If you ave you ever looked at the layers upon layers of the "said plans" of any operation you soon realize that it would boggle the minde, of anybody, if they should try and look at this thing from the outside in.


I try to approach this 911 thing in that fashion. (AL Quida and FARC and such)

Originally posted by Malynn
I don't think Al-Qaida really exists. Not in the sense we think it does. That's my opinion, anyway.

I fully agree. I think Al Qaida was thought up. If you think about it it's the perfect plan to start the End Times going. Use this group to carry out false flags or whatever then retaliate against the apparent country responsible. Right after 911 Al Qaida was only in 2 countries, remember? Now they're world-wide. The group is the perfect Government Front or Dummy Corporation.

They can find Saddam in a hole 10 feet underground under a tree, but can't find Bin Laden in a "cave?" And he can carry out all these communications and plan things and organize complicated attacks and we can't find any signal, any heat signature, any trace of paper or electronic trail? Please. It's because he doesn't exist.

Like the movie Darkman: I'm everyone, and no one. Everywhere, yet nowhere.

You got it right, they don't exists in the terms most people think.

Humm, alot of polls show McCain and Obama to be tied and the Al-CIAda comes up with a video warning of new attacks? what a coincedence!!!

Originally posted by Malynn
I don't think Al-Qaida really exists. Not in the sense we think it does. That's my opinion, anyway.

I also don't believe they exist either. If any attack happens don't they know that the Muslims in the West will be even more intolerent than they are right now??. I somehow get the feeling that someday the West will target them one by one because of their not assimilateing to the culture of the West. I hope that I am wrong.

Honestly folks, how much of the Al-Qaida propaganda do we have to swallow? The propaganda game is often directed at dates and events that have world wide coverage.

*Terrorism is only effective if you buy into the hype.

When it comes down to Al Qaida and the so-called war on terror I'm afraid I don't believe a word that our leaders tell us. Every time the governments of America or the UK want to give the general public a jolt in the arm they suddenly put out these types of warnings. Its all designed to unsettle you. To stop you relaxing to a state where you can see all the other s**t that going on around us. It will get that way in the end that the day before every budget some government spook will pop up to tell us that we're all doomed in Bin Ladens latest terror plot. You soon forget how much your petrol costs, or how much money it takes to keep your house warm when some fool is telling you that unless they take a couple of more of our civil liberties away we're all going to vaporise in a mushroom cloud.
Don't believe a word of it!

Originally posted by yellowcard
I can't believe so many people here believe this is all fake and made by the CIA, that's not even logical.

MY thoughts exactly...

You just have to remember that ANYONE can access this site...

Any Pervert...
Any Moron...
Any Druggie...
Any Degenerate...
Any Retard...
Any Sicko...

There is no test for logic. No bar set for reason...
Anyone can come, and spew nonsense...
Speak truth, and you could get banned...

Anyone can access this site...
So, after MANY MANY threads dealing with the above people, you just must come to realise something...

Upwards of 50% of the poeple that frequent ATS are INCAPIBLE of logical thought, or reason...

Show them a Video of Islamo-Facists, cutting the throught of an American, and all they can say is that it is faked by the CIA...

Tell them that you were at NYC, and saw planes SMASH into buildings, and they will say, ' Those were just holograms'...

These are the poeple that would welcome invaders to this country... People that would bow down to them, only to have thier throught slit...

A moron is a moron... And leave it at that...

There is a billion ways to say that...

"I can only show you the door, you have to open it"
"You can take a horse to water, but can't make him drink"

And many others...



Some people see the truth...
Some people only see part of the truth...
Some people NEVER see the truth...


There is an Enemy of the West out there...
Thankfuly, they are incompetent swine, and for the most part, or little or no threat to us...

The middle eastern people are waiting to see who is the winner, so they have backed off but are building in the back ground.
If McCain wins and his idea of staying for as long as it takes to win. Whatever that means, and that is trouble for the USA.

If you underestimate the holy war mindset of the Muslims you might be sadly surprised. I could be way off on this but maybe I'm not.

