Obama will actually vote to "help" Hawaii split from the US. , page 1
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Topic started on 6-9-2008 @ 09:54 AM by Dronetek
After all the hand wringing about Palin's husband having tenuous connections to an Alaskan succession group, I found it quite funny that Obama will vote to help Hawaii secede from the US.

en.wikipedia.org...
The Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act of 2007 (S. 310, H.R. 505), a bill currently before the United States Congress, is commonly known as the Akaka Bill after U.S. Senator Daniel Akaka, D-HI, who has proposed various forms of this bill since 2000. The Akaka bills proposed between 2000 and the present seek to establish a process for Native Hawaiians to gain federal recognition similar to the recognition that some Native American tribes currently possess.[1] The House version of the bill (H.R. 505) passed on October 24, 2007[2].


www.hawaiireporter.com...
"The only advocate who was comprehensive and charismatic was Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, D-IL, who shared personal insights as a former resident of Hawaii on how the bill will help Hawaii.


Given Obama's history and mentors, it doesn't surprise me tat he can explain why getting away from the US will help them.



The bill was even admitted to be the first step in splitting Hawaii from the US. From the same article:
"The Senator (Akaka) attempted to backtrack on a highly inflammatory statement he made in a 2005 interview on National Public Radio, during which he admitted the Akaka Bill could lead to Hawaii’s secession from the United States. His 2005 statement, which he unsuccessfully attempted to clarify a couple of days later, sent shockwaves throughout political and media circles across the country."


Is this worse than what Palin's husband did? Will the media pay any attention to this, or will they report on it like they did Palin?



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reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 10:40 AM by bknapple32
are you familiar with what the bill is? Or do you just google it and go with wikipedia?


Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama (Illinois) today released a statement expressing his acknowledgement and support of the Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act, otherwise known as the Akaka Bill.

The former Hawai'i resident and Punahou School graduate released the following statement today, through his local campaign committee:

"Hawaii has always acknowledged and celebrated diversity, and an important part of Hawaii's culture is the Native Hawaiian people. For this reason, I am proud to support Senators Daniel Akaka and Daniel Inouye in their efforts to extend the federal policy of self-governance and self-determination to Native Hawaiians.

The Native Hawaiian Government Reorganization Act provides both the process and opportunity for Native Hawaiian communities to engage themselves in and reorganize their governing entity to establish a federally recognized government-to-government relationship with the United States. The process set forth in this important legislation empowers Native Hawaiians to explore and address the longstanding issues resulting from the overthrow of the kingdom of Hawaii.

As Americans, we pride ourselves on safeguarding the practice and ideas of liberty, justice, and freedom. By enacting this legislation, we can continue this great American tradition and fulfill this promise for Native Hawaiians and ensure that they are not left behind as Hawaii continues to progress.

This is an important bill, and if it is not signed into law this year, I will commit to supporting it as president."

Hawai'i native rights attorney Bill Meheula added, "This statement of support comes from a leader with an impeccable record on civil rights. It also reminds us that Senator Obama is not a national leader who needs to be briefed on local issues. Being from here, he knows what is important from the inside out."

Akaka bill

The native traditions of Hawaii die away every generation. This bill is a way to curb that and try and bring back some old traditions and Hawaii ways of life. We will not be left with 49 states. Stop continuing the garbage...

throw enough crap on the wall and see what sticks eh?



reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 11:19 AM by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by Fathom



Yet another unfounded opinion. Wow, I am very surprised to see the racism prevalent in this thread. Misguided racism, actually. These people don't even know who they are basing their ignorant hatred against!

No wonder these folks support McCain.

[edit on 6-9-2008 by Jay-in-AR]


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 11:24 AM by bknapple32
reply to post by Jay-in-AR



I would venture to guess that the racism exhibited here does not reflect your average Mccain supporter.


So we have decided that native Hawaiians are junkies based on DOG??? Wow, I wonder what a foreigner does when they watch COPS.



reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 11:26 AM by Dronetek
reply to post by bknapple32



If you read the article I posted, Akakka admitted it was the first step in splitting from the US. It says he back tracked form that message, but unsuccessfully.

Anyway, I just posted it to show another instance where the media looks in to one side, but not the other.

reply to post by bknapple32



I would venture to guess that the racism exhibited here does not reflect your average Mccain supporter.


Its one guy and Its a stretch to call that racism.

[edit on 6-9-2008 by Dronetek]


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 11:33 AM by bknapple32
reply to post by Dronetek



A stretch? If one says that all black people are crack heads, I surely would call that racism, same rule applies here.

And the Akaka bill..


Lingle also said the Akaka Bill "will not set up a foreign nation in Hawaii" and that the bill's "very purpose is to allow native Hawaiians to reform and restore the governmental structure that the United States has since acknowledged it had a substantial hand in destroying."

akaka bill


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 12:06 PM by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by Dronetek



The media hasn't touched this in relation to Obama because it is a non-issue. This is a matter of what is right. If anything, media attention on this story would shine light on Obama in a positive way.
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