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Why don't contrails show up on water vapor satellite? Because they are chemtrails.

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posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 08:41 AM
Ah ok - well I am new to the chemtrail theory so am not on top of all of this as yet. All I do know is that the cloud formations over Glastonbury at the moment are NOT natural.


posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:07 AM
reply to post by Essan

I would be interested in knowing why it is exactly that you draw a conclusion that contrails are a "serious issue".

I would prefer it in your words, than a slew of meaningless links that would otherwise substantiate your position.

As far as I can see, contrails are no more a "serious issue" than the hundres of millions of wives, husbands, chefs, and hotsprings boiling water all over this planet. Perhaps any OTHER substances or particulate matter that may be an exhaust byproduct from a jet engine would be a serious issue, but I vehemently disagree that condensation is one of them.


posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:19 AM
reply to post by Manasseh

Question, in any of the Water Vapor images that you posted I do not see natural (well not natural) occurring trails from commercial planes...? Why because they do exist, would you not think you would see some here and there...?

I am no expert but we all agree that cem and con trails exist right...? is it not feasible to see some con trails that are naturaly produced by commercial planes in the pictures...?

thank you,

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:26 AM
reply to post by Manasseh

Are you really that confused about satellite imagery? Do you know how wide a vapour trail is? Do you know the resolution of the satellite camera that took that image? Hint: If you put a human hair on the wall, step back 50 metres, take a photo of the area where the hair is, you won't be able to see the hair. By your logic, you have just proven that hair doesn't exist.

Get a grip!

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:56 AM
Not an expert on this Chemtrail stuff -- but let's not be idiotic here.
A contrail, is compressed or heated air with moisture in it from a passing plane. There isn't MORE moisture because a plane passed -- you've just disrupted it. You compress some of it, so that it can form mist or ice crystals, and then the air around it is a bit dryer. Or, it's warm are and creating tiny clouds like your breathe does on a cold day (I'm saying a bit of both processes are at work).

A moisture sensor won't register any more moisture on a Contrail because there isn't any more water -- you've just coalesced it into a slightly higher concentration by robbing the air around it. Sorry if this is a bit redundant. But dang, you really shoot this concept in the foot by relating every line of clouds from a plane to an attempt to dump some chemicals.

A Chemtrail should be showing some chemicals -- so evidence should be obtainable.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 10:16 AM
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst

There is more moisture. When a hydrocarbon [Jet fuel] is combusted in air water and CO2 are produced, along with a few other things such as SO2 and NOx. If you look closely at a plane generating contrails, you will see a trail from each engine.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 10:38 AM
reply to post by Manasseh

I am trying to understand what you are claiming, is it that ALL planes are spreading chemicals, and is it that every vapor trail left by a jet is filled with tree killing chemicals? Or is it just a small percentage?

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 10:42 AM
Chemtrails are likely a result of the NATO Aerosolized Defense Grid That was implemented in the late 1990’s.

Countries who have recently joined NATO are also being subjected to this grid and are not happy about it; Bulgaria, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. As the others just before (Hungary, Poland and Czech Republic in 1999, East-Germany in 1990) are all obligated to follow certain policies and allowing the defense grid to be applied in their aerospace. The citizenry is not consulted and does not have a say in these type of operations.

Whenever a country joins NATO - you will see that their citizenry quickly becomes aware of the chemtrail phenomenon and will begin to form groups to inform others and protest the spraying. These groups often lobby politicians aswell as create websites and leaflets to inform others.

It is likely that the planes spraying the chemicals that facilitate the operation of the NATO Aerosolized Defense Grid are from other NATO countries. The planes that create chemtrails are likely not piloted by members belonging to the military of the country over which they are applying the Grid. This ensures a certain level of detachment from the crime being committed.

The operations appear to be highly classified, and pilots told their actions are benevolent - it is likely they are told they are “Saving the environment” or something to that effect. I have no doubt they would face immediate court martial if they were to leak any data pertaining to this man-made phenomenon.

here are some interesting patents that will indicate some of the military uses for chemtrails.

-This technology is used to amplify and increase the effectiveness of this technology:

-this weapons system’s ability to detect and destroy an object is vastly increased with heavy metal particulate in the air, effectively converting a laser into a particle beam weapon.

The proof is there for all to see.

“Experts” to help you deny the reality and to sideline and derail people who have pertinent and important information to release concerning the man-made, and dangerous chemtrail phenomenon.