I fail to see how this being an election year would promt the US to fake attacks on it's own people., but then again, I am not paranoid. I am a voter, a US citizen, and hearing that more threats have been issued against S the US does not sway my vote one way or the other. It doesn't have anything to do with my vote, or how I will vote.
I see attacks all over the world by Al Quaida, not just the US, it is my perception, not based on what the news or the US government says, but by my own research and visits to websites NOT of the US, that Al Quaida does in fact exsist, and intends to clean the world, not just the US, but the entire world, of those who are not under ALLah.

Amazing, what depths some people will stoop to in order to cling on to their pet hatreds..

Tkainzero,

IF you had éver taken the time to investigate 9/11 you would know not all is what it appears to be.

If you had ever researched history you would know this should not come as a surprise, either..

Bush once said he wants to 'defend our liberties and our way of life'.. and he goes about that by taking away our freedoms and destroying our way of life. Qui bono ?

But it is so much easier to get into a bout of baseless character assassination calling people names then to pull your head out of the goverment-spin clouds, neh ?

Fear is the worst kind of advisor, and your post reaks of so much fear the letters are allmost shaky.

[edit on 7-9-2008 by Phatcat]

So it is OK to enforce our political system on them, and to wage war for regional control? It's OK to kill thousands based on unproven assumptions?

I wonder what màde some muslims fanatical to begin with.

If they have homes, a job, are free to practice their religion and have a loving family, I doubt they'd become Jihadi's.

but those homes get bombed, same with the factorys they could get jobs in. their religion gets looked on with suspicion and disdain, and their familys either risk being shot or did get shot..

In this climate, fanatiscism has a breeding ground. And since the "war on terror" this climate has exponentially exploded (no pun intended)
IF the US of A would be doing such a great job, why then is Iraq ànd Afghanistan becoming more and more a quagmire of fanatics ?

I hope your children get home safe.. I do not wish death on anybody, not even mercenarys who are deluded into thinking they are doing something worthwhile. Chances are growing dayly they come home minus a limb or two, or in a casket though.. violence is a spiral which only intensifys, untill someone in charge has the brains to try and talk to each other instead of blowing each other's brains out on sight..

Every religion has people who misinterpret their religion's teachings so they can validate their murderous actions. And I am not saying Arabs are completely innocent boyscouts.. the expertise they use to kill has been tought them by the CIA though.. and their actions do not benefit their own people, but the NWO smiles with glee.

There are also Christian militant groups who feel they are called to kill 'for God'. I wish all these fanatics could be thrown into a stadium with baseball bats and swords, then they can kill each other without killing unrelated bystanders.. heck, might make a great show for prime time saturday..

Peace..

i will repeat ones more .. the following. a terror attack will happen and that will happen every election for the US presidency .. we have seen in it with Clinton's first term the Muslim radicals made a terror attack on the world trade towers one which failed to accomplice what they want.. but they tested the reaction of the new president. And in the first term of president W. Bush we had the attacks of 9/11 .. they new the reaction then of the W. Bush .. so they didn't do an attack in its second term but now we will have a new president on its first term in office and the terrorists and leaders in Iran want to test the newly elected .. Iran is in favor for Obama and that is that they know a military experienced like McCain has more experience to deal with them and Obama will only try to talk and use diplomacy to deal with them and McCain will use military action as an option.

But be prepared for the coming year as an attack or an event by Muslim radicals or a the nation of Iran on US ground or interests. To test the newly elected president.

Originally posted by yahn goodey

so when al-qad'eda under under the leadership of the former taliban osama bin laden ordered the attack against the usa on 9-11 in 2001 and murdered 3000 of america's citizens and ruined the health and finances of countless other innocent victims we should have done nothing?
how about pearl harbour?you would have us to have done nothing?

That is only true if you assume forces outside of the US of A had anything to do with 9/11 in the first place.. forces which could not possibly order NORAD to stand down.

I have a strong feeling Larry Silverstein is on a first-name basis with the 'terrorists'.