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Topic started on 5-9-2008 @ 10:49 AM by WAKEurMIND_UP
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Don't be idiots. Think about it Sarah Palin holds a Bachelors of Arts In Journalism from the University of Idaho.
B. Obama hold a J.D. in Law from Harvard. He is obviously well educated enough to become president, a knowledge of law is important. You have to have
at least a masters to be a teacher in many places and we are going to put someone with a b.a. journalism from u. of idaho a heartbeat away from
control of our entire government? in.
This pick disgusts me.
Title updated to correct mistake
source - en.wikipedia.org...
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:51 AM by dariousg
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reply to post by WAKEurMIND_UP
Can we please have this post removed mods? Plain and simple, with the alias being registered today, it is meant to attack and bring out a fight.
It's a senseless argument for too many reasons to discuss here.
Joke.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:52 AM by thisguyrighthere
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Uh-oh. C'mon mods and admins. All this harping you guys were/still are doing in this thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...
here's a chance to back it up.
Let's see what happens.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:53 AM by BanzaiBoy
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Interesting....so if McCain had picked a male candidate to be his VP pick would he be getting as much attention as Palin? Or is Palin only being
covered on the news everyday because she's a woman from Alaska?
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:53 AM by deltaboy
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I have a Bachelors and became an educator.  Don't need Masters for that, except you get paid more for getting Masters. Of course it requires
more than just having a Bachelors or Masters to be an educator.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:56 AM by maria_stardust
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The discussion of the educational background of both candidates and their VP choices is valid.
Please stick to the topic at hand, please.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:02 AM by KaginD
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Obama is running for President. Palin is running for VP. There is no valid reason to compare the Democratic presidential candidate to the Republican
VP candidate. Search for threads on this topic, you'll get a lot of info on the comparisons.. Trust me lol
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:04 AM by vor78
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Who cares? Its not like the educated idiots from the nation's 'elite' educational institutions that we've had running this country for the last
50 years know what the hell they're doing either. No, in fact, they've made a mess.
Maybe its time we acknowledged that perhaps there's something wrong with those institutions, too, and not just our government?
Personally, I don't give a damn what her educational background is, or what Obama's is, or McCain's, or Biden's. Researching her prior to
her selection, I came to the conclusion that she is quite obviously highly intelligent, even if she doesn't come with a stamp of approval from
Harvard. If she has an educational background closer to that of 99.9% of the college-educated American public, that's not a bad thing, IMO. It
certainly isn't an argument you want to make against her to the American public. Good luck making the argument to those people that her experience
in an 'ordinary' college make her unqualified to govern.
Or perhaps are you arguing that we should ditch our Republic in favor of a Plutocracy where only a priviledged few deserve to govern, simply because
they can afford a high dollar education?
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:10 AM by jam321
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George Washington
* College of William and Mary (surveyor's license)
John Adams
* Harvard College
Thomas Jefferson
* College of William and Mary
James Madison
* College of New Jersey (now Princeton University)
James Monroe
* College of William and Mary
John Quincy Adams
* University of Leiden (transferred to Harvard)
* Harvard College
Andrew Jackson
* None
en.wikipedia.org...
Full list at source.
Education is important but not the tell all. I know a lot of people who have higher degrees than I and consider many of them incapable of ever being
leaders.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:11 AM by Dr Love
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion. I'd be willing to bet that this thread was actually started by a Palin supporter. The trick is to throw out there all of Palin's perceived
shortcomings to get people bickering resulting in those same people becoming even more polarized, but this one is especially handy because it can
become personal very quick. Having a degree (no matter what level) or not having a degree is such an inane arguing point. People come from all walks
of life and some can or some can't afford an extended college education.
Peace  As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:30 AM by Oldtimer2
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Yes but comparing a president to a vice president is like comparing apples to oranges,plus the fact Obama holds no governing experiance,rather have a
seasoned veteran then a guy with a good line,when push comes to shove can't put experiance over well wishes
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:32 AM by Major Discrepancy
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Originally posted by WAKEurMIND_UP
Don't be idiots. Think about it Sarah Palin holds a Bachelors of Arts In Journalism from the University of Idaho.
B. Obama hold a J.D. in Law from Harvard. He is obviously well educated enough to become president, a knowledge of law is important. You have to have
at least a masters to be a teacher in many places and we are going to put someone with a b.a. journalism from u. of idaho a heartbeat away from
control of our entire government? in.
This pick disgusts me.
The Major is always amused when a poster here at ATS impugns someone because they feel that their level or pedigree of institutional doesn't quite
meet their lofty expectation. The Major will dispense with the obvious inquiry to you own stellar curriculum vitae and focus on the formative
instruction of bygone presidents. George Washington was well thought of as our first U.S. President; he never graduated from college. His esteemed
place in the lexicon of governmental service was supported by only a surveyors license. Let's not forget that his contemporaries were schooled at
Harvard, Princeton, Amherst, and William & Mary.