The reality is so frightening that having an ‘accredited’ expert on hand to create a meme of plausible deniability is actually an effective way of causing people to dismiss the chemtrail phenomenon.

But then you take a look at the evidence, and the malevolent intent becomes self-evident. planes (either NATO or Private) are spraying something on the densely populated areas in the countries that are a part of NATO.

*Keep in mind, there are NO LAWS against or even about weather modification in North America. If you are a billionaire and you want it to rain on city where your ex-wife lives, you can. If you want to cause a drought or flood your farming competitions and you have the money - there is NOTHING stopping you.

There are no laws prohibiting Weather modification in the United States. Every country that joins NATO has their weather modification laws repealed or altered to suit the purposes of NATO and the Aerosolized Defense Grid:

-Weather Modification Patents-

6569393-5/27/03-Method and Device for Cleaning the Atmosphere.
6520425-2/18/03-Proces and Apparatus for the Production of Nanofibers.
6412416-7/2/02-Propellant-Based Aerosol Generation Devices and Method.
6315213-11/13/01-Method of Modifying Weather.
6263744-7/24/01-Automated Mobility-Classified-Aerosol Detector.
6056203-5/2/00-Method and Apparatus for Modifying Supercooled Clouds.
6030506-2/29/00-Preparation of Independently Generated Highly Reactive Chemical Species.
5984239-11/16/99-Weather Modification by Artificial Satellite.
5762298-6/9/98-Use of Artificial Satellites in Earth Orbits Adaptively to Modify the Effect that Solar Radiation

Would Otherwise Have on Earth’s Weather.
5628455-5/13/97-Method and Apparatus for Modification of Supercooled Fog.
5286979-2/15/94-Process for Absorbing Ultraviolet Radiation Using Dispersed Melanin.
5104069-4/114/92-Apparatus and Method for Ejecting Matter from an Aircraft.
5038664-8/13/94-Method for Producing a Shell of Relativisitic Particles at an Altitude Above the Earth’s Surface.
4999637-3/12/91-Creation of Artificial Ionization Clouds Above the Earth.
4873928-10/17/89-Nuclear-Sized Explosions without Radiation.
4686605-8/11/87-Method and Apparatus for Altering a Region in the Earth’s Atmosphere, Ionosphere, and/or

5218374-6/8/93-Power Beaming System with Printer Circuit Radiating Elements Having Resonating Cavities.

Patent for Spraying Heavy Metals To Stop Global Warming

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 11:39 AM
Ill go on record saying I do not believe in chemtrails.

I do believe in contrails and have since 1943. And these are only radial engines at 20-25000 feet. Not higher temp turbofans at 35-40000 feet. You know.....where its colder.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 03:18 PM

Originally posted by nomadrush
Ah ok - well I am new to the chemtrail theory so am not on top of all of this as yet. All I do know is that the cloud formations over Glastonbury at the moment are NOT natural.


There may well be contrails forming ahead of the incoming front. Too much low level cloud around here to tell.

Aircraft do create manmade clouds and these can persist in some cases for days. As well as spoiling what should be clear sunny days, or indeed clear nights (astronomers are especially concerned) they may also be a contributory factor in global warming.

They are not being produced deliberately, but the more we fly the more they occur and the situation is predicted to get worse.

Unfortunately there is as yet little impetus to change things. Although the military are (understandably) keen on research to find ways of avoiding such trails from forming. Alternatively, changing flight patterns and timings may help

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 04:56 PM
reply to post by TruthTellist

Nice post thanks for sharing that, sounds very true from here! I'l check out those links and hope you lot do the same. Patents for weather modification sure do leave me open minded.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 08:13 PM
reply to post by Manasseh

nice work on your post,thanks

test & heal yourself from chemtrails..

