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Cat 4 Hurricane Ike Poised To Strike New Orleans


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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 05:09 PM by marg6043


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What people do not understand about the modern Louisiana is that the coast of Louisiana used to be a natural delta the purpose of a natural delta is for the drain of waters from natural canals.

Since the Louisiana delta has fallen on human hands for the purpose of control nature in favor of human habitation we can see what problems arises due to this type of intervention.

We think we can control nature but eventually nature is the one that control us.



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 06:07 PM by Simplynoone


{We think we can control nature but eventually nature is the one that control us. }

Agreed .
I mean look how they are trying to keep the sea waters from taking back that one city in that Country (cant remember what it is called) spending BILLIONS and YEARS worth of work ..comeing up with as many inventive ideas as possible trying to hold the sea back ...it is not working ..they are now about to give up and just make it a floating city ..
That wont work either .



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 06:09 PM by resistor


Originally posted by toepick
I think what would be interesting is IF it does head to NOR...I mean, how many times are they going to evacuate everyone, and at what cost..can they afford to keep running this drill?

Or have they cried wolf already and this time will be a lac-luster response.



Exactly what I was thinking. If this one does hit NO, look out!

On the other hand, it might be Galveston/Houston’s turn again.

My take on NOLA is that there are locations there that are perfectly safe for habitation and necessary for the transportation industry, but it is overbuilt (or under built?) for the large number of poor urbanites that inhabit the most dangerous areas.



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 06:21 PM by realshanti


Well I'm on my way to Nola in a couple of weeks for an extended visit provided she's sufficiently recovered from Ike- maybe play a few gigs and enjoy some down time with a very old friend....and very much looking forward to one of the most historically significant cities in the world where jazz and blues was born and nurtured...something about which, I realize, most Americans know zero and care less about but which is in fact America's original art form...so all the self righteous pronouncements about NOLA from you upstanding citizens regarding her degenerate character and your willingness to abandon your own history serves mainly to highlight the poker some folk keep tightly packed up their keisters and the cliches stuffed into that cultural vacuum some folk call their minds...



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 06:25 PM by Simplynoone


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Someday there will not be a culture there if this keeps on.
I just dont understand building,building blows away,building,building blows away ....flood lose everything,flood lose everything,on and on ...
I mean its like trying to swim upstream isnt it ?



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 06:37 PM by Anonymous ATS


What I would like to know is why they only worry about New Orleans. With Katrina New Orleans is the only place that is mention. I live in Mississippi and I still have trees in my yard and roots from Katrina. I know people who still live in Fema campers, but we are not mention. Waveland was almost wiped off the map and even Baton Rouge that was just hit by Gustav is not mention. All you hear is Gustav missed New Orleans. Is this the only place in the United States that matters, Do we don't matter in Mississippi.



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:06 PM by realshanti


Originally posted by Simplynoone
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Someday there will not be a culture there if this keeps on.
I just dont understand building,building blows away,building,building blows away ....flood lose everything,flood lose everything,on and on ...
I mean its like trying to swim upstream isnt it ?




there actually designs and ways of building that would allow for flooding and hurricane force winds without damaging the structures but the public will has to be in place for this to happen...it would require $$$, creativity and thinking outside the usual parameters but as it stands now the people with the most will - those who refuse to give up on Nola often have the least $$$ and power to back up that desire...so yes its an upstream battle but everything good that exists in this world does so because someone fought for it to exist...



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:14 PM by undo


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i live in florida. what the insurance companies are doing is making the deductible really high. for example, a hurricane came threw here a few years ago and knocked down our fence, ripped parts of it apart (it was a wood fence). our deductible for the fence was 5000 dollars. to get it replaced was around 2000 dollars. so we had to pay for it. essentially, they make up for losses by only paying for things that have a high dollar value that exceeds the deductible by a goodly amount



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:17 PM by Fathom


Originally posted by marg6043
I don't think that is going to hit New Orleans this time I believe that it may got closer to the Florida coast in the northern part.

The hurricane is going too slow and that may change its course.

It didn't hit New Orleans last time...
everyone seems to forget that New Orleans isn't a state, the state is Louisiana and there is alot of other cities besides New Orleans..

Gustav hit Morgan City, so did Andrew..
look it up someday, expand your horizons.



