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Topic started on 7-9-2008 @ 10:40 AM by The_Alarmist2012

7 years on, Sept. 11 is so far and yet so close


www.usatoday.com
It is not a tidy anniversary this year. Seven years between that awful day and this Sept. 11, the terrorist attacks linger somewhere between the immediate, a conscious part of our days, and the comfortable remove of the distant past. No longer yesterday and not yet history.
What happened seven years ago colors American life today. There are the two wars, of course. But in smaller ways, too: We sing "God Bless America" at the ballpark. We weigh "evil" as a campaign issue. We slip off our shoes at airport security, buy the zip-top bag for liquids and gels.

And yet there is an unmistakable distance now. No one speaks of the "new normal" anymore. All of those things are just normal.

(visit the link for the full news article)


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 08:23 PM by The_Alarmist2012
Remember the truth...

projects.publicintegrity.org...

President George W. Bush and seven of his administration's top officials, including Vice President Dick Cheney, National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, made at least 935 false statements in the two years following September 11, 2001, about the national security threat posed by Saddam Hussein's Iraq. Nearly five years after the U.S. invasion of Iraq, an exhaustive examination of the record shows that the statements were part of an orchestrated campaign that effectively galvanized public opinion and, in the process, led the nation to war under decidedly false pretenses.

On at least 532 separate occasions (in speeches, briefings, interviews, testimony, and the like), Bush and these three key officials, along with Secretary of State Colin Powell, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, and White House press secretaries Ari Fleischer and Scott McClellan, stated unequivocally that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction (or was trying to produce or obtain them), links to Al Qaeda, or both. This concerted effort was the underpinning of the Bush administration's case for war.

It is now beyond dispute that Iraq did not possess any weapons of mass destruction or have meaningful ties to Al Qaeda. This was the conclusion of numerous bipartisan government investigations, including those by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (2004 and 2006), the 9/11 Commission, and the multinational Iraq Survey Group, whose "Duelfer Report" established that Saddam Hussein had terminated Iraq's nuclear program in 1991 and made little effort to restart it.

In short, the Bush administration led the nation to war on the basis of erroneous information that it methodically propagated and that culminated in military action against Iraq on March 19, 2003. Not surprisingly, the officials with the most opportunities to make speeches, grant media interviews, and otherwise frame the public debate also made the most false statements, according to this first-ever analysis of the entire body of prewar rhetoric.



reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 08:40 PM by jackinthebox
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Not only did Saddam not have ties to Al-Qaeda, but al-Qaeda itself never existed in the way that we were meant to believe. There was no hidden Army of terrorists just waiting for orders from bin-Laden much more than Al Sharpton has an army of brothas waiting to set an American city to burn in riots. OBL's followers are indeed a bit more militant, but again, not organized as a real Army. This is not to say that there wasn't some level of a legitimate threat, but certainly not what we were led to believe. Given the right circumstances, I'm sure Big Al knows enough dangerous people to tear up an American city too.


reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 10:02 PM by The_Alarmist2012
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Wrong war right time?

We should also remember the 4155 US soldiers killed in Iraq. Along with 30568 wounded. The 314 coalition deaths and unspecified wounded, countless thousands of Iraqi civilians and others that may not be listed, as they also in many ways are all victims of the 9/11 attacks.

All of those lost in the fight against the Taliban and Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan. The apparent right war, though those who fight under the flag of freedom no matter where are ALL heroes.



reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 01:59 AM by pai mei
www.rense.com...
February 13/14 1945: Holocaust over Dresden, known as the Florence of the North. Dresden was a hospital city for wounded soldiers. Not one military unit, not one anti-aircraft battery was deployed in the city. Together with the 600.000 refugees from Breslau, Dresden was filled with nearly 1.2 million people. Churchill had asked for "suggestions how to blaze 600.000 refugees". He wasn't interested how to target military installations 60 miles outside of Dresden. More than 700.000 phosphorus bombs were dropped on 1.2 million people. One bomb for every 2 people. The temperature in the centre of the city reached 1600 o centigrade. More than 260.000 bodies and residues of bodies were counted. But those who perished in the centre of the city can't be traced. Approximately 500.000 children, women, the elderly, wounded soldiers and the animals of the zoo were slaughtered in one night.