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posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:12 PM
For information on how Chemtrails affect your health, read
Chemtrail Patents:
Method and apparatus for altering a region in the earth's atmosphere, ionosphere, and/or magnetosphere
United States Patent 4,686,605 / Eastlund / August 11, 1987
A method and apparatus for altering at least one selected region which normally exists above the earth's surface. The region is excited by electron cyclotron resonance heating to thereby increase its charged particle density. In one embodiment, circularly polarized electromagnetic radiation is transmitted upward in a direction substantially parallel to and along a field line which extends through the region of plasma to be altered. The radiation is transmitted at a frequency which excites electron cyclotron resonance to heat and accelerate the charged particles. This increase in energy can cause ionization of neutral particles which are then absorbed as part of the region thereby increasing the charged particle density of the region.
Method of modifying weather
United States Patent 6,315,213 / Cordani / November 13, 2001
A method for artificially modifying the weather by seeding rain clouds of a storm with suitable cross-linked aqueous polymer. The polymer is dispersed into the cloud and the wind of the storm agitates the mixture causing the polymer to absorb the rain. This reaction forms a gelatinous substance which precipitate to the surface below. Thus, diminishing the clouds ability to rain.
Process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation using dispersed melanin
United States Patent / 5,286,979 / Berliner / February 15, 1994
This invention is a process for absorbing ultraviolet radiation in the atmosphere by dispersing melanin, its analogs, or derivatives into the atmosphere. By appropriate choice of melanin composition, size of melanin dispersoids, and their concentration, the melanin will absorb some quantity of ultraviolet radiation and thereby lessen its overall effect on the critters who would normally absorb such radiation.
Liquid atomizing apparatus for aerial spraying
United States Patent / 4,948,050 / Picot / August 14, 1990
A rotary liquid spray atomizer for aerial spraying is driven by a variable speed motor, driven in turn by power from a variable speed AC generator. The generator is driven from a power take-off from the engine of the spraying aircraft, a drive assembly includes a device for controlling the speed of the generator relative to the speed of the engine. The particularly convenient drive assembly between the generator and the power take-off is a hydraulic motor, which drives the generator, driven by a hydraulic pump driven from the power take-off. The speed of the hydraulic motor can be controllably varied. Conveniently the AC motor is a synchronous motor.
Laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying of liquids
United States Patent / 4,412,654 Yates / November 1, 1983
A laminar microjet atomizer and method of aerial spraying involve the use of a streamlined body having a slot in the trailing edge thereof to afford a quiescent zone within the wing and into which liquid for spraying is introduced. The liquid flows from a source through a small diameter orifice having a discharge end disposed in the quiet zone well upstream of the trailing edge. The liquid released into the quiet zone in the slot forms drops characteristic of laminar flow. Those drops then flow from the slot at the trailing edge of the streamlined body and discharge into the slipstream for free distribution.
United States Patent: - US3813875 / Issued/Filed Dates: June 4, 1974 / April 28, 1972
A chemical system for releasing a good yield of free barium (Ba°) atoms and barium ions (BA+) to create ion clouds in the upper atmosphere and interplanetary space for the study of the geophysical properties of the medium. Inventor(s): Paine; Thomas O. Administrator of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration with respect to an invention of , Hampton, VA 23364

NASA: BARIUM - Chemical Formulas/Suppliers
source: gisgaia
This is the "Description of Preferred Embodiments" link in the NASA Barium Patent listed above. Astounding that this information was generated in l969 and now,30 years later, there is evidence of Barium saturation in our atmosphere.
The Barium/Fuel mixtures are listed below along with the suppliers.

