What Was Your Favorite Barack Obama Line?, page 2
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 09:42 PM by dbates
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The U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003. Obama wasn't able to vote on any of this since he wasn't a senator at this time.


Obama is currently the junior United States Senator from Illinois. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004

en.wikipedia.org...



reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 09:44 PM by Uniceft17
Originally posted by dbates
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The U.S. invaded Iraq in 2003. Obama wasn't able to vote on any of this since he wasn't a senator at this time.


Obama is currently the junior United States Senator from Illinois. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004

en.wikipedia.org...



So because he wasn't a Senator and wasn't able to vote his opinion wasn't revelant?


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:51 PM by Hal9000
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


I think in general, he is referring to the inaction of government to manage the economy. It is debatable as to what role the government should play in the market, but Bush did eventually come up with a bailout for the mortgage crisis, so evidently he thought the government does play a role.

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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:55 PM by jamie83
Originally posted by Hal9000
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I think in general, he is referring to the inaction of government to manage the economy. It is debatable as to what role the government should play in the market, but Bush did eventually come up with a bailout for the mortgage crisis, so evidently he thought the government does play a role.


Ok. I see how that's what his point could be. That said, the way he worded it makes it sound like "not all these problems are the governments fault,' implying that some are.



reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:13 PM by Hal9000
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


Obama was still an Illinois state senator, so he could not vote on whether to go to war in Iraq, but he did go out of his way to give this speech in opposition to it.

Barack Obama's Stirring 2002 Speech Against the Iraq War

Even though he wasn't able to, he still showed how he would have voted on the war, if he could.

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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:31 PM by Chucktah
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I agree with his statement to a point...the fact that Americans SHOULD be able to look towards our leaders for help if we absolutley NEED it, but the fact is, that is exactly what most of our ancestors were told when they came here. "You're on your own." "Tough luck." "Born into poverty? Pull yourself up by your own bootstraps — even if you don't have boots." Ever heard of Identured Servitude? Many of them gave up their freedom so that we would have the chance to have ours. That is what this country is built on. Hard work, blood sweat, and tears. It's when we start depending on our government for help EVERY time we need it, is when we've gave them too much power. 10% of the time a homless man actually has a legit reason to be asking for help, the other 90% he's looking for a handout...there is a HUGE difference! It's time we get back to the basics. You get out what you put in.


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:49 PM by Hal9000
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.


But at the same time, we should not allow people to starve in the richest nation of the World. We should not deny someone who needs heath care in the richest nation of the World. We should not let someone who has lost a job, loose everything they own. We should not keep a bright student out of college because they cannot afford it. What we should do is encourage kids to not only finish High School, but continue their education. They will need it in this global economy.

Not everyone is born into an environment that fosters education and health care and they should not be penalized, but be given the opportunity to do so.

If we can spend 10 billion dollars a month in Iraq, why can't we use that to better our country? Then some of these people would not be the ones that are despised, and would become productive citizens.

This problem is no different then becoming energy independent. It may be difficult, but we are Americans, and we can accomplish anything we put our minds to.

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reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 12:10 AM by Chucktah
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I agree completley with everything you stated. I hope I didn't come off as anti-assistance. My philosophy is that until every single child in the US is fed and has a doctor and a school, then there is NO excuse to for sending money elswhere! Not in the wealthiest country on earth. But, at the same time, I see a lot of laziness, fraud, and misguided thinking that no matter how much we screw up, there will always be someone there to help you out. Sadly, it all seems to get pulled under the same blanket.


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 12:52 AM by feydrautha
was this in his speech?:



hmm... still, my fav obama lines... so far!

obama: the "no smack" candidate!



reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 01:00 AM by feydrautha
oh wait, i do have even better:

Obama Takes Aim at Palin, Hits His Own Foot

It's getting hard not to notice that the Obama candidacy is a farce. In his latest gaffe, the Obamessiah draws attention to his complete lack of qualifications by declaring — conspicuously falsely — that he's more ready for the presidency than McCain's VP pick:

Barack Obama contends that he is more experienced in executive matters than Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin because he has managed his presidential campaign for the past 18 months.

Speaking on a cable news channel Monday night, the Democratic presidential nominee said he is better prepared to handle a disaster like Hurricane Gustav because of his pursuit of the White House.

"Well, my understanding is that Governor Palin's town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We've got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. So I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the last couple of years," Obama said.

A McCain spokesman observes:

For Barack Obama to argue that he's experienced enough to be president because he's running for president is desperate circular logic and it's laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama's inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin's executive experience managing a budget of over $10 billion and more than 24,000 employees.

Someone had better program a couple of facts into Obama's teleprompter: 1) Palin is no longer a small town mayor, but Governor of Alaska; 2) He's running against McCain, not Palin.

There will soon come a day when only the most pathetic of kooks will admit to having supported Obama.


Source

i am certain i'd vote for "spotted owl" gore before this guy...

is this an elaborate prank the dems are playing on the american people?


reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 06:30 AM by Dronetek
reply to post by Uniceft17



So because he wasn't a Senator and wasn't able to vote his opinion wasn't revelant?


Its easy to run around claiming you didn't support the war, when you didn't have to vote for it. Who knows how he would have voted if he had actually been a senator at the time.

[edit on 6-9-2008 by Dronetek]
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