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Mom has breat cancer, so now what?? Help!

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posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:43 PM
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I'm currently sitting in my Mom's hotel room. She just got done with surgery for a mastectomy this evening, 9-3-08

Now the surgeon tells me that some "lymph-nodes" were removed because they were bad. She goes on to say that she can't say anymore because that's the Oncologist's job.

Anyone out there know what she can't tell me??


And what's with the insurance compay's rule that you go home the next day with drain tubes still in you??? WTF!!!

Any help would be appreciated. Logging off now. Going home as Mom has fallen asleep, will log back in win it get home.




posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:47 PM
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Hi Sweetie,

Well, your mom could have lymphoma. It doesn't mean she does, it means she COULD.

Here's the deal. You apparently have a wonderful mom that has loved you so rightly that you love her back the samely!

Do you know how rare that is?

Medical prowess has become awesome these days so what your mom, the doctors or anyone else is or isn't telling you doesn't matter near as much as you loving your mom, embracing the joy that comes from that relationship, and living it to its fullest for as long as you can.

Don't worry your days with mom away. We are ALL here just a bit, to share our love with those who we can. Take her love, give her love and enjoy the time...and when she lives to be a hundred and two years old, STILL KEEP DOING THAT!!!



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:52 PM
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Cancerous breast cells often travel to the lymph nodes and the cancer spreads that way. The lymph nodes are all over the body and collect the fluid that leaks out of tissue and returns in back into the blood stream. If the fluid can't return back into the body, the tissue swells with water causing edema. Since the nodes were taken out, the tubes are there temporarily to aid in drainage and prevent infection.

[edit on 3-9-2008 by ghaleon12]



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:54 PM
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it's possible he's/she's just not allowed to give you the final analysis of the results. if they scanned the area afterwards, the scans may have been sent to the oncologist, as his/her team would be most qualified to review the films. surgeons and oncologists don't cross each other's borders. did she have a full masectomy or just a lumpectomy ?
if it's just a lumpectomy (lymph node or suspicious lump), it may be to give the diagnosis. if it was a masectomy, then it may just be final films, medical care, medicines, that kinda thing.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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Prayers for Mom.

My sis was diagnosed with Breast Cancer and had a Mastectomy two years ago. They also removed several nodes until they were confident the threat was gone. She's good as new today.

Don't be too alarmed, The Oncologist probably has to wait for biopsy results and the surgeon could have been more tactful.

Just take care of mom like she will always take care of you
I hope Mom has a speedy recovery.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 10:31 PM
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i say to give her coral calcium, the whole medical industry is bull#, natural cures are the way to go.

i also suggest you read this book - www.calcompnutrition.com...

and dont listen to all the false accusations of it being fraud, if everyone knew the info from this book, most doctors would be out of jobs and the pharmaceutical companies would collapse



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 10:34 PM
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My wife had breast cancer and a radical mastectomy ten years ago and she's still here! Right now your biggest job is to maintain your perspective and give her the help and support that she needs.

At about the same time that my wife was undergoing chemo treatments I was diagnosed with a serious heart condition. I spent my time worrying about her and she spent her time worrying about me. The point is just that your mom is probably more worried about you right now than she is about herself, love does that to people. So, again, your job is to be helpful, loving and to do whatever you can to help her without giving her reasons to worry about how you are coping.

Find someone that you trust and who you know cares about your well being and talk to them so that you have a source of support. Stay positive! It will hlep both of you cope.

Lastly, my wife had a very bad reaction to the chemo and the anti-nausea meds they gave her didn't touch the nausea she was experiencing. She told the docs that she'd rather die than continue to feel so sick and, amazingly, they immediately came up with a second anti-nausea drug that really worked. No more nausea for the rest of her treatments. So, if there are nasty side effects from her treatments don't be shy about advocating for her, it will make a difference.

Good luck. We'll be thinking about you and your mom!