Description of Preferred Embodiments:
Referring now to the drawings and more particularly to FIG. 1, there is shown a segment of a suitable carrier vehicle 10, such for example a rocket motor. Vehicle 10 is employed to carry fuel tank 11, insulated oxidizer tank 13 and combustion chamber 15, along with the necessary instrumentation, from earth into the upper atmosphere or into interplanetary space. Fuel tank 11 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 and oxidizer tank 13 is in fluid connection with combustion chamber 15 by way of respective conduits 17 and 19. A pair of valves 21 and 23 are disposed within the respective conduits 17 and 19. Valves 21 and 23 are adapted to be selectively and simultaneously opened by a suitable battery-powered timing mechanism, radio signal, or the like, to release the pressurized fuel and oxidizer from tanks 11 and 13. The fuel and oxidizer then flow through conduits 17 and 19 and impinge upon each other through a centrally positioned manifold and suitable jets (not shown) in combustion chamber 15 where spontaneous ignition occurs. The reaction products are then expelled through the open ends of combustion chamber 15 as plasma which includes the desired barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species.
The fuel utilized in fuel tank 11 is either hydrazine (N2 H4) or liquid ammonia (NH3) while the oxidizer employed is selected from the group consisting of liquid fluorine (F2), chlorine trifluoride (ClF3) and oxygen difluoride (OF2). When using hydrazine as the fuel, barium may be dissolved therein as barium chloride, BaCl2, or barium nitrate, Ba(NO3)2, or a combination of the two. When using liquid ammonia as the fuel, barium metal may be dissolved therein. The combination found to produce the highest intensity of Ba° and Ba+ resonance radiation in ground based tests involved a fuel of 16 percent Ba(NO3)2, 17 percent BaCl2 and 67 percent N2 H4 ; and as the oxidizer, the cryogenic liquid fluorine F2 and in which an oxidizer to fuel weight ratio was 1.32.
Other combinations of ingredients tested are set forth in Table I below:
System Optimum O/F Percent
16.7% BaCl2 -
83.3% N2 H4 /ClF3
2.36 68.0
26% BaCl2 -
74% N2 H4 /ClF3
2.08 70.0
50% Ba(NO3)2 -
50% NH3 /ClF3
1.52 -
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
1.19 50.0
16.7% BaCl2 -
83.3% N2 H4 /F2
1.95 68.8
26% BaCl2 -
74% N2 H4 /F2
1.71 70.6
21% BaCl2 -
9% Ba(NO3)2 -
70% N2 H4 /F2
1.57 68.5
17% BaCl2 -
16% Ba(NO3)2 -
67% N2 H4 /F2
1.31 68.1
13% BaCl2 -
21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -
65.5% N2 H4 /F2
1.34 63.7
9% BaCl2 -
30% Ba(NO3)2 -
61% N2 H4 /F2
1.04 63.7
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /F2
0.976 43.0
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -
57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
0.694 46.9
26% BaCL2 -
74% N2 H4 /OF2
1.22 52.8
The conditions under which each of the combinations listed in Table I were tested were ambient and the percentage ionization was calculated by equations set forth in NASA Contract Report CR-1415 published in August 1969.
The chemical supplier and manufacturers stated purity for the various chemicals employed are set forth in Table II below:
Supplier Purity
N2 H4
Olin Mathieson Chemical
Technical Grade
Company, Lake Charles,
97-98% N2 H4
Louisiana (2-3% H2 O)
Air Products and Chemicals
Technical Grade
Allentown, Pa.
J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
Phillipsburg, N.J.
J. T. Baker & Co. Reagent Grade
Phillipsburg, N.J.
F2 Air Products & Chemicals
Allentown, Pa.
Allied Chemical Co.
Baton Rouge, La.
Allied Chemical Co.
Baton Rouge, La.
A solubility study of various mixtures containing Ba(NO3)2, BaCl2 and N2 H4 was made at room temperature and is shown in the triangular plot of FIG. 2. Seven solutions that were used in the tests enumerated in Table I are indicated by reference letters in FIG. 2 as follows:
a. 16.7% BaCl2 - 83.3% N2 H4
b. 26% BaCl2 - 74% N2 H4
c. 21% BaCl2 - 9% Ba(NO3)2 - 70% N2 H4
d. 17% BaCl2 - 16% Ba(NO3)2 - 67% N2 H4
e. 13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4
f. 9% BaCl2 - 30% Ba(NO3)2 - 61% N2 H4
g. 42.9% Ba(NO3)2 - 57.1% N2 H4
A mixture below the Saturation Line, that is toward the Ba(NO3)2 or BaCl2 corners contained a solid and a solution phase whereas the salts were in complete solution above the saturation line.
All fuel mixtures or systems described were easily handled except the 50 percent Ba(NO3)2 -50 percent NH3 system. This system caused clogging of the feed valves due to precipitation of the Ba(NO3)2. In addition the light values obtained using this system was relatively low.
In testing of each of the fuel mixtures set forth in Table I the Ba° light was greater than the Ba+ light for a given oxidizer/fuel ratio in each of the mixtures. The maximum light occurred in all systems at a point located between the stoichiometric O/F and 3 percent less than the stoichiometric O/F. The stoichiometric O/F is defined as being equivalent to the oxidizer to fuel weight ratio in a balanced equation assuming the salt is converted to free Ba, F to HF, Cl to HCl and O to H2 O. For example, one system tested had an O/F ratio of 142 grams oxidizer per 100 grams fuel or 1.42/1.00. If the barium is assumed to be converted to BaF2 then the stoichiometric O/F is 1.47. Since the greatest light output in all cases occurred with O/F less than stoichiometric it is apparent that little of the Ba was combined as BaF2 or BaCl2. This was confirmed by spectrographic analysis.
In Table II the various systems are listed in decreasing light output or relative light intensity as measured by phototubes in millivolts, thereby indicating the relative barium yield.
