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Originally posted by avingard
So should we be over there? No, but we are, and we are now obligated to at least give the Iraqis a 'fighting' chance at not collapsing into civil war. If we pull out right now, there chances aren't too great.
Originally posted by zysin5
Originally posted by avingard
So should we be over there? No, but we are, and we are now obligated to at least give the Iraqis a 'fighting' chance at not collapsing into civil war. If we pull out right now, there chances aren't too great.
I will go ahead and take this little part here and ask you a question.
Did you know we never went there to promote freedom right?
We are over there to create a civil war of types. S.H kept them in line, and S.H was our boy. Thats right S.H was one of our dogs.
So many lies you are fed, and you seem to just go with what you are told.
When did people forget to research and find their own answers?
Most supports just go with what they are told, and they sit back and repeat over and over again. The same spoon fed lies you are told, comes right back out your mouth.
Originally posted by LostNemesis
Do you believe that we NEEDED to invade and occupy Iraq for all these years to protect us?
Do you honestly beleive that if we don't go invading Muslim countries, that you and your family are in the sincere danger Bush refered to when wanting to invade Iraq?(ie the giant poster of a mushroom cloud behind him when giving the reasons we needed to take out Saddam)
As another theory to why you support this endless, perpetual war, do you believe that Government Defense Contracts are the only thing that can keep our economy alive?
Utter tripe there. You are framing the whole discussion in a very biased light IMO.
Another... Do you support one current candidate over another because they can promise you more war?
Is it possible you believe that we NEED oil to keep our country alive, and that we need to secure oil as a best interest, maybe THAT is why you believe we need to invade countries?
Originally posted by LostNemesis
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I don't know if Saddam Hussein was our guy, or not. There's been a lot of people to say the US put him into power. I just don't know. If he WAS put there by us, that's one of the things that makes the whole thing a little suspicious in my opinion. All I can think is maybe he pissed the CIA dudes off somehow. Maybe threatened to expose something he wasn't supposed to, or refused to work with CIA when they thought he owed it to them, who knows.
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[edit on 7-9-2008 by LostNemesis]
Originally posted by avingard
Saddam was not put into power by us, he was an enforcer for the party that we used to overthrow the old government. He rose to power through his own determination and lack of morals. He climbed to the top over a pile of bodies.
Originally posted by LostNemesis
Where does it tie in that 9-11 happened, and we needed to go into an innocent country that could not harm us?
Originally posted by zysin5
Many people at my job are BIG into the war. They support it fully and say.
WE should nuke them! Turn it into a parking lot!
Kill um all! And thats the crap I deal with hearing.
I tend to try to turn a blind eye, and a deaf ear to these folks. As they IMO dont have any sense, nor a mind of their own. They are like zombies that walk threw this life. Purest of all sheeple. And one time I tried to talk some sense into them.. I failed. And ended up almost getting into a fist fight because of how I feel.
Most of them will outright wanna punch you in the face for saying otherwise. And I find it odd how a man that works his daily life, and has nothing to do with all this can be soo up tight, and down right defensive about this war.
Originally posted by Feltrick
The Soviet Union, way back when, realized the threat of Muslim Fundamentalism when they invaded Afghanistan. Yes, they were also in there to prop up a puppet dicatorship, but they also understood this new threat. We came to this realization too late. This was due mostly to our narrow view of the world at that time, Better Red than Dead. By the time we figured this out, it was too late.