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DEVELOPING: RNC Detainee alleges torture in Ramsey County jail

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posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 06:47 PM
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Obviously you have a problem with reading comprehension and hearing. The kid got knocked off HIS bike by the POLICE. And then was arrested, but not before the nazi that ran into him said "Don't worry about it, it's ok".

It's people like you, and others on this thread that are calling this kid names, "Terrorist", "Princess", etc, that make me SICK.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.

I could swear you people are actually cheering on the degradation of our rights as Americans. It's people like you that would have cheered on Hitler.


[edit on 9/7/2008 by justme2]




posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 06:56 PM
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The cops actions were ridiculous.

With that said, I am not impressed by the protesters either, nor the confrence.

The protests of the 60's were organized, had numbers and those protesting were usually college students and were in a far better state of education than these kids

I don't agree with the way the poster above called the kid names but, the words "attention whore" honestly came to my mind.


I don't get the impression that these kids or alot of people really understand what or why they are protesting

Imho, alot of people simply don't get that the real threat isn't as simple as republican or Democratic parties and that Bush and others have Globalist agendas, (my OPINION is that Obama is the anti America this round, Clinton before that)

That is my Opinion, could be wrong... But that the payoffs and Agendas revolve around multinational corporations, the UN and foreign powers agendas for the USA is really being overlooked in targeting the RNC for protest

If you really want to find who to blame deep, in depth analysis of the Money is the only way to have a clue... and I can't say I have much more than a clue, but it is OBVIOUS there are those in both parties and those running American companies that have sold at America

And with that said

Protest is still legal and the cops were wrong, an IQ test as to why you protest isn't the way America works, they have a right to march and be ridiculous.



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 06:57 PM
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Summary:

It starts and ends Ridiculous on the behalf of everyone involved




posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by justme2
reply to post by SectionEight
 


Obviously you have a problem with reading comprehension and hearing. The kid got knocked off HIS bike by the POLICE. And then was arrested, but not before the nazi that ran into him said "Don't worry about it, it's ok".

It's people like you, and others on this thread that are calling this kid names, "Terrorist", "Princess", etc, that make me SICK.

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.

I could swear you people are actually cheering on the degradation of our rights as Americans. It's people like you that would have cheered on Hitler.


[edit on 9/7/2008 by justme2]



That is not at all what I seen. I seen an aspiring anarchist kid who bumped into a cop but because his body mass and physicallity was so pitifully inadequate for the job he fell instead of the cop. Just because he failed to knock the cop over does not excuse the attempted assault. The cops acted swiftly to avoid any of the crowd from trying anything violent to get their member back.



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 07:14 PM
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Great thread! Stared and flagged! www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 07:16 PM
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These two threads look very similar don't they?



... I will admit that if this is true, whats more important is that this news gets out, although I am skeptical of the news report.

[edit on 7-9-2008 by Techsnow]



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
Nice to see justice served on these street terrorists. If one person in a crowd gets away with pushing a cop off his bike it can quickly escalate into mob violence. These cops did a good job nipping it in the bud.



Look at that kid! He's a kid, an AMERICAN kid, why would you call him a terrorist? What is wrong with you? You seem to think anyone that disagrees and SHOWS they disagree by demonstrating is somehow a terrorist, or a sympathizer thereof. And this is not the case. These are you fellow citizens, these people and their experiences matter, what we allow to happen in our jails matters. It matters because somehow, someway we were lead to believe that there is Liberty and Justice For ALL.

[edit on 7-9-2008 by projectvxn]



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 10:34 PM
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That "kid" sure did find out about the Justice part and I bet he is sorry he gave up his liberty so foolishly by acting like a street terrorist.



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 10:41 PM
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That is the sad part, these kids run through the streets with their faces covered "as if", and really it just places them in a whole other catagory than what they think they look like.

Or at least that is one possibility, I am sure that there are some there to cause trouble rather than peaceful protest.

I say what I want to whom I choose and have always put my best face forward when doing peace marches and protests for one thing or another.

I really think that they get off a little like rebels or anarchists by the face covers, and yet once you truly speak out there is no turning back, look at Jones and people like him.



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 10:44 PM
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Dude, its not even worth debating with this dude, im pretty sure hes post baiting...IMHO

But anyways, this is sick...Completely, utterly sick.





I keep seeing more and more of this and it is starting to become disturbing...

[edit on 7-9-2008 by SilentBob86]



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by SectionEight
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That "kid" sure did find out about the Justice part and I bet he is sorry he gave up his liberty so foolishly by acting like a street terrorist.


What is a street terrorist? You know anything about the streets? Or do you write this garbage from the comfort of suburbia? This kid is a protester. Someone who believes in something and did something about it, there's nothing more American than that. He did hurt anyone, he didn't kill anyone, he didn't shout death to America, so where exactly is he defined as a terrorist?

You don't know a bloody thing about terror anywhere let alone the streets of America. You think protesters are terrorists? Try vicious street gangs, try drug cartels, and other organized crime syndicates.

Why? because they employ cops, and politicians, and they have the money to make it look good.

