reply to post by TruthParadox
This is what I mean by saying you don't know your own Bible. And from what you're writting, you seem to be saying that you only follow the New
Testament? Though Jesus Himself spoke of the Old Testament and for us to obey the commandments, so I guess you pick and choose what you read as most
Christians do. If you believe the Old Testament commandments are from God, then you absolutely are commanded to kill me for believing in Zeus or any
other god for that matter.
OT = How things used to be. NT = How things should be now. Jesus updated the program. OT said eye for an eye, Jesus said Love your enemies, forgive,
turn the other cheek, non-violent protest w/ Love.
So let's see ...Hmmmm ...should I go w/ how it used to be, or go w/ what Jesus says is the new and improved format??? Hmmmm.
Considering the fact that "eye for an eye" leads to perpetual and never-ending war, genocide, killing ala Jews vs. Muslims .....I'll think I'll
Some things in the OT (like 10 commandments) and many other commands, still hold true after Jesus came and taught "the way." Other things from the
OT Jesus said are outdated and things have "changed." So I dont agree w/ those outdated "things" from the OT. Very simple......
So far some one entering "the way" of Jesus, it goes like this. You read about Jesus to see what "the way" is all about. Go back to the OT to see
how things used to be and where the updates are, and then eventually get Spiritual Enlightenment, of which Jesus even said by this Enlightenment you
will know more things, things that arent even written about in the Bible.
"But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you
: but as the same anointing teacheth
you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, you shall abide in him." I John 2:27
I could never kill you for worshipping Zues. I'd talk to you about it to philosophically/intellectually try to prove to you that perhaps its false.
But if that failed, I'm commanded to Love you with all my heart as I love myself and to treat you as I wish to be treated. And if you dont want to
hear about the Jesus path, to simply walk away and pray that God looks over you and leads you to his Love.
Christianity seems to be in the eye of the beholder...
In sense you could say that, but specifically in this respect; A Christian just starting on the path will think a certain way whereas someone who is
further along, intermediate, and more tuned into God will know more. These 2, at times, will debate. The you have someone on the path who is
Enlightened Spiritually, and this is the highest form of the beholder because someone in this state is now learning from direct experience just How
Jesus himself beheld. This direct experience is called "putting on the Mind of Christ." You see everything in Selfless divine Love and compassion,
amongst other things.
So out of these 3, the beginner, the intermediate, and the Mind of Christ beholder, who do you think is seeing things in the best possible light,
being that the 1st two are reading about this reality and the last is experiencing this reality of the Mind of Christ????
So then you're one of the very few Christians who does not believe the Bible is perfect or without flaws. Most Christians wouldn't dare even
I believe the whole book ....but when one of the characters in the OT was saying that God specifically chooses the jews over everybody else, obviously
God chose the Jews for Jesus to be born through this race. But are they anymore special than anyone else??? Of course not. So I "believe" that was
the authors perspective of the situation, even though perhaps he wanst getting it from the highest perspective, i.e. the Mind of Christ, since Jesus
hadn't shown up yet.
Many parts of the OT are nationalistic. but Jesus taught equality and that the only separation will between those who are spiritually enlightened and
those who aren't, but God loves both equally. And that those who aren't will never understand those that are unless they also become Enlightened.
Some parts of the OT, the author(s) say that if the Jews win a war, God was on "their side". But if they lost one or the temple got destroyed, then
they were crying out over what they must have done wrong to piss off God. Again a perspective minus the Mind of Christ.
Jesus came and updated the program, so I dont agree with any of the "outdated formats." Their unnecessary for the Main frame that is Spiritual
Enlightenment through Jesus to operate fully functional.
I just mis-explained myself in the previous post, and most Christians will agree with what I just wrote, at least the ones that have the mind of
Christ that is. All the other beginners and intermediates dont know what that is yet.
So what you have most of the time, is that Religion was built around Jesus and stupid and evil things done in his name, by those lacking the "Mind of
Christ" or the direct experience of Spiritual Enlightenment. They dont know any better because they've built their whole system on separation, and
if you dont like it your the enemy.
But those that have the Mind of Christ operate on selfless Love to all.
Now some of those from the "religious Jesus" box, break out of the box and put on the Mind of Christ and would feel deeply saddened for their
previous actions and would from then on Act out of Love.
Unfortunately, very few from the "religious box" ever break out of it. And thats why when someone says "Christianity" most people give a sour face
reaction to it.
The Way of Jesus, is all about becoming like Jesus. It takes a very loooooong time for this to take place, and when it does we mostly see it in Older
people on this path, since they've had a lifetime of learning how to control themselves and let the Divine Love and Holy Spirit operate through them
as a vessel and become Christ like.
But when your starting out this "way," you are nothing like him, and all those atrocities done in his name, were by those that were nothing like