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Originally posted by mister.old.school
Do you have any data to support what appears to be vacuous rhetoric?
All of the jobs data I've seen indicates the vast majority of those being "laid off" are within the ranks of middle management and skilled workers -- hence job categories well above the minimum wage mark.
Please help us understand your rationale by supplying supporting information, or at least historic comparisons, that substantiate your position.
Originally posted by KaginD
Okay. First of all, I never questioned your educational background (which at the moment seems slim to none) so don't ever question my work history or knowledge of where my money is going.
It seems to me that if anyone questions your reasoning you become very insulting and agitated. Don't post a thread if your going to get upset and insulting if people question it.
Originally posted by jamie83
And if Obama's plan is so great for businesses, why haven't any big businesses come out and endorsed it?
Now this time, in your own words, try explaining how higher corporate taxes and higher minimum wage is going to create more jobs.
Originally posted by mental modulator
THE difference is like school fair and las vegas.
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by KaginD
Okay. First of all, I never questioned your educational background (which at the moment seems slim to none) so don't ever question my work history or knowledge of where my money is going.
What are you talking about? Don't ever question your work history? Why?
It seems to me that if anyone questions your reasoning you become very insulting and agitated. Don't post a thread if your going to get upset and insulting if people question it.
Very insulting?? OMG.... what do you consider an insult? I just asked if you had any experience in the real world to understand how much people get paid under the table. This is very insulting to ask? For all I know you could be a college student who never had a job.
And back on topic, can you explain how increasing the minimum wage and increasing corporate taxes will increase jobs?
Originally posted by mental modulatorS.
BIG business hold no allegiance to the red white an blue.
lets say that Obamas plan puts 2,000 into the pockets of 200,000,000 families
thats $400,000,000,000 less the 10% saved ( which would likely be in a bank to help capitalize )
$360,000,000,000 in the market which would be spent - earned by business.
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by KaginD
And back on topic, can you explain how increasing the minimum wage and increasing corporate taxes will increase jobs?
Increasin minimum wage stimulates the economy because minimum wage workers typically spend 100% of every pay check...
Where do you thing the money goes Jamie?
WHERE?
A minimum wage work spend the extra $20 buck a month at star bucks, or wal mart
on gas, on bullets to shot themselves... THIS equal income for businesses.
Where is the dis connect?
Republicans have lost your way completely...
FOR all who care about their country here DWIGHT EISHOWER R taxed the top 1%
AT A 90% rate.
THE 50's was a boom time. Republicans used to have it... Not anymore
Just sell our country piece by piece, we will be like MEXICO in ten years.
Jamie this is why MEXICO is so f ed up!
Originally posted by KaginD
Jamie, you've got to be kidding me. I asked you to post a source so I can read more into detail about what your thread was referring to. What just happened was you had an opportunity to educate me on a topic about corporate taxes that I don't know much about, and instead you got defensive because I said that all politicians are the same which was my opinion and started questioning me about weather I have worked in the "real world".
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by KaginD
Jamie, you've got to be kidding me. I asked you to post a source so I can read more into detail about what your thread was referring to. What just happened was you had an opportunity to educate me on a topic about corporate taxes that I don't know much about, and instead you got defensive because I said that all politicians are the same which was my opinion and started questioning me about weather I have worked in the "real world".
My sincerest apologies for taking your initial post the wrong way. After reading so many personal attacks I lumped your post into the same category.
Likewise, I didn't mean to insult you by asking about your "real world" experience. That came out wrong and could have been worded in a way less offensive to you.
Sorry.
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by mental modulatorS.
BIG business hold no allegiance to the red white an blue.
Great point. Which is exactly why the U.S. needs to focus on creating an environment that appeals to big business. If the U.S. is friendly towards businesses, the economy will grow.
lets say that Obamas plan puts 2,000 into the pockets of 200,000,000 families
thats $400,000,000,000 less the 10% saved ( which would likely be in a bank to help capitalize )
$360,000,000,000 in the market which would be spent - earned by business.
What are you talking about? Obama is going to put $400 billion into the pockets of 200 million people, who are then going to spend $360 billion that will trickle up to the big businesses?
Where is the $400 billion going to come from?
Here's a newsflash.... no government program and economic plan has ever created wealth.
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by mental modulator
THE difference is like school fair and las vegas.
Great comparison. From the moment you walk off a plane in Las Vegas EVERYTHING is designed to remove money from your pockets. It's all smoke and mirrors, misdirections, and style over substance. I think Las Vegas is where styrofoam columns originated.
Repeatedly posting what Obama tells you how much better off you're going to be isn't really adding to the discussing.
So please, stay on topic.
Can you explain how increasing minimum wage and corporate taxes is going to create jobs?
Originally posted by bknapple32
honestly with all the negative posts by jaime, its a wonder why the mods have to post threads telling us to settle down. I have not seen one positive post from jaime. It is allllllll posted to try and tear down Obama.
Lets face it. Both candidates have done more for our country than anyone on this forum. Cept for anyone in the armed forces. These are TWO great Americans. They are putting themselves out there to be torn down by people like jaime, because they BOTH want to help our country back to a better path.
Im so sick of seeing posts describing one of the candidates like they are from the third riche
Originally posted by bknapple32
honestly with all the negative posts by jaime, its a wonder why the mods have to post threads telling us to settle down. I have not seen one positive post from jaime. It is allllllll posted to try and tear down Obama.
Lets face it. Both candidates have done more for our country than anyone on this forum. Cept for anyone in the armed forces. These are TWO great Americans. They are putting themselves out there to be torn down by people like jaime, because they BOTH want to help our country back to a better path.
Im so sick of seeing posts describing one of the candidates like they are from the third riche
Originally posted by KaginD
No hard feelings, I just like to gain knowledge on ATS. Thats what I am here for
Originally posted by mental modulator
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by mental modulator
THE difference is like school fair and las vegas.
Great comparison. From the moment you walk off a plane in Las Vegas EVERYTHING is designed to remove money from your pockets. It's all smoke and mirrors, misdirections, and style over substance. I think Las Vegas is where styrofoam columns originated.
Repeatedly posting what Obama tells you how much better off you're going to be isn't really adding to the discussing.
So please, stay on topic.
Can you explain how increasing minimum wage and corporate taxes is going to create jobs?
No you have it backwards, VEGAS--- MAKES MONEY, REVENUE & SUPPLIES JOBS...
IT grows at a staggering rate and rich there get richer by the minute.