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 10:35 PM
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How would calcium do anything? And due to HIPPA, the doctor won't be able to tell you anything even if you're family, unless you have written documentation saying otherwise.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 10:41 PM
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well this special calcium (coral calcium) helps to alter the bodies ph level to a point were disease, including cancer, is unable to live in the body

its also very funny that one of the worst things to do when you have an illness is think negatively, yet thats what everyone does.

positive thinking, laughter, joy will go a long way, the power of the mind is more immense then of the physical



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 11:06 PM
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Thank you all for your replies.

I always feel better with knowledge gained from the people who know.

Been a long day, am going to sleep for awhile.

Again, thank you all for your thoughts and wishes.

Good night.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 11:49 PM
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My best advice to you is that you won't get the best advice around here.

Ask your mother's doctor(s) if there are more than one ask them all.

She's your mother so you have the right to know about her illness, treatment, prognosis, unless your mother herself told the doctors not to tell you about it.

Don't take any advice about miracle cures and dismiss real medical cure.

There is no scientifically proven miracle cure.

Breast cancer is cured only by.
- Surgery and/or
- Chemotherapy and/or
- radiation therapy and/or
- Hormonal therapy

Good luck.



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 12:13 AM
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I am so sorry wolf421e. I will have just sent you and your Mom a prayer. Chemoradiation has a good outcome. No two ways. You and mum are in for a rocky road. I'd say more, but thought better of it. Peace, prayers, and love and light.
From me to you. I've just been 'hangin' on for six months. Hep C from my occupation. Hepatic failure. And a mojo infection that seems to have my number. ATS has allowed me to spend my end days amidst of friends.

[edit on 9/4/2008 by jpm1602]



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 12:41 AM
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Originally posted by mandrake
My best advice to you is that you won't get the best advice around here.

Ask your mother's doctor(s) if there are more than one ask them all.

She's your mother so you have the right to know about her illness, treatment, prognosis, unless your mother herself told the doctors not to tell you about it.

Don't take any advice about miracle cures and dismiss real medical cure.

There is no scientifically proven miracle cure.

Breast cancer is cured only by.
- Surgery and/or
- Chemotherapy and/or
- radiation therapy and/or
- Hormonal therapy

Good luck.


Well strangely enough, your advice applies to you. You CAN'T go around asking all the doctors about her health because it is HERS and its protected by the very powerful HIPPA, which if violated means the hospital and Doctors and nurses involved can be sued. It doesn't matter who you are. You can be allowed to access her medical information but you have to have her sign a document. So no, he doesn't have the right to view her medical info.

"There is no scientifically proven miracle cure."

Well I just recently read that by injecting good ol' vitamin C intraveiniously can have a positive effect on destroying cancerous cells. Of course they say it isn't conclusive, but it has a demonstrated effect in experiments. Miracle treatment? I would sure say so considering there are no side effects compared to radiation or chemo which will make you feel like sh#%, and guess what? Its nice and cheap. news.bbc.co.uk...

Or the other story I read recently about Doctors who cloned a man's own immune cells to fight off cancer, which btw your immune system does all the time and is normally very good at it. Again, no side affects compared to chemo or radiation and probably not that cheap, but it works. Miracle I would say if they can repeat the results.
www.guardian.co.uk...

And those are only 2 possibilities out of a wide variety of treatments, there is much to be optimistic about.

And I'm so glad you posted on the only things that cure cancer, which I have already tossed out the window. What's more, and mighty encouraging, is that 75% of the knowledgible oncologists that you trust Mandrake would not have Chemotherapy on themselves, but guess what? They have no problem giving it to the other people that trust them. Gives you warm fuzzies, huh?

"Polls and questionnaires show that three doctors out of four (75 per cent)
would refuse any chemotherapy because of its ineffectiveness against the
disease and its devastating effects on the entire human organism."
Dr. Tullio Simoncini
Oncologist

www.winningcancer.com...

So don't be so sure of yourself.


[edit on 4-9-2008 by ghaleon12]



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 01:01 AM
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Honey,

I wish nothing but the best for your mom!! And you! I hope you get a good night's sleep and we will all be here for you in the morning.


