Originally posted by Fathom
what a surprise a couple of libs on MSNBC (obama tv) talking bad about Palin and McCain...
ho-hum..so whats new?

Yea, we should all just watch Fox instead They'll give us the right information on the election for sure

Originally posted by Fathom
what a surprise a couple of libs on MSNBC (obama tv) talking bad about Palin and McCain...
ho-hum..so whats new?

Jeez, I thought they were going to be called "commie French."

You miss that bit at the end; "The greatness of McCain is no cynicism."

Cough, choke, um, not a Liberal point of view these days. Love to see McCain debating McCain.

They say; "Those Republicans" because the insiders don't really care about the issues -- that's just to sell product to the rubes. They'd be laughed at by their peers if they were so gullible.

Originally posted by vor78
Let me ask you a question: Which is worse...a Republican political hack questioning the choice of Palin or the Dems own VP candidate from 2000 skewering Obama on national television last night?



[edit on 3-9-2008 by vor78]

I'd say that McCain saying that being governor for 2 years doesn't qualify someone is the same as Biden skewering Obama during the primaries.

McCain basically described someone like Palin during the Primaries when he was talking about who was not qualified to be Pres.

So they are about the same if you ask me.

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
It was a great find OP. I absolutely love the "didnt know the mic was still on commentaries." Its the only truth you will ever hear out of most political sorts mouths.

I saw Palin's speech last night. One thing that struck me, about all the speakers, was how much they reminded me of kindergarten teachers. The speeches were very simplistic, with virtually no detail aside from hitting the "key words" or "key concepts" and lots of chanting of the key words in response from the crowd.

Their speaking seems designed to hit emotional hot spots, and they really dont even try to introduce reason into the mix.

"9-11...blah blah blah......religion......blah blah blah..... drilling for oil...blah blah blah.....terrorists...blah blah blah.......values.....blah blah .....big government....blah .......higher taxes..... blah.........government spending....blah blah.... GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!! {cheer...USA USA USA!}

I guess its brilliant if it moves the target audience, and it did seem to do that.

Edit to add,

In all fairness, I could do the same sort of summary with a Democratic speech, but the quality of the speech surrounding the talking points is just generally better, and the hitting of the "talking points" a little less in your face.

[edit on 4-9-2008 by Illusionsaregrander]

Let me just add how hateful Guiliani's speech was. And as far as Palin's... well your right they ate it right up but it had absolutely no policy meat to it. We will probably see more of that in McCain's speech...not.

Cheers!

This video is interesting, but on a political level it is of virtually no significance. It only tells us two things:

ONE: That media pundits don't always say what they really think. I don't think that surprises anyone and it has zero political significance.

TWO: That many republican conservatives secretly question the wisdom of choosing Palin for the VP spot, even though you'd never know that from their public statements. That, perhaps, has minor political significance, but I think most people suspected that.

[edit on 4-9-2008 by crudpuppy]

Ron Paul 2008 ...........Only story youll get there is Liberty and Justice!

To be a reporter in the USA you need to be a loud mouth, opinionated liberal.

Originally posted by Fathom
what a surprise a couple of libs on MSNBC (obama tv) talking bad about Palin and McCain...
ho-hum..so whats new?

Hey I really like your Avatar.

As for "accidental" live-mic incidents, I am honestly at the point where I think it is wrong to air such commentary. Words are typically being spoken in confidence, yet news sources toss all honesty and morals straight out of the window time, and time again.

MSNBC- Main-Stream News' Barack Channel.

Wasn't it Christ Matthews that said Barack Obama's speech gave him "tingles up his leg"? Here's his actual quote: “The feeling most people get when they hear a Barack Obama speech, I mean, I get, I felt this thrill go up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often.”

Now I do not like labels, but does such a statement not leave a "tingling" sensation of homo-sexuality? I am not calling Chris Matthews a homo-sexual, but his statement does sounds really fruity.

I was surprised at what Bill Maher said in regards to such commentary. Now remember, Bill Maher is EXTREMELY Liberal, almost to the point where even a Moderate might have difficulty in finding common ground with him. However, he essentially stated "This coverage is ridiculous, all of this obsession over Barack Obama, it sounds like they want to have sex with the guy".

Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen

Originally posted by Fathom
what a surprise a couple of libs on MSNBC (obama tv) talking bad about Palin and McCain...
ho-hum..so whats new?

