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Originally posted by Bunch
Originally posted by jsobecky
I'd say the net effect of keeping $700 billion in the US is worth it, no?
I have a lot of respect for you BUT your statement above its been currently use as tool for those who want to promote drilling and is actually the most intellectually dishonest comment coming out of the GOP, but they think that if they say it enough people would believe it.
700 BILLION !!!! WE ARE GOING TO KEEP 700 BILLION IF WE START DRILLING
Honestly? Lets see, giving the FACT that if we start drilling tomorrow we wont see a drop for at least 10 years, that means that nor McCain or Palin would be in office to see this come to fruition.
700 BILLION is an inflated figures because it refers to oil pricies at a ALL TIME HIGH, I believe that we have oil has seen its PEAK demand, everybody talk about OIL PEAK but few take into consideration DEMAND PEAK, people and governments worldwide are changing their behaviours to expand their sources of energy and conserve, thats why the oil bubble has burst, and it would keep going down, some experts estimate as low as 50 dollars a barrel.
Originally posted by Bunch
Even if we drill that oil is going to be sold in the FREE MARKET, because is all about the FREE MARKET RIGHT?!... so we are going to pay the same amount for the barrel that everybody else in the world does, and if a oil from Saudi is selling at 100.00 and the U.S. is selling at 110.00 guess which one we going to buy here in the U.S.
Originally posted by jsobecky
The earth is under our dominion ...
Originally posted by jsobecky
Why sell it? We can keep it. Sell the excess. Make a profit.
Technology has advanced to make environmental effect very minimal. The earth is under our dominion, we are it's tenders and keepers. We can do it, I am confident.
Originally posted by Sunsetspawn
Yes, and did you notice the bit about keeping worldwide trade free...
cause it'll help our economy.
Shipping our jobs overseas with no tax penalties against the offending corporations, that's GREAT for the economy.
Higher unemployment, that's great for the economy, it makes me feel better because I have a good job.
Originally posted by Bunch
Honestly? Lets see, giving the FACT that if we start drilling tomorrow we wont see a drop for at least 10 years, that means that nor McCain or Palin would be in office to see this come to fruition.
People keep repeating this nonsense that is feed to them by their leaders as if they cant think for themselves and do some research and dont realize that all they want to do is getting the rich, richer, and pillage and rape the planet to oblivion.
People need to educate themselves before voting, not doing so is utterly irresponsible.
Originally posted by feydrautha
dems hate success, they hate americans working and making money... americans are only good for being ashamed of themselves and giving our wealth to the rest of the world to repent...
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Originally posted by feydrautha
dems hate success, they hate americans working and making money... americans are only good for being ashamed of themselves and giving our wealth to the rest of the world to repent...
Who tells you these things?
How can anyone here or anywhere have an intelligent conversation from this premise?
If that's how you feel nothing else really need be said.
We can disagree on so many issues but what can anyone say to something like that?
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by Rook1545
Plus apparently democrats hate americans and america!
How am I to respond to that for god's sake?
Originally posted by Bunch
You can drill now and we still be paying for the oligarchy in Russia, the theocrazy in Iran, the palaces and artificial islands of the Middle East, or we can move to renewables be the world leader in that industry that would certainly creat jobs across the entire job spectrum and really be energy independant.
I don't know why is so hard to understand for some.
Originally posted by Rook1545
reply to post by Bunch
Because what you are saying doesn't fit with the notion they have in their head about how to solve the problem. It is easier to apologize to someone for them being wrong than it is for them being right.
Originally posted by feydrautha
we can also not drill now and continue to pay the oil barons with no plans to stop
...
there are no good reasons not to, and billions of good reasons to do just that.
Originally posted by schrodingers dog
reply to post by Rook1545
Plus apparently democrats hate americans and america!
How am I to respond to that for god's sake?