion of the events. He is a class act as was Tim Russert.

I am new here. Hello. This is not overly complicated folks. I'm a 20 year old and while I am no wiz, I can see the reasoning for the change. McCain is winning in today's Gallop. Everyone knows that the Media is hurting Obama more than they are helping. And the libs are frantically trying to fix the problem, which they will fail to do. McCain won this election because of MSNBC, CNN, the treatment of Hillary, I could go on. The Libs couldn't help themselves. Now people like Matthews and Keith get the # you treatment. What have you done for us lately? NADA! I am shocked that the *snip* is getting her own time slot at 9, Maddow. That's really going to help The Messiah, *sarcasm*

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reply to post by centurion1211

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Follow the money. Their ratings were in the tank. They have entire twenty four hour periods where they have less viewers than Fox has in one program. Like I said, follow the money.

They don't give a crap if their shows are left or right. They do care if it makes money. Far Left is a money looser. Even most Democrats are not Far Left.

For me, I watch CNN and Fox equally to get the story from both sides, but I never watch MSNBC because of the low quality of reporting and commentary.

The Left wants nothing but Left Wing reporting and the Right wants nothing but Right Wing reporting. The intelligent want to hear both sides and the middle. Those who only listen to one side are handicapped and information challenged.

By immersing yourself in information from one side and only one side, you become the sheep you are so fond of accusing others of being.

The Producers at MSNBC care about one thing, so their job is easy. The ratings are bad, so they clean house.

I just polled my office for kicks and giggles. 7 people here today. 4 watch CNN mostly. 2 watch Fox mostly. I watch them both about equal. Nobody watches MSNBC.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by centurion1211

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By immersing yourself in information from one side and only one side, you become the sheep you are so fond of accusing others of being.

No... by continuing to reinforce the idea that there are only two sides, you become the sheep you are so fond of accusing others of being.

By "picking a side" it gives people the illusion that they made a choice and are participating. It works the same way in sports. People have their favorite teams, root against each other, get excited and feel like they're a part of it. They get so into it you would think they are out there on the field playing on one of the teams! Obviously they aren't, and it is the same way with politics. You pick Democrat or Republican, you watch them on TV, you pick up some buzz words from the talking heads on TV and you feel like you actually know what is going on. Sadly you are never really a part of it, merely a spectator rooting for either side.

reply to post by northof8

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More like "We screwed ourselves because we couldn't keep our mouths shut and let the right hang itself"!!

Bias is part of the main stream media and both sides have their outlets that appeal to our ideals, be they what they are. When I step back and look at what's happening, it's clear the divide and conquer concept is in play.

An old concept but used through out history. Most religion is based in the "us and them" ideology. Think like us and your "saved", think like them and your "damned".

So will this election come down to less than 1% of the vote again? When will we get to vote for someone 70% of the people want as POTUS?

reply to post by Unit541

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I consider myself neither a Rebublican nor a Democrats because it is all a big farce. Given time, Democracies morph into Oligarchies.
I mean Bush and Kerry are both Skull and bones and claim different sides of the aisle! ... HA!

Anyhow,
O'reilly does not have to tell me he is an entertainer. I can use my common sense to figure that one out. See, I never turn him on to get my news. I only turn him on to be entertained. Olberman is just plain sickening to try and stomach. He and other Obama sympathizers did their 'party' a dis-service during their nomination process.

Hilary would have whipped the old man hands down and Palin wouldn't be stealing the spotlight from their boy.

In this day in time you cannot rely on any one source for news. You must take it in from all sides and then decipher with your own mind what is right and wrong.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
TRUE journalism in America is DEAD!!

EXACTLY!

Get used to Left/Right - Democrat/Republican - Liberal/Conservative networks cause that's the wave of the future.

Along with deregulation of the broadcast industry and rampant conglomerate mergers comes special interest, agenda driven programming (thanks a lot Michael Powell). If you want an unbiased media maybe you should put down the mouse, pick up a pen, write Congress and tell them you want the Telecommunications Act of 1996 repealed.

Otherwise ... get used to it.

Not to beat a dead horse, but at least someone in the industry is speaking out:

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