__________________________________________________ ________
(percent weight for fuel)
INTENSITY, millivolts
Ba° 5535 A
Ba+ 4554 A
__________________________________________________ _________
17% BaCl2 -16% Ba(NO3)2 -67% N2 H4 /F2
13% BaCl2 -21.5% Ba(NO3)2 -65.5% N2 H4 /F2
21% BaCl2 -9% Ba(NO3)2 -70% N2 H4 /F2
9% BaCl2 -30% Ba(NO3)2 -61% N2 H4 /F2
26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /F2
26% BaCl2 -74% N2 H4 /OF2
16.7% BaCl2 -83.3% N2 H4 /F2
9100 3350
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /F2
9000 1800
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /OF2
7300 1330
42.9% Ba(NO3)2 -57.1% N2 H4 /ClF3
663 94
50% Ba(NO3)2 -50% NH3 /ClF3
221 44
__________________________________________________ _________
From the above information, it is readily seen that the 17 percent BaCl2 -16 percent Ba(NO3)2 -67 percent N2 H4 /F2 system gave the greatest amount of light intensity of the 4554 A Ba+ and 5535 A Ba° spectral lines. Ambient tests showed that the optimum oxidizer to fuel ratio of this system was 1.32 to 1.00. This system containing 8.52 weight percent barium was estimated to be 68.1 percent ionized. Also since this system had the largest relative light intensity it would be expected to give the greatest amount of Ba° and Ba+ and would appear to be the optimum system for a barium payload. In all systems tested it was found that the relative light reached a maximum at the O/F corresponding to the stoichiometric equation yielding barium as one of the reaction products and that the relative light output was sensitive to the O/F. Moving to either side of the optimum O/F caused a sharp decrease in relative light.
In vacuum tests the ignition of each system tested was smooth and like the ambient tests, took place in the combustion chamber. The rapid expansion in vacuum caused a decreased atom and ion density in the luminous flame which caused the light intensity to be about 1/37 to 1/50 the intensity measured in ambient tests. The percentage ionization was approximately the same for vacuum and ambient tests.
The operation of the invention is now believed apparent. Initially, fuel tank 11 is charged with the fuel containing the desired quantity of dissolved barium salt and pressurized with helium. The fuel tank pressure may be in the range of 6.89 to 20.06 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2. Oxidizer tank 13 is also charged with the appropriate oxidizer and pressurized. Cryogenic oxidizers such as OF2 and F2 are condensed from gases in the closed oxidizer tank which must be maintained enclosed in a liquid nitrogen bath. The oxidizer feed valve 23 and conduit 19 must also be maintained at liquid nitrogen temperature with a liquid nitrogen jacket when employing a cryogenic oxidizer.
The noncryogenic oxidizer, ClF3, may be pressurized into the closed oxidizer tank 13 from a supply bottle with super dry nitrogen.
Combustion chamber 15 is formed of stainless steel, aluminum, or the like F2 compatible metals and is internally partitioned by the manifold, not shown. The conduits 17 and 19 terminate in a manifold having injector orifices (not shown) mounted 90° to each other within each end of chamber 15 and sized for pressure drops of 5.24 to 10.2 ¥ 105 Newton/meter2 across the orifice. Fuel and oxidizer flows are in the range of 2.05 to 6.82 Kg/sec each. The entire system is carried into the upper atmosphere or interplanetary space by rocket vehicle 10 where, in response to a suitable signal, timing mechanism or the like, valves 21 and 23 may be selectively opened and closed and the pressurized liquid fuel and oxidizer will flow through conduits 17 and 19 into combination unit 15. When the hypergolic liquids impinge upon each other, they spontaneously ignite to expel reaction product gases or plasma including the highly luminous barium neutral atoms and barium ions as individual species. All of the barium reaching the combustion chamber is vaporized and released through the opposite ends thereof so that a high yield efficiency is obtained. The resulting high flame temperature, approximately 4,000°K., and some as yet not determined chemical activation, produces a relatively large amount of barium ions in the flame which is a highly desirable condition. It has been estimated from spectroscopic measurements that the degree of ionization may be as high as 75 percent in the released plasma in comparison to being on the order of 1 percent for the previously used Ba-CuO solid system which depends almost entirely on solar photoionization, a time-dependent phenomena which further reduces the usable barium yield of this known system.
Thus, it is readily apparent that the present invention provides an inherently more efficient process of producing barium clouds wherein the degree of ionization in the released plasma is much greater. The selectively opening and closing of valves 21 and 23 gives the possibility of a payload with multiple releases permitted due to the start and stop capabilities of the liquid system. Also, the liquid system of the present invention gives the possibility of controlling rates so that a trailtype release can be obtained as well as a point-source type. In addition, the liquid system of the present invention effects the formation of barium atoms and ions at the time of combustion and expansion at high temperatures and results in little opportunity for the barium to condense during release.
There are obviously many variations and modifications to the present invention that will be readily apparent to those skilled in the art without departing from the spirit or scope of the disclosure or from the scope of the claims.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:27 PM