You want a terrorist? Look past this skinny kid protesting at the RNC and look at the strife cause by those mentioned above, groups and individuals, that care for no one but themselves. That is a terrorist. This kid believes in something, and whether it is misguided or wise isn't the point. He didn't hurt anyone in expressing his views, and yet he was treated in such a low manner. This is not ok no matter how evil you try to make this innocent kid look.



posted on Sep, 7 2008 @ 11:08 PM
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He attacked a cop. Watch the video. Nothing innocent about what he did. An incident like that can easily set off a riot and destroy a city if not handled properly like the cops did here.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by MarkLuitzen
Even here in the Netherlands there are trying to bring down people in government just because those people are not doing things like they want it to be.


Isn't that the way things are supposed to work?

People try to change the things that they do not like about their situation. That is part of being free.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 05:22 AM
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And as far as im concerned,

this pumps me up for court tomorrow.

because had i talked back to the cops when they arrested me back in may, they were talking about taking me to jail in the trunk so they wouldnt get fleas from me. thats after saying i look like Jeffery Dahmer (a homosexual cannibal) and to check the garage freezer for body parts, they likely wouldve mistreated me as well. (just to be asses..)

i am going to have some detective arse, and im going to let the public defender serve it up! lol..

[edit on 9/8/2008 by runetang]



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 05:33 AM
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Denver coucilman wants details on DNC spending

From what I understand both convention host cities got a $50 million federal grant for security. Denver PD can account for $23 million everyone is kind of wondering about the remaining $27 million.

I don't know if the actions of LE are so much about the suppression of our rights as it is to justify some very large paychecks.

When the PTB fork over 50 mill things better go off without a hitch or cops will have some explaining to do. It would reflect badly on LE superiors who have dollar signs in their eyes.

It's always about money. LE gets huge amounts of cash to fight the war on drugs, war on free speech, war on terror etc. In return they must produce numbers to justify budgets.

We're being sold out they've got to fill all the new prisons being built. After all look at all the jobs they provide to the community. America's new industry!


Sorry my link isn't working I'll try to find another.

[edit on 8-9-2008 by Morningglory]

try this one different article though sorry.
www.rockymountainnews.com...

[edit on 8-9-2008 by Morningglory]



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 05:57 AM
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Are some of you delusional?Are you completely in denial?What will it take to get you to realise you have no rights any more and you are living in a police state?I don't understand this at all.Time and time and again now we are presented with evidence of what is human rights abuse by many bodies of authority .What will it take to get you to wake up?Dead bodies in the streets?If you don't stand up to this kind of oppression now your lives are going to be hell in the future,if you could call it a future.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by candyfloss
Are some of you delusional?Are you completely in denial?What will it take to get you to realise you have no rights any more and you are living in a police state?I don't understand this at all.Time and time and again now we are presented with evidence of what is human rights abuse by many bodies of authority .What will it take to get you to wake up?Dead bodies in the streets?If you don't stand up to this kind of oppression now your lives are going to be hell in the future,if you could call it a future.


Well said CF.

Some folks here in this thread are either in denial, delusional, or they don't care - or a mixture of these things.
I think for the people in that category - the only thing that will open their eyes is when they get beaten up. Then again, they will probably still deny it with some silly excuse like "Oh, it was my mistake. They beat me up in my double-wide trailer living room because an Obama commercial was on the TV".

The ones making the 'tarded comments are mostly neo-con right winger's.

[edit on 9/8/2008 by justme2]



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 08:45 AM
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Way to go gestapo~ You all make us proud to know that our children can get such great treatment from our police/gestapo ! Oh and next time things like freedumb of speech gets in the way, why not just taze everyone u can and shoot the rest!!!

Also, all the posts that support our Gestapo and this national socialist movement, why don't you all move to gutanamo? I hear they need some recruits for target practice.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by sp00n1
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CS Tear gas, or 2-chlorobenzalmalononitrile, IS a chemical weapon. It is not available to civilians, only military and law enforcement, and has been shown to have lethal effects in large doses.

Would you call anhydrous ammonia a chemical weapon? You damn well better believe it because they use it as a weapon. Not only does it burn the lungs, it will burn through any moist skin it encounters. Just because they water it down and sell it as a cleaning product doesn´t mean its not a weapon.

[edit on 9/6/2008 by sp00n1]


Very true. For anyone who hasn't taken a full brunt assault of this chemical you have ZERO stance to belittle its effects. I remember having to go through it and remain in it for 5 minutes in order to allow us to know what to expect or how to sense it. Well, to put it plainly to you, I watched very large kids (most of us were between 18 and 22 at the time) turn into little babies with snot down to their shoes and stringy vomit gushing out of their mouths.

IT IS A CHEMICAL WEAPON people. It's a chemical that is used against other people thus a weapon. Now, do I feel that cops deserve to have something like this as a usually non-lethal alternative to their guns and tasers? Sure thing. If someone resists arrest, even and unjust arrest, they WILL get sprayed. They need to know this. Just don't resist arrest. Keep shouting, keep your 'peaceful' protest going, but DO NOT resist arrest if you are targeted. That's the easiest way to avoid this kind of treatment.



posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:40 AM
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i believe it was Sun Tzu who said that the most effective way to get rid of enemies was to get them to fight amongst themselves and destroy each other. am i the only one that sees this?



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