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Originally posted by Kapyong
Gday,
Originally posted by papabryant
It HASN'T BEEN EDITED! Up until the 1940's the oldest surviving copy of the OT dated to times AFTER Christ - the Leningrad Codex. Then the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, and they predate Christianity by 200 years. And the surviving OT scrolls found in the Dead Sea collection were WORD FOR WORD what the Leningrad Codex said.
Rubbish.
They are NOT "word for word" at all.
There are many differences, even in the famous Isaiah scroll which you apologists keep claiming is exactly identical.
It's not.
The various multiple MSS are all DIFFERENT.
DIFFERENCES so significant that modern bibles have been changed to match.
But of course, no matter how many times this fact is pointed out, you ignore it and keep on faithfully preaching your faithful beliefs.
Posted below AGAIN are some of the differences.
But we all know papabryant will just ignore these known facts and keep on preaching how they are "identical".
Another "liar for Christ."
[Isaiah 14:30
The RSV and NRSV follow 1QIsaa in translating, “I will slay,” instead of “he/it will slay.” The Isaiah scroll seems to better fit the context in which this passage is preceded by another first person singular verb. Among the ancient versions, only the Latin agrees with 1QIsaa. Burrows finds the Qumran reading quite convincing (1955:307), and the NEB/REB concur. However, HOTTP prefers the MT, explaining the shift to third person as a reference back to “the venomous serpent” of 14:29.
Originally posted by Horus12
reply to post by papabryant
Obviously I cant link every book Iv ever read, and Im sure I wont change the christians mind on a conspiricy website, but here are some links anyway.
[edit on 14-11-2008 by Horus12]
You are simply wrong about the evidence concerning Jesus. Matthew, Mark, John, Peter and Paul were all eye witnesses and wrote down their record after Jesus returned to heaven. This is hard evidence. To disprove this evidence you must impeach the witnesses.
Originally posted by Ghost147
THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS.
You are simply wrong about the evidence concerning Jesus. Matthew, Mark, John, Peter and Paul were all eye witnesses and wrote down their record after Jesus returned to heaven. This is hard evidence. To disprove this evidence you must impeach the witnesses.
i was just wondering if this was true?
Originally posted by Ghost147
thank you very much. this had me stumped for a bit.
can you please link me to your information though?
[edit on 15/11/08 by Ghost147]
Originally posted by dominicus
If you truly and genuinely become a Christian, you will experience God directly and mystically and will know through direct subjective experience that Jesus exists, and did back then as well.
Originally posted by dominicus
Not only that, hundreds upon hundreds of people witness Christ Crucified
Originally posted by dominicusand the Roman Gov was threatening these witnesses that if they keep on repeating this, they also will be crucified.....and hundreds did get crucified for refusing to stop telling others about Jesus' resurrection.
Originally posted by dominicus
everything else is speculation,
Originally posted by dominicus
Jesus' non existence really can't be taken seriously in Academia and general history, in fact Im surprised this was even posted!!!!
WOW