Chemtrails UK Government admits deadly spraying

Congressman Admits Chemtrail's

In what may be the first governmental acknowledgement of its kind, a public official from Cleveland, Ohio has referenced "chemtrails" in a bill put before congress. Congressman Dennis Kucinich (D) has submitted bill no. HR 2977 IH , which proposes a ban on the weaponization of space. One of the weapons systems listed in the bill is "chemtrails". The use of this term is significant because until now, all reported governmental inquiries into this issue have been dismissed or denied. Agencies such as the Air Force have routinely called reports of chemtrails "a hoax". CONGRESSMAN ACKNOWLEDGES CHEMTRAILS
1949 U.S. Army begins 20 years of simulated germ warfare attacks against American cities, conducting at least 239 open air tests.
1950Sept. 20-26. One of the biggest experiments involved the use of Serratia marcescens and bacillus globigi being sprayed over 117 square miles of the San Francisco area, causing pneumonia-like infections in many of the residents. The family of one elderly man who died in the test sued the government, but lost. To this day, syraceus is a leading cause of death among the elderly in the San Francisco area.
1955 Another case was the joint Army-CIA Biological Warfare test in 1955, still classified, in which an undisclosed bacteria was released in the Tampa Bay region of Florida, causing a dramatic increase in whooping cough infections, including twelve deaths.The Population Control Agenda Pt.2
Whocould doubt the validity of the claim that the Government is guilty of poisoning us with today's Chemtrail's after looking at their past offences of the same act.
Symptoms from Chemtrail sprayings
It is being reported that people with average or below average immunity are experiencing pneumonia-like respiratory symptoms, while people with stronger immunity are only experiencing slight discomfort for a day or two or no symptoms at all. Some people have gotten very ill and the symptoms seem to keep returning after a short period of improvement. It's possible that some of these sprayings might contain special bio-engineered pathogens designed to affect only certain racial groups. Chemtrail's: NWO Flu
Texas RevengeA possible cure for this flu?
Airline Manager - Chemtrail's Are Real And Called 'Project Cloverleaf'
Are Chemtrail's the Humane Way?

The following excerpt was taken from an outline of a Government Project: The Wildlands Project.
...Humanity must drastically scale down its industrial activities on Earth, change its consumption lifestyles, stabilize and then reduce the size of the human population by humane means, and protect and restore wild ecosystems and the remaining wildlife on the planet." The Wildlands Project
After my article The Timeline of Population Control was posted at Jeff Rense .com, the above quote was removed, and their site has since moved. However their views remain the same and the article A Wilderness View by Tom Butler editor of Wild Earth from their new site still reflects reduction of human population by so called humane means.

Thiswhole chemtrail issue is related to the plan for decreasing the world population to around 450-500 million -- and starting with the US first.Another dark chemtrail hypothesis
I rememberVice President Gore -- he was just elected at that time -- giving a keynote address about reducing population. And I thought, 'What? Do the American people know what's going on?The U.N.'s Shocking Agenda

Chemtrail's in the Sky While all flights grounded after the World Trade Center Attack
Chemtrail's In The Skies While All Airlines Were Grounded

Chemtrail Resources
Everything you ever wanted to know about chemtrails, persistent contrails, aerosol operations, aerial spraying, HARRP, weather modification...

