ABC News Lies in Poll, page 1

This is why the news media has fallen so far and lacks any credibility.

This is a quote from an ABC News story on a recent poll.

The poll, conducted the night after Palin accepted the second slot on the GOP ticket at the party's national convention in St. Paul, Minn., finds that 55 percent of all Americans said the Palin pick makes no difference in their support for McCain

Now the question becomes this:

Are the writers of the article just sloppy and incompetent when they write that "55 percent of ALL AMERICANS said..." Obviously they didn't poll all Americans.

Or is this done intentionally to sway public opinion and make the poll seem more important than it really is?

Can writers really be this incompetent?

Oh, and how many people were interviewed for this poll?

"In all, the ABC poll included telephone interviews with a random national sample of 505 adults."

505 people were interviewed, and this was translated into the conclusion that 55% of ALL AMERICANS said Palin's selection makes no difference. So 275 people said this and ABC News concludes that 150 MILLION said it. Brilliant.

But wait.... there's more...

"Her rhetoric sounded very, very much like what I'm used to hearing from Republicans," said Seaburg, who, like others interviewed for this article, participated in a previous Washington Post-ABC News poll.

So the poll wasn't even RANDOM to begin with. ABC News hand-picked who to call.

Source

So either journalistic standard have dropped to new depths, or ABC News is out to advance their own agenda. Personally, I can't believe any professional writer working for a major news outlet could possibly be so dumb.





[edit on 7-9-2008 by jamie83]

reply to post by jamie83

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Cmon Jamie..... This is how all polls are conducted. From time to time the anchor will refer to the pol las representing all Americans. The neilsen ratings boxes arent in every American home, but they represent America... Same rule applies...

they werent lying.

Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by jamie83

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Cmon Jamie..... This is how all polls are conducted. From time to time the anchor will refer to the pol las representing all Americans. The neilsen ratings boxes arent in every American home, but they represent America... Same rule applies...

they werent lying.

Of course this is how polls are done.

That said, it is either incredibly disingenuous on the part of ABC News, or incredibly incompetent, that they characterize the result of the poll "that 55 percent of all Americans said..."

The polls + MSM are the dirtiest secret of how the PTB attempt to manipulate public opinion.

Seriously, 505 people were called on the phone and asked some questions. This would be 10 people per state. Or about 1 person in each major city, and 1 person in the suburbs of each state.

From this ABC News concludes "55% of Americans SAID...."???

There is no defense of this in terms of journalistic integrity. It's gone. The MSM has been turned into a massive mind f*** machine and we're all the ones getting bombarded everyday and manipulated.

Our core beliefs and behaviors are being manipulated by this type of false reporting. Ever read Robert Cialdini's book "Influence"? One of the major forces of human behavior is social proof. People will act in a way they believe other people are acting.

By brainwashing us to even CARE about the polls at all is a form of brainwashing. To get us hanging on pins and needles everyday about what the polls say is high level brainwashing.

In fact, I would suggest that the polls CREATE the results of the elections to a certain extent. We're all being manipulated.

Let's put it another way. What legitimate purpose do polls serve?

reply to post by jamie83

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Very good find Jamie. Its yet another example of the way the MSM manipulates the truth, to help further democrat agendas. I hope people wake up before they dominate the government too.

What amazes me is all the otherwise intelligent people, who turn around and say things like, "Hey thats how it is!" or "Its ok, Fox does it too!". Are we here to deny ignorance or perpetuate it? Sometimes I'm not so sure.

[edit on 7-9-2008 by Dronetek]

reply to post by jamie83

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Polls are made to represent ALL Americans. That is the point, if a poll actually only represented the views of 500-1000 Americans(typical polling size), what would be the point. As some have stated, a stats class will clue you into why polls are accepted as covering the whole even when they only have a limited number of people.

You can say that they should have said "of all Americans polled...." but the Americans polled, represent All Americans based on the science of stats.

Knowledge is Power

Originally posted by Dronetek
reply to post by jamie83

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Very good find Jamie. Its yet another example of the way the MSM manipulates the truth, to help further democrat agendas. I hope people wake up before they dominate the government too.

What amazes me is all the otherwise intelligent people, who turn around and say things like, "Hey thats how it is!" or "Its ok, Fox does it too!". Are we here to deny ignorance or perpetuate it? Sometimes I'm not so sure.

[edit on 7-9-2008 by Dronetek]

Jamie, this is the stuff we were talking about... He gave the answer in his post... FOX does it too. THEY ALL DO. Its not to further some democratic purpose. Its just how polls are done... Its no surprise they dont really represent all americans in terms of numbers... but as I said, the neilson ratings are done the same way.. bigger numbers of course, but still just a sampling...

And ya know what? These polls are usually correct. Not 100% but they usually get it right. Hence we put faith into the polls, despite the low numbers they use.

reply to post by jamie83

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I have half a dozen statistics books on my shelf here in my office...I could easily grab one for reference and provide that for you here. Or you could go get a book and read up on it yourself. It's not my job to hand feed you Jamie. You're an adult (I presume) and thus capable of looking it up yourself. It's not my job to teach you statistics.

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