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:24 PM by realshanti


The whole gulf coast could benefit from hurricane resistant housing:

www.inhabitat.com...

Nothing for the wind to grab hold of ergo it stays intact...I also saw a desgn for the city that was righteous with every structure raised above flood level and beautiful too...but I can't find it at the moment - will post it if I come across it again...



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:27 PM by resistor


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I'm right there with you realshanti. London is subject to storm surges and is protected by state of the art technology.

en.wikipedia.org...

Same for the Netherlands.

en.wikipedia.org...

While neither experience hurricanes, both are subject to intense north Atlantic storm surges. There is no doubt in my mind that if resources were properly directed here at home instead of being given away to nations around the world, and wasted on wars of conquest that do us more harm than good, NOLA could be made safe and sound.

PS: If you do go to NOLA to gig, let me know. I've been looking for an excuse to go see some great live music there.



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:56 PM by marg6043


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I think you misread my post I didn't say Gustav hit NO Katrina did and I didn't said Katrina either.

Lord have mercy people need to read better other people's posts.

Before claiming ignorance.



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 08:47 PM by Fathom


Originally posted by marg6043
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I think you misread my post I didn't say Gustav hit NO Katrina did and I didn't said Katrina either.

Lord have mercy people need to read better other people's posts.

Before claiming ignorance.

you said " i don't think it is going to hit new orleans this time]"
meaning it did last time.

there is so much ignorance out there when it comes to louisiana. vereyone just assumes that if the hurricane doesn't hit New Orleans than everything is ok...well let me tell you all those hurricanes that missed new orleans devasted other towns and this was never reported...

ever hear of a little town called Cameron, LA???"
Here get aquainted with it...SINCE IT IS GONE NOW.

www.hoax-slayer.com...

www.cclockwood.com...

www.geog.nau.edu...

mostlycajun.com...

photo.net...

you can thank a little hurricane called Rita that "missed" new orleans

ever heard of it?



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 09:52 PM by LiquidCrystalz


Well, I hope Ike doesn't hit LA. My husband was suppose to be leaving out Monday for Baton Rouge with his company to do some repairs. But, his boss called and said his crew would be delayed until they see what Ike is gonna do. I wouldn't want to live on the coast. I am terrified of tornado's, couldn't even imagine a hurricane. They wouldn't have to tell me twice to get out............



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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 09:54 PM by Simplynoone


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HI Fatham
I am sorry to hear about that town..did you live there ?and thanks for the links.....and of course we didnt hear about it they dont tell us everything ..we wish they did .
Wasnt Rita the one where all of Houston and Beaumont all evactuated that one time ?

I watched online alot of what Miss. And LA looked like after Katrina
There was a video that showed 100 miles from LA to FL> it was horrible...

Fatham that pink dolphin is neat ...



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reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 10:06 AM by marg6043


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What in the heck is your problem? get a grip and slow down!!!!!!!!!!!!! I didn't know that I have become your target just because a darn hurricane and NO.

I think you have a problem with me but it has nothing to do with NO or hurricanes.

The OP is about NO possibility of becoming a target by IKe

Something that is beyond any of us human beings capabilities to stop, Is not my fault, NO and the entire Mexican Gulf gets target by Hurricanes the same way that my home Island in the Caribbean is.

This are act of nature, is not a modern occurrence as people build around coastal areas that are susceptible to Hurricanes so the devastation will be greater.

So hey get a grip.



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reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 10:34 AM by marg6043


Now back to th OP, Cuba is been devastating by IKE right now, but Cuba is a resilient country and hurricanes are not new to them as they are targeted along with my home Island every year by hurricane.

Now that IKE is going across Cuba and emerging in the south of the Island the waters are warmer and will put IKE closer to the Yucatan peninsula and perhaps Texas.

Still nobody really knows where IKE will end once in the Gulf.

It has to do with a high pressure pushing IKE in the gulf, but that may change soon.

Interesting developments.



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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 03:05 AM by Goradd


just for clarification the eye Katrina did not "Hit" NOLA...yes NOLA was affected by Hurricane Katrina but it was not a Direct hit!

and yes everyone is always up and arms about Katrina and NOLA when there were other cities that actually got a direct hit....i just think we all need to remember that other cities were involed as well


As For Hurricane IKE it is nowhere near NOLA and will probably hit the Texas coast...



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