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:29 PM
Clifford E Carnicom
Aug 20 2003
The United States Air Force Office of Special Investigations, Andrews Air Force base, has recently demonstrated an increased level of interest in the research that is available on that examines the aerosol operations. Particular interest has been repeatedly indicated in the page entitled Air Force Increases Rank of Lie, which was posted on May 22 2001. This post involves a statement issued by the United States Air Force from Walter M. Washabaugh, Colonel, USAF Chief, Congressional Inquiry Division Office of Legislative Liason, to Senator Barbara Feinstein on behalf of a constituent.
In this statement, the United States Air Force has established itself on record as stating that the aerosol operations are a "hoax", and that these same aerosol operations have been adequately investigated and refuted by both the media and academia of this country. The definition of the words "lie" and "hoax" have made available to the public at the top of the relayed letter. Citizens may also wish to become familiar with an earlier letter issued by the United States Air Force contained on the web page entitled Air Force Lies to America., posted on Sep 11 2000. The definitions of the words lie and hoax are also available to the public on that page as well.
The description of AFOSI is stated as follows:
"The Air Force Office of Special Investigations is a field operating agency with headquarters at Andrews Air Force Base, Md. It has been the Air Force's felony-level investigative service since August 1, 1948. The agency reports to the Inspector General, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force."
The interest of Bolling Air Force base, advertised as "The Chief's Own", has also recently been demonstrated in the information available to the public on
Clifford E Carnicom
Aug 20 2003

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:31 PM
This letter authored by Michael K. Gibson, Lt. Col., USAF
This document received by email on September 11 2000
Posted by Clifford E Carnicom
September 11 2000
"hoax (n.)- An act intended to deceive or trick."
"lie (n) - 1. A false statement deliberately presented as true.
(v) 2. To convey a false image or impression."
The American Heritage Dictionary, 3rd Edition, 1994.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:39 PM
The H-Word

* Guardian, Saturday August 31 2002
* Margaret Talbot

Last autumn, something peculiar began to happen at more than two dozen elementary and middle schools scattered across the US. Suddenly, groups of children started breaking out in itchy red rashes that seemed to fade away when the children went home and to re-emerge when they returned to school. Frustratingly for the federal, state and county health officials who were working (...)
(...) not have fuelled such florid, conspiratorial discussion on the internet - it was "chemtrails" from aeroplanes; it was books on Islam donated to schools by (...)
Books on Islam, 'chemtrails' from planes, a terrorist attack, a toxin, a virus, anthrax: what (...)

Chemtrails - Lab Report On Air Grab Thru HEPA Filter

'This is the final Lab Report RE: air material analysis. This was a 28 day collection via HEPA filter, 8 hours per day collection. Please note the extremely high Aluminum reading 12,800,000 ppb.'

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Multicolored Chemtrails

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This Milwaukee TV meteorologist shows pictures of local chemtrails and then says it's just harmless water vapor from jet exhaust.

Chief Meteorologist Vince Condella has a blog entry about this topic here:

Here's his video bio:

And his work email address:

If you know chemtrails are real and feel Vince needs to get the facts straight, you need to send him an email and post a blog entry.
It's a Great Day For Contrails! - Fox News Chemtrails

I'm sure Vince will appreciate learning about the dangers of breathing high levels of barium, aluminum and biological agents. He needs to get enough emails with the facts on chemtrails and HAARP to let him know we're aware of the truth.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:41 PM
Danger In The Sky - The Chemtrail Phenomenon

The largest coordinated global engineering project in the history of our species. People across the world are noticing planes crossing back and forth in the sky leaving in their wake a trail of vapor that does not evaporate. These are not your normal commercial airlines following a preordained path from city to city. The mysterious unmarked planes leave smoke-like trails behind them that spread until by the afternoon they have blossomed and grown until the skies have become overcast. Officials from the Air Traffic Control the EPA and the Air Force will not respond to questions regarding this phenomenon.

Furthermore, the recent proclamation issued on April 20 2001 by a Walter M. Washabaugh, Colonel, USAF, Chief, Congressional Inquiry Division, Office of Legislative Liason that "The term "chemtrail" is a hoax that began circulating approximately three years ago..." and that "The 'chemtrail' hoax has been investigated and refuted by many established and accredited universities, scientific organizations and major media publications." is also entitled to an eventual reckoning with its author.
Readers may also wish to become familiar with the recently (belatedly?) released 1999 U.S. mortality statistics, which show an increase in chronic lower respiratory deaths. The category of "chronic lower respiratory disease" now ranks as one of the five leading causes of death within the United States.
All data under examination, including federal sources, now requires corroboration and independent verification to assure its validity

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:44 PM
Chemtrails are long and line-shaped cloud formations artificially created by flying aircrafts which are NOT formed by condensation of water vapor in the aircraft's exhausts. While in fact the typical white trails left by traditional airplanes flying at high altitude last only a few minutes and are formed by condensation of water vapor in the aircraft's exhausts (contrails), chemtrails are supposedly filled with chemical substances employed specifically for supposed atmospheric and weather modification, biological testing or other classified purposes.