Churchill, the monster who ordered the Dresden slaughter, was knighted, and the rest is history. The cold-blooded sadism of the massacre, however, is brushed aside by his biographers, who still cannot bring themselves to tell how the desire of one madman to "impress" another one let to the mass murder of up to a half million men, women and children.

Yes our leaders will do these kinds of things. Yes "normal" people can do this, your ordinary elected president will do it, I mean it's war it's "justified".

We must remember the victims of 9/11, we must also remember who did it.
It was not Irak or Afghanistan who did it. It was not Osama Bin Laden.


[edit on 8-9-2008 by pai mei]


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 04:20 AM by justme2
reply to post by The_Alarmist2012


Thank you Alarmist....
That is a much more fitting tribute to 9/11. In stark contrast to the person who posted the "Fitna" crap (Which is nothing more than a Zionist extremist video which perverts the peaceful muslim religion) .

You, Sir. Alarmist, actually share with us an actual TRUE hero from that day. to you my friend.

I will never forget 9/11. I was winding down from working the night shift at the E.R. Actually, was starting to doze off - when family came yelling to me: "Our country is under attack!". In my sleepy haze I mumbled "Leave me alone..Yeah, Yeah, country under........" Then woke right up.

I will never forget.


reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 05:06 AM by TaZCoN
Someone told me to let go of Sept.11,2001. “Just forget about it” they said.
I had this to say to them:
“IF you can remember shortly after September 11th, 2001,
there was this common phrase that was ringing my ears and
I’m going to assume it was ringing YOUR ears too.
In fact, there is a very strong chance that you uttered
the very exact same phrase I am writing about.
The phrase I am talking about, I thought, was a promise.
A promise that I had personally made to myself. I have kept my promise. Have you kept yours?”

“We will never forget” - Every True Patriot, September, 2001

We will never forget the most horrific crime in United States history,
We will never forget the airplanes that hit their targets with pure precision,
We will never forget “W” being informed,
We will never forget that “W” said he saw the first plane hit the first building,
We will never forget the most sudden and exact collapse of two skyscrapers in NYC,
We will never forget who did security at the WTC,
We will never forget who was leasing the WTC,
We will never forget the report;”secondary explosives”
We will never forget William Rodriguez’s testimony,
We will never forget he refused to be bought,
We will never forget the statements made by hundreds of EYE witnesses,
We will never forget the most sudden and exact collapse of a third skyscraper in NYC.
We will never forget who occupied WORLD TRADE CENTER SEVEN
We will never forget who decided to “pull” WTC7,
We will never forget a countdown to the collapse of WTC7,
We will never forget the expedited shipment of evidence overseas,
We will never forget who didn’t see a plane fly into the Pentagon,
We will never forget who did see a plane fly into the pentagon
We will never forget the small round hole in the outer ring,
We will never forget the small round hole in the inner ring,
We will never forget the witness who spoke of an aroma of cordite,
We will never forget the confiscated videos,
We will never forget the released video,
We will never forget the plane in Shanksville, Pennsylvania,
We will never forget who was in charge,
We will never forget that the “order still stands!”,
We will never forget the NORAD exercise,
We will never forget the confusion during the chain of commands,
We will never forget the TOTAL disintegration and disappearance of an airplane,
We will never forget who was accused,
We will never forget being told that alternate theories will not be tolerated,
We will never forget Project for the New American Century pg 63,
We will never forget the “War on Terror”,
We will never forget the “weapons of mass destruction”,
We will never forget the “unknown unknowns”,
We will never forget who “W” appointed to head the 9-11 commission
We will never forget what the U.S.A. P.A.T.R.I.O.T. A.C.T. stands for,
We will never forget that our freedom to speak is a right,
We will never forget the failure of our intelligence agency to cooperate with our bureau of investigation,
We will never forget who was promoted,
We will never forget who was fired,
We will never forget the true heroes are,
We will never forget the innocent victims,
We will never forget the first responders,

Will you never forget?
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