The technology is very advanced now, just know that, and your mom has a good chance of full recovery.

I will pray for mom and you and your family and you will see, it will all work out.

God Bless!!!!!



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by wolf241e

Any help would be appreciated. Logging off now. Going home as Mom has fallen asleep, will log back in win it get home.


Sorry about your mom's predicament.

please read this link -

www.naturalnews.com...


Welcome to Breast Cancer Deception, an eye-opening special report by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger. This is a shocking, tell-all report that exposes the scam of today's breast cancer industry, revealing how conventional breast cancer detection and treatment programs are actually designed to ensnare women into a very harmful (but highly lucrative) system of toxic treatments that will only cause permanent damage to her health.



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posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 01:37 AM
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hey

cant believe no one suggested this yet. ok. cancer is nothing but a weak immune system and deficiency.
get yourself some vitamin b17.
if you have to buy bitter almond kernels and aloe vera.
take that.
all stone fruits contain this. peaches, apricots, plums, etc even strawberries and other fruit.

they contain cyanide obviously and im small amounts (which you gain from fruit) it will kill cancerous cells.

im no doctor but dont disregard this info

www.vialls.com...

look into b17. it will cure, infact the FDA know this and have actually banned b17, yep banned a natural substance because it will cure.

all the best.

herbal



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 02:01 AM
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Dear Wolf,

I recently expierenced the same sort of thing with a pet I had for 21 years and there mey be a cure for your Mom's problem. Although I cannot guarantee anything, at least it is a shot and that is all I can offer you other than my love and prayers.

Much of what happens has to do with your Mom's frame of mind and her own wishes.

U2U me and I will give you the info. My heart and prayers go out to you and your Mom.

Blessings and Love,
sylph



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 05:07 AM
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hi wolf
my hopes are with you, your mom and your family
i know what you are all going thro but please google "apple pips and cancer"
i have just lost my hero because of cancer and his treatment sucked, he was used as a test rat

i wish you and your family all the luck in the world but you have to stay strong for your mom.



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 05:25 AM
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Hang in there Wolf, prayers for you and your family.

As Valhall so beautifully stated in her post, Love & support is key whatever the outcome.

As far as advise or explanations on the medical scenario, not much help there.
I lost my sister to cancer a few months ago after a long, long battle. She lived in another province which made incoming information not always reliable.

I found the doctors at the facility she was in, less then helpful on several accounts, but the end result was still the same.

Keep positive and find out as much info (web,books,credible people etc) as you can.



posted on Sep, 4 2008 @ 08:15 AM
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Originally posted by mandrake
My best advice to you is that you won't get the best advice around here.


That is definitely not the best advice. There is a wealth of knowledge on the net, especially "around here". With the amount of members at ATS, I think it is very possible to find a better opinion here than from one or two doctors.



Don't take any advice about miracle cures and dismiss real medical cure.

There is no scientifically proven miracle cure.


That depends on what you define as scientifically proven. If you mean there are no "approved" alternative cures. Sure.



Breast cancer is cured only by.
- Surgery and/or
- Chemotherapy and/or
- radiation therapy and/or
- Hormonal therapy


Surgery also spreads cancer, while chemo and radiation therapy kill patients just as quick as the cancer itself. Tell me, why do FDA officials and relatives, AMA and ACA officials seek alternative treatments if Surgery, Chemo and Radiation are the only cures for cancer?

Ahh...Hormone therapy. If by hormone you are referencing insulin and if by therapy you mean, the lowering of these insulin levels, then yes, hormone therapy could very well cure cancer.

The OP. My advice is to do some digging. Start here. Do some research. Cancer is not a thing, or tumor, it's a process. You have to stop the process to cure cancer.

Also, you should probably convince your mom to lower her carbohydrate intake and to completely eliminate any sugar from her diet. Cancer cells love sugar.

Good luck to you and your mom.

-Dev

[edit on 4-9-2008 by DevolutionEvolvd]



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