I WAS THERE: The protest march on the RNC in Saint Paul 9-2-08: FULL REPORT, page 3
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reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 08:49 AM by kosmicjack
reply to post by AllSeeingI



Thanks for capturing that moment for us. Very disturbing. ATS and it's members should be proud that you put your (typed) words into action.

This picking and choosing of free speech rights and the selective response to protests is ridiculous. Of course the Republicans would love to characterize the protesters at their convention as dangerous so they can underscore the need for extreme security in order to manipulate their constituents to vote under the duress of fear.


reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 09:15 AM by jefwane
reply to post by Dronetek



I have been on the "enforcer" side of a riot control line. G-8 meeting at Sea Island, Gerogia about 5 years ago. I don't remember the name of the company, but there is a company that provides "protesters" for training before these types of events. At the official training we had before that event I was amazed at the numbers of "undercover" agents training to fit in within the crowd. The unofficial training we did at our armory was funner and rougher than the actual event.

I personally thought that "agent provacatuers" were something from a bygone era until I saw the Canadian video. I'm altruistic enough understand and support the need for non-uniformed officers within the crowd to identify violent protesters and provide intelligence, but when they pick up a rock and attempt to incite violence in order to shut a protest down they have crossed a serious line with regards to the rule of law they supposedly support. Niether am I naive enough to think everyone showing up for a protest is simply there to be heard. Some people just want an opportunity to burn and break stuff.

Great report OP. Though I thoroughly support the right to peacefully protest, it seems like I've heard from a friend that the Twin Cities have little more of the rowdier protesting element native to there than other places. I remeber this friend telling me about an "anarchist bowling league" that was active during some protests in the late 80's early 90's.

I'm hoping to catch some videos of whats going on up there to have a look at myself. As long as people remain peacefull and almost as important, videotape everything reasonable people can identify legitimate protesters, people just looking for trouble, and agent provocatuers.


reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 09:15 AM by Clearskies
Here's Amy Goodman on her arrest;


Disgusting! They can hold 'alleged', suspected, rioters for 36 hours, without charges!
An AP photographer was also arrested!
Witnesses targeted?


[edit on 3-9-2008 by Clearskies]


reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 09:41 AM by CO Vet
Be sure you are "Denying Ignorance" by reading about how these "protesters" are using terrorist tactics; such as spraying delegates with bleach; and plans of using urine, molotov cocktails, and other weapons.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I know a lot of you here only like to hear one side of a story, especially when concerning innocent "peaceful protesters", as these domestic terrorists are being portrayed.



reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 09:55 AM by patriot jim
reply to post by AllSeeingI



The photographer tagged along with the rioters- what for?


reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 09:56 AM by Psychopump
reply to post by scotty18



I really don´t know why you resort to childish insults.
People judge what they see on the basis of their personal frame of reference.

If you think me sad, please just refrain from commenting on my posts.
Good luck to you.


reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 10:07 AM by TheAvenger
reply to post by CO Vet



Any person(s) who sprayed bleach on other people should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. You want to possibly blind someone because you don't agree with their politics? How very wrong.


reply posted on 3-9-2008 @ 10:37 AM by newagent89
reply to post by RFBurns



Right. There is the 'freedom to assemble peaceably'. Cops do not like to have to lay down the law with controversial weapons like rubber bullets. Every person who gets shot complains and then the cop has to fill out a ton of paperwork. Also, what's with this about a government plant? Just because a protester wants to get everyone into a scuffle with 'the man' does not mean that he or she is a plant. Just a attention seeking psycho. What you say may be true, but I think that (and yes there are some examples to the contrary so don't people waste a post saying it) these Democratic protesters have more of a reputation for unruliness. Anything a cop on a megaphone says is taken as 'police state' rumblings. Also, RAtM may have intentionally had no power, blaming it on 'the man' so that the crowd would feel more soldarity with them. They want those sorts of feelings among their fans. "The man's coming to get us all and we are in it with you. See, our power's been cut! The Man!" Likely just a promotional ploy, with all due respect to RAtM.
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