Other U.S. Presidents who did not attend or complete college:
Andrew Jackson
William Harrison (attended college but never received a degree)
Zachary Taylor
Millard Fillmore
Abraham Lincoln
Andrew Johnson
Grover Cleveland
Harry Truman – went to law school but did not receive a degree
A few noteworthy names on that list.
As for the notion that a law degree somehow makes a person more qualified to serve in the Executive Branch, the Major is mystified. The Legislative
and Judicial branches for sure, but the Executive Branch would be much better served by someone with an MBA than anything else. There is also that
little issue of how the public at large feels about shysters, excuse the Major, ambulance chasers, nope that's not it, blood sucking parasitic
scumbags who can't die soon enough. Well, it appears that the Major is at a loss for the correct terminology but will leave you with the words of the
great William Shakespeare:
"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers". - (Henry VI, Act IV, Scene II).
Dismissed.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:36 AM by jamie83
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Originally posted by Dr Love
I'd be willing to bet that this thread was actually started by a Palin supporter. The trick is to throw out there all of Palin's perceived
shortcomings to get people bickering resulting in those same people becoming even more polarized, but this one is especially handy because it can
become personal very quick. Having a degree (no matter what level) or not having a degree is such an inane arguing point. People come from all walks
of life and some can or some can't afford an extended college education.
So what is your contribution? To pour gas on the fire?
Somebody makes an post critical of Palin, you believe it's a trick to get people to start bickering, and then YOU pull this out of your [snip]
"I'd be willing to bet that this thread was actually started by a Palin supporter. "
Are you part of the problem or part of the soultion?
Hint: As a mod, you're supposed to be part of the solution.
Mod Edit - Mod Edit: Profanity/Circumvention Of Censors – Please Review This
Link.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:38 AM by Gateway
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reply to post by WAKEurMIND_UP
George Bush Jr.
Education: BS Yale Univ., 1968; MBA Harvard Univ., 1975
I'm not impressed with Ivy Leaguers...
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:41 AM by Dr Love
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion. reply to post by jamie83
Some of us are critical thinkers and some aren't. If the shoe fits.......
If it shows just one person the light, then I consider mine a job well done.
Peace  As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:42 AM by disgustedbyhumanity
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I really don't care that she only has a b.a. degree.
I would like to see an explanation of why she attended 6 schools in 5 years to get that degree. This is extremely unusual, so much so that I doubt
there are more than a dozen Americans, if that, which have had such an educational journey. It sounds to me like someone who has a very hard time
deciding what is best for them. Could be abit scary that someone with such a resume would be making decisions for an entire country.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:54 AM by jam321
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reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity
Not everybody knows what they want to major in and change their majors many time trying to find the right interest or career.
There are also many people who can't go full time in order to finish in 4 years. I got my BBA by attending two schools and it took me 7 years. Of
course, I had to work and support my family in between classes.
Life is not the same for everybody.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 12:03 PM by jamie83
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Originally posted by Dr Love
Some of us are critical thinkers and some aren't. If the shoe fits.......
If it shows just one person the light, then I consider mine a job well done.
Making unsubstantiated accusations is rarely, if ever, a sign of critical thinking. Acting is if one has a monopoly on the truth, or "the light" as
you put, rarely is a sign of critical thinking. In fact it's usually a sign of the opposite.
And doing the exact thing you accuse somebody else of doing is the worst kind of hypocrisy, especially when your allegations are based on nothing more
than your own imaginations.
And rarely is influencing the beliefs of just one person a sign of a job well done.
In fact, if you are referring to your "job" as a mod, there was nothing well done about your previous post. Fanning the flames with unfounded
accusations against another member while complaining about that member trying to cause trouble wouldn't be cool under any circumstance.
When it comes from a mod, it really makes you wonder how ATS picks their mods.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 12:06 PM by jamie83
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Originally posted by WAKEurMIND_UP
Don't be idiots. Think about it Sarah Palin holds a Bachelors of Arts In Journalism from the University of Idaho.
B. Obama hold a J.D. in Law from Harvard. He is obviously well educated enough to become president, a knowledge of law is important. You have to have
at least a masters to be a teacher in many places and we are going to put someone with a b.a. journalism from u. of idaho a heartbeat away from
control of our entire government? in.
This pick disgusts me.
Just more liberal elitist nonsense.
When in doubt, strut out credentials instead of accomplishments.
Sarah Palin has accomplished more in her 44 years than most people ridiculing her will accomplish in their lifetimes. In fact, many would argue her
accomplishments are on par with Obama's. Some would even argue that her accomplishments were superior to Obama's.
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 12:07 PM by maria_stardust
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Please refrain from attacking fellow members and stick to the topic at hand.
In this case, "Sarah Palin as a Bachelor of Arts."
Please adhere to the simple request.
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