Hey I really like your Avatar.

As for "accidental" live-mic incidents, I am honestly at the point where I think it is wrong to air such commentary. Words are typically being spoken in confidence, yet news sources toss all honesty and morals straight out of the window time, and time again.

MSNBC- Main-Stream News' Barack Channel.

Wasn't it Christ Matthews that said Barack Obama's speech gave him "tingles up his leg"? Here's his actual quote: “The feeling most people get when they hear a Barack Obama speech, I mean, I get, I felt this thrill go up my leg. I mean, I don’t have that too often.”

Now I do not like labels, but does such a statement not leave a "tingling" sensation of homo-sexuality? I am not calling Chris Matthews a homo-sexual, but his statement does sounds really fruity.

I was surprised at what Bill Maher said in regards to such commentary. Now remember, Bill Maher is EXTREMELY Liberal, almost to the point where even a Moderate might have difficulty in finding common ground with him. However, he essentially stated "This coverage is ridiculous, all of this obsession over Barack Obama, it sounds like they want to have sex with the guy".

Thanks for that. I'm glad someone is obsessing over the homosexual dimension of things, and figuring out ways to characterize someone as gay. That adds a lot of depth to the discussion.

Originally posted by anyone
And as far as Palin's... well your right they ate it right up but it had absolutely no policy meat to it.

No meat? Kinda like every single speech Obama has ever given. But you people like fancy meat, so you don't need much, just a "change" here and a "hope" there.

The best part about Palin is it really brings out the hypocracy in this whole thing where as no one was allowed to talk about Obama about just about anything without being ridiculed, now that Palin is in the picture the gloves come off and people are really going after her, even about really stupid stuff. It's no doubt she is a threat, and you people are showing your fear.

Tell the truth, instead of misleading folks.

Those are two "republicans" that are very strongly anti-McCain. They despise McCain, because he doesn't follow the "true-blue-conservative mantra".

Yes indead, they don't think much of Sarah Palin. They don't think much af any Republican that isn't about ten degrees to the right of Atilla the Hun.

Originally posted by Skydancer
To be a reporter in the USA you need to be a loud mouth, opinionated liberal.

I didn't realize Orielly was Liberal?

Loud mouthed and opinionated yes.. but Liberal?

Obama does not give any specifics at all, on anything. He can't, because his whole program doesn't make any sense if examined impartially.

There is no possible way he can do all of the things he claims he will do (universal health care, etc.) and only raise taxes on the top 5%. If you took 100% of their earnings, you couldn't pay for one month of universal health care.

He wants to raise business taxes. Who do you think actually pays those taxes? The customers do. Taxes are just passed on to the customers. So, by doubling business taxes (which are already the 2nd highest in the world), he will just rip off the consumers again.

He wants windfall taxes on the oil companies. Once again, hey will just be passed along in the price of gasoline and their toher products. Just what we need, even higher prices at the pump.

There is an old saying, "There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".

Whatever government does has to come right out of the pockets of the people. Government produces nothing, it only takes and spends the money of the people. There has never been a single program run by the government that didn't caost significantly more than the same kind of program operated in the private sector.

Obama says he will bring jobs back to the rust belt. How, by restricting trade? That's the only way he could possibly do this, and if he does that, he will cause a massive rise in prices of cars, machinery, televisions, computers, and all of the rest of the stuff we purchase from overseas.

Clothing would cost at least 50% more if it were all produced in the uS. Televisions and other electronics are not even assembled here any more. Want to go to TV's that cost 3-4 times as much?

How about a $50,000 Chevy? Cause if you cut off all of the imports, that's exactly what will happen.

And how about all of the jobs of the people that make all of the things we export? If you cut off trade, all of those jobs are lost too.

We tried this once before, with the Smoot Hawley tarrif act. This did nothing but prolong the depression of the 1930's

The problem with Obama is that he is a fantastic speaker, but has absolutely no sense of economics or history. He is surrounded by a socialist clique, that has no experience in industry, manufacturing or trade.

They are mainly academic types, with theories that have been a huge mistake in every country that has adopted them. Which is why all of the industrial countries have slowly but surely gotten rid of them.

But, since they have never been tried here, these fools think it will all be different here.

Keep in mind that one definition of mental illness is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting a different outcome each time.