In Finland we talk usually only about official story.

In Finland one tv station "JIM" shows every day this week programs about 9/11.

JIM show 5 days about conspiracy theories, Loose Change etc. Saturday show is Fahrenheit 9/11.

Nice work JIM. We need to hear all the facts here in Finland.

Thousands of people die everyday all over the world in worse ways than you can think of in wars, floods, famine you name it and we all know it as well yet we are stuck on the thought that what happened in NY is the biggest attack ever on a country.

How I feel about the war or what happened after 9-11, for me... My simple American teenager life changed.

JackInTheBox made a good point, that no matter who you are, you remember where you were that day.

I realized for the first time in my life that I was disconnected from reality. Having been a gamer since I was young, an Australian in game told me about 9-11 that morning. Just so I could turn on the tv and be horrified for the first time in my simple life.
For days I sat around watching tv, seeing the footage of the towers falling, over and over again. Something wasn't right, but suddenly all those years of learning in school that extremists hate us for our freedom, came true to me.

All those years of being able to get on a plane and ride anywhere without a "random" strip search are over, and the Patriot Act still exists among us, along with wiretapping and government people needing to read our instant messages and E-mails.. and maybe we were supposed to keep thinking that it's because extremists people in other countries hate us.

I would go through another 9/11 all over again just to have our rights back, and our credibility in the eyes of the rest of the world. The terrorists won. Not because they knocked down the Towers and smashed the Pentagon, but because they took away the only things worth fighting for in the first place.

(No matter who you want to think the terrorists really were.)

[edit on 9/8/0808 by jackinthebox]

I just realized that all of my anger at Bush, and/or anyone who had anything to do with 9-11 is really just a resentment for finding out that we aren't safe life they always made us think.

Since then everything changed, and I think that is what made it possible that my views changed, and ATS became a normal part of my life once I found it (on accident via a Portal of Evil link). The fact that there might be more to every story than we're told. The fact that maybe, people in Muslim countries don't hate us THAT much. But, our own government wanted everything to change.

I was flying an airline aircraft on 9-11, although I don't obsess about it, I can honestly say that there is not one day that I do not remember the people (including the flight crews) that perished that day.

Although this may be better posted in a conspiracy forum, I retired 3 years ago and can honestly say that up until that day of retirement, it was not at all uncommon to have weird situations occur weekly. There were many situations that appeared to be "testing" of procedures, reactions and security onboard. Like what, you may ask? Faked medical emergencies where flight attendants responded and as they did, "various" male passengers would place themselves intentionally between the flight attendants and the cockpit........

We are not finished with these issues....

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Thousands of people die everyday all over the world in worse ways than you can think of in wars, floods, famine you name it and we all know it as well yet we are stuck on the thought that what happened in NY is the biggest attack ever on a country.

Oddly enough, my stance to this is quite similar. Just because people died on that day in the towers doesn't make their deaths any more significant than other people who have died. That's not to say that those who have lost loved ones in the twin towers don't have a right to remember their deceased on that day - it just gets annoying when people call me "heartless" for not showing an incredible amount of emotion.

It's been 7 years. We should not forget, but we should continue to move forward, and we should continue to expose the fraud of that day. No matter what evidence you look at, Bush and co. are, at the very LEAST, responsible for letting the attacks happen and should be brought to a court of law.

[edit on 9/8/2008 by SonicInfinity]

I understand why these threads are made to remember those who fell during that day. But what I don't understand is why we choose to remember horrible thoughts. It's in the past, hopefully it won't happen again. Why cant we leave the past be? Why can't we honor those who died but not talk about why and how it doesn't matter it's in the past.

Also I want to make clear that I DO HONOR THOSE THAT HAVE DIED



[edit on 8-9-2008 by night.ops]

I'm never going to forget.

The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper." -George W. Bush

"The Constitution is a radical document... it is the job of the Government to rein in people's rights." -Bill Clinton

I remember that day, I woke up got my son ready for school. Went off to our meeting point with our ride that inevitably never showed up. I though for a moment that maybe she over stayed a party night and I might need to walk my son to school. Sitting and waiting I noticed there was airliner after airliner landing at the airport. I thought it a little odd but didn't give much thought to it.

Time had passed enough I figured I would need to walk him to school we headed home to grab the water bottle when I saw what was happening on the news.

At first it was the one plane crash, but shortly after I saw the second impact. At that point my knees felt weak, stomach not so good.

I kept my son home from school that day, and watched as it all unfolded. The feelings I felt were a mix of anger and remorse. I felt worthless for a small time knowing I could do nothing to help.

I went down the road of conspiracy on 9/11. bought into a lot of silly crap I might add. I don't buy into any of the 9/11 conspiracy theories at present, I believe them to be politically motivated.

It is... unacceptable in my eyes to follow a theory of such idiocy only blaming one side of a two party system... Something of this magnitude being pulled off was caused by both sides if it was caused by our side at all.

I have watched so much damn video of this, read so much crap about this, reviewed so many damn BS videos and pictures of it that I just don't want to look anymore. There is more doctored crap out there to suggest conspiracy that anything truthful is buried. It is truly a disappointing time in American history when so many are easily driven, and lead down roads of stupid.

It is my opinion this country is leading itself to suicide. That is if the insane stupid crap I see, hear, and experience everyday keeps up it's present track record..

I in no way excuse an investigation of 9/11, but the standards at which people accept is just baaaaaad. there is way to many people jumping on garbage reports as solid evidence. Way too many people jumping on guessed BS. So much BS presented as truth via youtube videos or some poor shmucks 2-3 camera photos. The sad part about this is if there is a cover to unveil we will never see it because of all the dumb ass crap thrown out there.

There is no need to cover up anything. "let the crying stupidity do it for you"

In the end I don't think there's a conspiracy. I think we were caught with our pants down. I think a lot of the conspiracy comes from people who wish it didn't happen that way.