How about this layout in China?

Phage do you want a cookie or something lol
anyway Egyptians 1000 years ago did not have the technology we have today
and yet they managed to build the pyramids anyway
They're not EXACT with the Orion belt

But pretty dam close for a thousand year old civilization.

Originally posted by SuperSlovak

anyway Egyptians 1000 years ago did not have the technology we have today
and yet they managed to build the pyramids anyway

Wow, just wow!
I was so sure that the pyramids were older than that!
Thanks for clearing that up for me.

What is the catchcry of this site?

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
Phage do you want a cookie or something lol
anyway Egyptians 1000 years ago did not have the technology we have today
and yet they managed to build the pyramids anyway
They're not EXACT with the Orion belt

But pretty dam close for a thousand year old civilization.

Mars pyramids identical to earth pyramids!

I didn't say anything about Orion. Your source compares the layout of the pyramids in Egypt to the hills of Cydonia.

That could suggest they were both built from the same source...

Except that the layouts don't match.

Chocolate chip please!

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
I have to admit after surviving millions of years of mars dust storms the cydonia pyramids are not so triangular as they used to be,
But they do resemble a pyramid.

millions of years! So easy to throw just a number into a post

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
Phage do you want a cookie or something lol
anyway Egyptians 1000 years ago did not have the technology we have today
and yet they managed to build the pyramids anyway
They're not EXACT with the Orion belt

But pretty dam close for a thousand year old civilization.

I see you never have read anything about the (ancient) egyptians, how stars move into the time (hint), the actual age of the pyramids...etc...

Greetings Lunica

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
I have to admit after surviving millions of years of mars dust storms the cydonia pyramids are not so triangular as they used to be,
But they do resemble a pyramid.

But the same can be said of hundreds of hills on Earth .... so it's not really a very valid argument.

The only way to prove it of course is to go there and find direct evidence of construction.

Wow thats remarkable research, I believe theres some correlation between both mars and earth, nasa's current photo looks like a fractal created with geofrac or some other terrain generator... its merly a mismatch when compared to original landscapes of the same area...

Good work!

Originally posted by Lunica
I see you never have read anything about the (ancient) egyptians, how stars move into the time (hint), the actual age of the pyramids...etc...

Oh come now... you don't ACTUALLY expect skeptics to READ do you? Heck if they did that they might learn something and actually know what they are talking about

Now how about looking at that group of Chinese pyramids? Seems they look very similar in alignment

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Originally posted by Nohup
Oh, and here's another little thing. The ancient Egyptians deserve a lot of credit for organizing themselves enough to build the Pyramids, but let's not give them any more credit than they are due. As for them being incredibly accurate with their representation of Orion, this composite photo shows that they were either less accurate than you might think, the aliens were less help than previously thought, or maybe the whole arrangement is just a vague, lucky coincidence:

The Egyptian pyramids are actually a mirrored version of Orion's belt as it appeared in our night sky around 10,500 BC. (This is part of the great debacle in which the actual age of the pyramids is not fully understood)

Look outside the box, and you'll realize that those stars are still moving today. So yes, after 12,500 years, they should not be in the same position in our night sky.

As for those who are super imposing images on top of each other and saying they don't line up. What height ratio are you using?

Do you know the relative size of the terrain in relation to the height the photo was taken? Or are you nabbing the first pic you find on the net and just topping it on the other??

Very sloppy attempts on both sides to prove which is which. Both sides need to take a step back and put a bit more effort into this one

Originally posted by Triton1128

As for those who are super imposing images on top of each other and saying they don't line up. What height ratio are you using?

Do you know the relative size of the terrain in relation to the height the photo was taken? Or are you nabbing the first pic you find on the net and just topping it on the other??

Very sloppy attempts on both sides to prove which is which. Both sides need to take a step back and put a bit more effort into this one

I'm not trying to prove anything. Just showing that Giza and the Hills of Cydonia do not show the same layout. As I said, I did resize the Giza photo in order to try to match at least two of the pyramids with two of the hills. The relative positions of the pyramids did not change with resizing. Since I was working with relative positions, neither the absolute size of the area nor the elevation of the viewpoint matter. The purpose was to show that the relative positions of the hills does not match the relative positions of the pyramids.