Chemtrails are therefore an unproven theory as well as a movement of independent investigative researchers trying to understand whether unusual cloud-like trail formations being documented across world skies are indeed a systematic, high-altitude dumping of unknown substances for some classified missions or simple white contrails generated by normal airliners.
Conspiracy theories around chemtrails want these cloud-like trails criss-crossing the skies be part of a secret testing system to counter the effects of global warming. Others have written about the possibility that chemtrails could be instead wireless military devices to provide greater support for communications networks and radar systems.

All of those suggesting ambiguous and possibly dangerous consequences of such chemtrails maintain that these trails have an appearance and quality different from those of normal water-based contrails. Indeed when looking at the large visual documentation available, chemtrails seem not to be consistent with the well-known properties of traditional contrails.
On the news front, the first to report with some impact about chemtrails was American journalist William Thomas, who in 1997, reported about trails released by aircraft which looked much different from the normal contrails. Mr. Thomas research gave birth to a series of conspiracy theories whose unifying factor is based on the belief that some kind of chemical or biological agent is being secretly released by aircrafts in the skies for either weather modification, biological testing or military purposes.
While right now we have no definite proof on whether governments like the American one have a direct involvement in this operations, many of the "chemtrails conspiracists" argue that the weather modification track has indeed some interesting facts to it. In particular the strong desire to be able to modify weather conditions via unconventional methods was clearly in the minds of US legislators who approved and enacted the Weather Modification Research & Technology Act in 2005.
The chemtrails phenomenon is not localized only in the US. Many witnesses around the world keep on documenting and reporting chemtrails with pictures, medical reports and suits to local municipalities but with little, or I should say, inexistent coverage from the mainstream media.
This is particularly worrisome as, increasingly, chemtrails reports from different parts of the globe include cases of illness and other unpleasant mental and bodily symptoms from civilians living in areas below the sprayed area.
Here is the most interesting data I was able to collect on the topic, while remaining objective, and searching both for "conspiracists views" as well as for more conservative ones.

When did it start?
The first researches about chemtrails were conducted by William Thomas, a professional working journalist who first reported on chemtrails for the Environment News Service in the winter of 1997 and since then, thousands of websites have appeared claiming various theories and agendas behind a phenomenon witnessed in the skies over 14 nations.
Thomas noted that chemtrail samples were analyzed and revealed that they contained many deadly and toxic pathogens including Mycoplasma Fermetens Incognitus (the same bioengineered pathogen that Dr Garth Nicholson of the Institute of Molecular Medicine had discovered in about 45% of the veterans who came down with Gulf War Illness).
Thomas found that Mycoplasma, however, was only one pathogen among a group of highly toxic substances analyzed from the chemtrail residues. Williams also released a downloadable documentary on chemtrails explaining his theory in details.
Thomas' study of chemtrails took place some years before the US Congress approved the Weather Modification Research & Technology Act in 2005 in which the American government stated its purpose to promote artificial interventions to modify weather conditions.

posted on Sep, 8 2008 @ 09:45 PM
U.k. government has admitted to spraying British public with deadly toxins.
Link to Guardian article

One chapter of the report, 'The Fluorescent Particle Trials', reveals how between 1955 and 1963 planes flew from north-east England to the tip of Cornwall along the south and west coasts, dropping huge amounts of zinc cadmium sulphide on the population. The chemical drifted miles inland, its fluorescence allowing the spread to be monitored. In another trial using zinc cadmium sulphide, a generator was towed along a road near Frome in Somerset where it spewed the chemical for an hour.

While the Government has insisted the chemical is safe, cadmium is recognised as a cause of lung cancer and during the Second World War was considered by the Allies as a chemical weapon.

In another chapter, 'Large Area Coverage Trials', the MoD describes how between 1961 and 1968 more than a million people along the south coast of England, from Torquay to the New Forest, were exposed to bacteria including e.coli and bacillus globigii , which mimics anthrax. These releases came from a military ship, the Icewhale, anchored off the Dorset coast, which sprayed the micro-organisms in a five to 10-mile radius.

The report also reveals details of the DICE trials in south Dorset between 1971 and 1975. These involved US and UK military scientists spraying into the air massive quantities of serratia marcescens bacteria, with an anthrax simulant and phenol.

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