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Originally posted by AshleyD
reply to post by TruthParadox
First of all, I really don't agree with the whole 'religion is decided by geography' argument. This is a typical Dawkins-style canard. I'm not going to get derailed on this topic but many things will show this line of thinking to be erroneous for the most part. People (world wide) are constantly converting to religions they were not born into or leaving the faith of their parents.
Anyways, I explained this in another thread. There are two ways to approach Jesus:
The easy way: Asking and receiving (child like faith).
The more difficult way: Seeking and finding (investigation upon the evidence).
Both ways are possible but Jesus encourages us to do it the easy way. To trust Him. The best I can explain this would be like a spouse having faith in their spouse's fidelity. When a marriage (or relationship for that matter) is new, you take your significant other's fidelity much on faith. As time progresses and you know your partner more and more and you see that they are honorable, the more you will have faith in their fidelity.
Jesus is faithful. Always. The more intimate I become with Him, the more I realize exactly how faithful He is. He validates His faithfulness to me every single day. This is where the 'sheeple' accusation often comes in but so be it. I'm a sheep for Jesus and feel blessed to be because my shepherd is the good shepherd who laid down His life for this sheep.
We are Biblically encouraged to question, research, dig, review, compare, discern, reason, and come to our own conclusion. All of these concepts are 100% scriptural. But Jesus still says the easy way is child-like belief. And of course that is true and this has been proven to me by my own conversion route. I dug, researched, resisted, read, reviewed, tested, discerned before I took the leap. If I had trusted Jesus in the beginning, my road never would have been so long and hard.
And it had nothing to do with geography.
Originally posted by AshleyD
what Jesus seems to support, is to have child like faith and THEN question everything.
Originally posted by Convex
where exactly do you see jesus telling us to be a child ONLY in that way, only in our beliefs towards him?
Originally posted by plato63
The story, although originating in India, is almost certainly a Buddhist parable, attributed the man - Gautama Buddha himself. The story is of 6 blind men wandering upon an elephant, one finding the tail, another the ear, another the leg, etc. feel exited that they have seen something new (elephants were common in India then ). They chance to meet up with a wise man (a non blind man) or the king and tell him the exiting news. However, they soon find that their individual descriptions do not match with the others, and therefore start fighting among themselves.
You certainly did get the moral of the story though (my respects). If GOD is so "huge", creator of the universe, beyond good or evil, beyond time, etc, how can we as mortals say that we "know" him. It is quite possible that we have touched only a part of HIM. If we accept that arguement then the only way in which we can "know" what GOD looks like is by amalgamating the information from all religions, and yes, even the athiests cause they may have touched a different part of HIM that the others did not. All roads lead to GOD (this idea is borrowed), but can only reach GOD once they have united and become one.
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
I just read this on Dave Rabbit's Is Religion Simply A Security Blanket? thread and found it to be truly profound!
Originally posted by rightwingnut
There are present day relatives of jesus.
I am shocked that the argument that this person lived has gone on to 50pgs.
The government of Italy has become corrupted that badly that their records are false!?
Their memories askewed!?