Hoagland et al selectively use "precise" alignments when convenient and ignore the mismatches. If the pyramids and the hills of Cydonia are based on the same layout, where are Hoagland's calculations that show it? Instead, we get an aerial view of the pyramids (inverted) laid next to an aerial view of Cydonia, a vague implication that the layout is the same. All I did was put one on top of the other to show that they are not the same, or even close.

Originally posted by C.H.U.D.
Thanks for sharing, but have you also checked to see what the relationship of the stars was to each other at the time that the pyramids were built?

I think it would be only fair, considering you are basing your judgment on how the stars look today

Well, since you have presented the case that the stars may have moved significantly since the pyramids were built, why don't you present the evidence to show that? I don't think the stars have probably moved that much since then. Or do you want me to do all the work?

OK, but as I stated before. Your alignment would ONLY match, if the pyramids on mars, were built at the same time as the pyramids on Earth.

See what I'm saying?

Who's to say that the pyramids on mars (If they are in fact that) were not built to reflect Orion 50,000 years ago.. Or maybe 200,000+ years ago.

Your defense is they don't line up with pyramids built 12,500 years ago..

Of course they're not going to line up...

Originally posted by Nohup


Well, since you have presented the case that the stars may have moved significantly since the pyramids were built, why don't you present the evidence to show that? I don't think the stars have probably moved that much since then. Or do you want me to do all the work?

On the first day of Spring in the epoch of 10,500 BC, the Sphinx (a Lion), faced the constellation Leo, (also a Lion) as it rose with the sun at dawn on the Vernal Equinox. The Pyramids themselves are also aligned with Orion's Belt only as it appeared in the sky in that era while the Milky Way coincidentally lines up with the River Nile, adjacent to the site.

Do you not watch the discovery channel?

Originally posted by Spock Shock
Wow thats remarkable research, I believe theres some correlation between both mars and earth, nasa's current photo looks like a fractal created with geofrac or some other terrain generator... its merly a mismatch when compared to original landscapes of the same area...

Good work!

Hey there Spock shock
Hows that vulcan nerve pinch servin ya
Yea common knowledge about NASA having sets created to replicate the surface of the moon in the 60/70’s ..don’t think they could see the surface of Mars then..maybe not. ..but these guys, hoagland/lear/corso/greer/cooperx2/ etc you get my drift. Folks

Defo lots more info hiding away there. God I wish I had a real crystal ball LOL

Peace all
Kirky

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
fast and loose? not really... my allignments were made by a mathematical professor studying the cydonia region for years
yours could have been made by a 2 year old

Here's what I mean. Why did this math professor select the points he did? The ones I have pointed out in green? Why, for instance, did he select a seemingly random point roughly but arguably not exactly in the middle of the cluster of "pyramids" in the upper left corner of the image? There's no feature there.



And he did it with a lot of things. The lower right hand corner of the "face" feature, for instance. Why select that point and not something more obvious, like the eyes? And we know now (see other photos above) that the "D&M Pyramid" doesn't have one sharp point on the top, but rather a worn line that doesn't result in a regular pyramid at all. The line on the D&M Pyramid that points to the Face is really off. If you use an accurate line coming from where the real ridge is (see my previous image), it doesn't intersect the Face at all!

Well, the guy selected those points because they fit in with his theory. If you line up (or try to line up) the actual features, they don't have any good alignments. So he had to fudge the measurements with thick lines and strangely selected points. And you can say that he's allowing for erosion, he still has to justify his determination of where he thinks the lines or features originally were. Which he never does.

I don't personally care if he's a mathematician or not. That's just sloppy geometry.

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Originally posted by Triton1128
OK, but as I stated before. Your alignment would ONLY match, if the pyramids on mars, were built at the same time as the pyramids on Earth.

See what I'm saying?

Who's to say that the pyramids on mars (If they are in fact that) were not built to reflect Orion 50,000 years ago.. Or maybe 200,000+ years ago.

Your defense is they don't line up with pyramids built 12,500 years ago..

Of course they're not going to line up...

It is not my defense. I am not defending anything. It is the contention of the OP:

Mars pyramids identical to earth pyramids!

No, they aren't.

I have not said anything about Orion. But if you want to prove that positions of the hills of Cydonia match the positions which Alnitak, Alnilam, and Mintaka held at some point in the past, be my guest. It would be an interesting coincidence.



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