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Originally posted by iamcamouflage
How is it that the Republicans are now the party of change?
Any answers?
Originally posted by iamcamouflage
reply to post by jamie83
But if McCain wants change in Washington, why did he vote with his party and president so much? When you say change you are implying that what was happening was wrong or is in need of change. If McCain is a 'Maverick' and hold his own ideals, separate from his party, why did he vote with them so much?
Can you provide some good examples of McCain 'bucking' the system? If you are opposed to the system why did you vote with the status quo so frequently?
It is not simple. It is a seriously flawed argument.
Originally posted by jamie83
First, do you have any evidence that McCain voted with Bush 90% of the time, and what are the specific votes?
Who else voted the same?
Were all the votes a mistake?
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And they have a yard sign: "McCain and Palin for REAL Hope and Change". Couldn't they come up with anything on their own? It doesn't show leadership to follow Obama's every single move as they have been, even regarding their own war!
They saw Obama was winning the election, so they followed him. Who could blame them?
Originally posted by jamie83
Seriously, can you name something Obama has DONE that shows he represents change from the same old, same old?
Originally posted by jamie83
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
And they have a yard sign: "McCain and Palin for REAL Hope and Change". Couldn't they come up with anything on their own? It doesn't show leadership to follow Obama's every single move as they have been, even regarding their own war!
They saw Obama was winning the election, so they followed him. Who could blame them?
So what has Obama DONE that is an example of change?
Was the FISA bill change?
Was picking Biden, whose son is a lobbyist for drug companies, change?
Was his career path from Harvard to State Senate to U.S. Senate to POTUS candidate with no private sector experience change?
Is raising taxes on the rich change?
Is raising taxes on oil companies change?
Is inciting class warfare change?
Is being unconditionally pro union change?
Is being unconditionally pro abortion, even late term abortion, change?
Is hiring David Plouffe to run a campaign change?
Not accepting public financing was change. He's the first candidate since it's been implemented to decline it (even though he said he was for it).
Seriously, can you name something Obama has DONE that shows he represents change from the same old, same old?