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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 02:48 AM by Goradd
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More than likely this will not Hit NOLA and won't be a CAT 4....it will probably hit on the TX coast of the border of TX/LA.
and will most likely hit as a Cat 3
and as everyone is saying its way too soon to knoe for sure!
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 03:09 AM by burdman30ott6
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Everyone who's making the statement that the government should just abandon New Orleans and everyone should move apparently knows very little about
our national economy.
The Port of New Orleans is the 5th largest cargo port in the United States and the Port of South Louisiana (which also lies mostly below sea level
along the river coast line from New Orleans to Baton Rouge) is the largest seaport in the Western Hemisphere in terms of cargo volume. Over half of
our nation's domestic grain exports leave the Midwest down the Mississippi river and are transfered to oceanic cargo vessels in the Port of New
Orleans.
For as much exposure as New Orleans gets as a city of partying, revelry, voodoo, and general tomfoolery, people seem to be completely oblivious to her
true economic value & importance to this country. All of those Gulf offshore drilling rigs use the port to get the crude into this country and a fair
share of our national refineries are located in the region. Those ports also hold two of our 4 national strategic petroleum reserve stores.
Every single barge that comes down (or up) the Mississippi or Missouri rivers with imported or exported cargo passes through that port. Also, anyone
who loves gulf shrimp or gulf oysters/clams can thank the port of New Orleans for getting them from the gulf to the land.
Yeah, it cost us some money to rebuild the city after Katrina and it very well could happen again... but if you place the trade value (actually an
almost uncalcuable value) against the cost of rebuilding the city however many times it gets flooded, the vitalness of the city & her ports,
refineries, and storage capacity will tip the scales everytime.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 03:12 AM by pavil
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As someone else said, far too early to forecast with any real certainty of track and strength till it passes by/thru Cuba. It will weaken over Cuba
then regroup over the Gulf. Heck it might even hit the tip of Southern Florida. Too many variables still, to say anything for certain 4 or 5 days out.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 04:41 AM by Migwah
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 07:25 AM by Spock Shock
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Whoever decided to build a city of that scale in hurricane ally is seriously an idiot.
Who cares if they do this and that with their ports, its just an obvious move to build around things like geography and weather... its like putting up
houses with no roof cuz you think it won't rain...
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 08:33 AM by toepick
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New Orleans has been around since the mid-late 1700's, its not a matter of people being idiots for building on the coast; however I will not argue
that there are a lot of idiots in this world
As Burdman stated NO is a large vital port city. This 'situation' started in the 60's-70's when they started pumping water and expanding into
areas that they should have just left alone IMO.
Source
Unfortunately it seems that the majority of people living in those areas are of limited means, and it looks like developers have taken advantage of
Katrina (and I'm sure of any future storms) in order to turn low rent areas into more profitable lake front properties.
In any case, fighting against mother nature just isn't a winning proposition. While I agree that rebuilding is fine, I think they could find a safer
way to do it.
"Don't worry, of course that concrete wall will hold all the water back!"
Leaky New Orleans levee alarms experts
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 08:45 AM by justamomma
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While I understand what you are saying, would it not at the very least make sense to keep the areas that are under sea level off limits to residential
housing? I am not sure that anyone is complaining that it shouldn't or couldn't be used for the reasons that you cite.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 09:18 AM by Regenmacher
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Models shifted farther west:
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 09:20 AM by Essan
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Looking pretty bad for Cuba
What happens when Ike gets into the Gulf remains to be seen.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 09:30 AM by Agit8dChop
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To early to say where its heading, Gustav looked like 'the storm of the century' then fizzled, yes its good to be prepared and expect the worst, but
you cant do it every time something enters the gulf.
just be prepared.
in saying that,
After Katrina hit i believe there's no choice, but to never return to the city again.
Its enevitable for it to happen again, and again, and again.
those waters are getting warmer, and hurricanes seem to have a very common habbit of heading in that direction.
People should of learned from Katrina, that city just isnt where people should live any longer.
good luck to florida and the gulf water states, theres many more hurricanes heading your way in the years to come.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 10:47 AM by Anonymous ATS
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I live in Houston and was here when Alisha hit. That was the last hurricane we had. I think it was in 1983. We're WAY overdue for one. I know it's
too early to tell where it's headed, but I wouldn't be surprised if it comes here. Oh and BTW.... I'm not evacuating. I'd rather be in my house
than stuck with millions of people on a freeway going nowhere.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 02:31 PM by Shrukin89
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I feel that it's going to weaken just like what Gustav did. Oil prices are going to take a big swing. More people will decide to stay, because of
the not so big threat that comes from the media.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 03:03 PM by Trauma
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New Orleans is like the American economy: We all know it's going to be crushed but those that are inside of it will ignore it until it's too late
for them to escape.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 03:16 PM by Simplynoone
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{People expect too much from the Federal Government these days. }
Which is exactly what the Government wants.Reminds me of the times of the Pharohs .
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 03:26 PM by marg6043
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It seems Ike may be slightly changing its trajectory and staying more to the northern of Cuba than the center of the Island, if this happens it will
be a dangerous hurricane for the Florida keys and southern Florida.
This is still developing so is very interesting.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 03:39 PM by Sky watcher
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If it does head for NO then it will be a big disaster. Many people will not leave because of the last one that failed to hurt the city. Many people
will have no money to cut and run, Short of being escorted to a camp set up by the government half way across the country.
I for one think that homes should not be allowed to be under sea level anymore. Businesses yes but homes no. The port has to run but there is no
excuse for having homes in a place like that.
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 04:21 PM by Simplynoone
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{I for one think that homes should not be allowed to be under sea level anymore. Businesses yes but homes no}
I agree ...I mean if you build your house on sand (beaches) thats just plain stupid anyway knowing that the Ocean has access to that sand too lol..and
of course Hurricaines coming in all the time .....
Also building a house on a huge ACTIVE fault line like (California)
Then you have tornado alley ...
And building a city under a volcano ..
Cities built right on the ring of fire ...
I mean sheeshh ...what was man thinking ...talk about living on the edge ..
We cannot get away from all disasters ..but why would anyone want to live right on top of one .
If my house kept getting swept away,flooded or whatever..I would get the hint that my house doesnt belong there ......
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