Think Your not being watched over the Internet?, page 1
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Topic started on 4-9-2008 @ 12:02 AM by oconnection
My good friend is in the IT field and like most people are concerned about being monitored over the internet. Post 9/11 there have been laws that have been passed through Presidential Executive Orders that now make it "legal" to spy on every activity that you do online! I've been aware of government monitoring on the internet way before it was ever "legal". Concerned about your privacy from big brother?

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Your privacy online is a thing of the past. I’ve come up with a theory that could potentially already be in use by government agencies. It could be used today considering the government can now officially get away with it.



Choosing Targets What makes an endpoint “suspect”? They can be identified via the blacklist method, wherein known “bad” sites are flagged and all traffic to/from them is analyzed. A way to supplement this blacklist is using a whitelist, where a database of all known sites is built up over time, and any new sites that aren’t in the database are automatically flagged for analysis. For ISP users, I could take this a step further and say that if the goverment gets access to ISPs, we can switch the term “endpoint” with “user”, meaning a dynamic IP can’t hide them.

Known Passwords Supposing it takes awhile to brute force passwords for users, it would be quite convenient to keep a database on all their known passwords. This database can be built up either by passively sniffing traffic for passwords and saving past decrypted passwords. These passwords (and combinations+permutations of them) will be used first in brute force attacks, greatly increasing a chance of a hit.

Conclusion Even with an elaborate setup such as this, one can argue that if they have nothing to hide, then privacy shouldn’t be a concern. Even if you don’t have anything to hide, would you still feel a bit nervous if a stranger was standing outside your house listening in on your conversations? After all, as long as the conversations don’t have anything you wouldn’t mind him hearing, what harm could be done? We know he’d never misuse or abuse that information he collects either… Right?


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reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 12:48 AM by GodshipForAll
We are no where near as organized and united as those watching us.

They monitor everything and data bank everything. Why? Well in my opinion, if I had the resources and man power to do such I would. I would ensure my power and position of it by monitoring all potential threats domestic and abroad.
Also with all the amassed information you'll learn human behavior traits, personal habits, predictabilities, associations, levels of threats to their system and such.

Knowledge is power. Suppressing Knowledge is power over the suppressed.

They are highly trained and educated in their respective fields. Protected by highly trained military elites. The control and manipulate everything that has a chance to influence peoples minds and perspectives.

They are prepared to murder for it, blacklist potential threats, surveillance and address anything to oppose their power. I imagine they have means of #ing us around we wouldn't even notice it, or think it was them.

Until we can organize ourselves in a similar fashion with a different mindset of say...Un-suppressing knowledge, un-suppressing technologies and medicines, un-suppressing energy sources....un-suppressing patents that would further benefit humanity as a whole and bring harmony amongst our species.

They will continue to dominate because they built the world we lived in.....
and they used as all as the tools..

Who likes being a Tool?

Peace and Harmony for all life.

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reply posted on 4-9-2008 @ 05:43 PM by oconnection
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Thanks for your response GodshipForAll. This program of monitoring is the public face for something they have been doing since the internet has been around. But this day in age government monitoring is leaps and bounds, light years away anything they had in the early 80s.

The U.S. government has had its hand out telecommunications system since its been in place. Just consider anything you do online potentially being watched by big brother.

Just another example of the run away police state this nation has become.


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 07:25 AM by mapsurfer_
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Sounds more like a software bug to me.. (Perhaps a masonic virus) or maybe those spies just wont let ya dominate that game. You might get a big head and want to take over the world. Certainly a threat to national security I'd say.

While I certainly believe the spooks mine alot of data, but think about what a huge it would be to determine what criteria they might consider to be a real threat. Of all of the data is analyzed by their software, probably some fraction of a 1 percent would be seen by an agent, and probably some fraction of those would perhaps illicit a response.

I would be interest to know how *they* might go about re-routing all that IP traffic to a central point.. Must be a alot of bandwidth required for that sort of operation. I might be naive but anyone could war-drive a wifi hotspot, transmit national secrets, threaten the president or whatever... and then drive away. How could they catch em? The best they could do, it track the threat to an IP, which probably isn't enough.
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