I WAS THERE: The protest march on the RNC in Saint Paul 9-2-08: FULL REPORT, page 12
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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 01:26 AM by ANNED
Cop Provocateur bull#.
www.nornc.org...
That was a anarchist provocateur they have been screwing with the cops for the last 10 years.
www.nornc.org...
Most likely a member of the Minnesota Anarchist Collective.
www.ainfos.ca...
www.infowars.com...

There trade mark is to go into a peaceful crowd and get the cops to attack the crowd.

I will bet no one has photos of this provocateur except the anarchist.
The cops know that with the internet a cop acting as a provocateur would get busted so fast and have the media on there ass and a federal investigation
Watch out for guys with cameras at peaceful demonstrations that seem to fallow these provocateurs.

Some of these anarchist and there photographers after starting a riot and getting it on film make good money by selling the film to the news media.

Yes they are provocateur they were trying to start a riot but the people they were after were the cops.
It was a set up to get the cops in trouble.

How do i know this .
I was a provocateur in the 1970s
I hated the cops and the the hippies and needed the money from selling my photos of the cruel out of control cops beating the peaceful hippies.
I was in the navy at the time.

but then again the person that started this thread is most likely a anarchist provocateur trying to start something.

[edit on 5-9-2008 by ANNED]


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:31 AM by anyone
Not that it seems that it will matter to many of the negative responders to this thread -I do hope it does, but the OP is telling it like it is and I thank him for having the courage to place himself in harms way to voice his peaceful protest. I live in Minneapolis and over the week I have talked to friends and have heard everything the same as this OP is saying as well as viewing some of the horrific videos showing peaceful protesters being trampled and assaulted. These people did not have weapons, they did not attack police, they were unlawfully attacked and detained.

All of the stories I have heard were told just now on MPR (Minnesota Public Radio). Of course the mayor denies and the police denies, but you talk to the people. The peaceful people who just wanted to march and be heard. The police barricaded them shot rubber bullets at them, mace at zero pt. blank, pointed guns at their heads, beat and bullied. It discusts me the ammount of you who want to remain blind and eat up all the bogus propaganda about the scary "anarchists.' Yes there were few more violent people who actually called themselves anarchists but this also was blown way out of proportion. There were false entries into homes and contrived "evidence" found, people falsely arrested. Scary.

This kind of scary bullying is why I was a coward and stayed at home. If I did not have two children I would have gone to peacefully protest. But to fear my safety and possible unlawful arrest to remain in jail for days was something I couldn't sacrifice for my children's sake. Thank you to all the protesters who were there to help keep safe our freedoms by spotlighting and enduring the militarization that seems obvious that is happening.

light and love,
-anyone


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 10:41 AM by z.solkin
reply to post by AllSeeingI


I saw the protests on the news today and I could not believe they continued to pepper spray a girl even after she put up the peace sign. Also the fact that they stopped the RATM concert.

I believe that the faciest republicans put people into the crowd to make the ones supporting Obama would look dangerous. Plus the protester during McCain's speach last night. I think they were planted too.

It is all going to be crazy and the republicans are going to rigg the election I'm sure of it. If this happens we need to take our protest to every city and street in America. DOWN WITH THE CONCERVITIVE RIECH!!!


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 11:24 AM by Sheeper
reply to post by z.solkin


Wow, your like one of those crazy people that are allowed to use the computers occasionally, right? I think you just got the repub party confused with radical islam. But believe what you want little lamb, repubs are gonna make your mom cook dinner and rape your sisters. Rarrrrrr!

[edit on 5-9-2008 by Sheeper]



reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 12:26 PM by eaganthorn
Originally posted by ppskylight
Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by Kai Winters


Except.....why are proper reporters, with obvious credentials hanging on their necks, brutalized???
I mean, a woman who had ACCESS to the floor of the RNC convention, when alerted to the abuse of power, outside, by the 'police', against her colleagues....naturally went out to ask about it, and in turn, was arrested herself!!!!

Doesn't anyone see the problem here>>>????





People might see a problem here if they believed any of it was true. This entire story reaks of BS. It's all hearsay, and none of it means anything.



Which is why I keep telling those concerned, to document, document, document. Take some friends to these events, with plenty of cameras and batteries. Setup observation points ahead of or before an event, out of harms way and record everything, from start to finish. It’s one thing to represent, it’s another game altogether to show the world what really happens.

This is how the news media captures exactly what they need, be they left or be they right. True, the only thing seen on the evening news is a few seconds of an event, but what is displayed is what THAT media wants to show you. It’s called editing, it is intentional and serves the purpose of delivering a specific agenda or spin and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see it once you understand how it’s done.

Surely, you’ve all noticed reporters at an event, recording the entire time, only to see a short sound bite on the evening news. That’s how it works. Did you really think that the news media “discovered” a prevailing attitude? Come on, you guys are smarter than that. It’s just like when the engineer “accidently” left Jesse Jackson’s microphone hot. That was a gift from a disgruntled soundboard engineer, tired of listening to another politician getting away with hypocrisy. Consider it a gift, while you can, anytime you hear someone on the air speak in a manner that doesn’t match their routine persona.

And before anybody starts flaming me for promoting a means to create propaganda, I also recommend that a reporter archive their entire footage from an event so it can later be reviewed to check on the integrity of content, post edit. This used to be one of the rules of broadcast media reporting. The idea to archive was tossed out somewhere around the Nixon administration, yes the very same people who brought you the Controlled Substance Act.

As far as this OPs political point of view, it doesn’t matter to me near as much as the fact that he is concerned with politics and wants to make a difference. I would hope more people follow his example and attend a political event instead of just watching a three second sound bite on the news or dumping on a person for wanting to deliver his perspective.

And for those critical of protestors and demonstrators, shame on you, it was a protest that gave you your freedom. A protest that delivered the vote, a protest that gained equal rights, a protest that ensured dignity to those who couldn’t speak up for themselves, a protest that saved millions of innocent people from harm and brutality, shame on you. Voting has only ever determined the details of an idea that came to maturity from a protest!


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 04:20 PM by Clearskies
reply to post by anyone


For some reason, I'm not getting ANY sound from that video.
Maybe, it's on my end.....
Thanks!


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 04:39 PM by anyone
reply to post by Clearskies


It's working for me. Most you tube vids. are posted with sound off you have to turn in on at the window. Hope that helps. Or maybe your speakers aren't working right. Good luck. -You will be disgusted and disturbed.


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 06:11 PM by eaganthorn
reply to post by AllSeeingI


Good work, glad to have you back safe and presumed sound!
Don't let these guys get to you, many lack the resolve to do anything worth while and assume that all their freedoms were handed down by order of decree at their birth as a result of an unproked vote that just sort of happened.
There were plenty of them around when I was young, there will be more when you get old.


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 06:29 PM by anyone
reply to post by AllSeeingI


Thank you for being at the march. I cowardly did not go. I commend each and everyone of you. I hope this will be exposed and come to an end. We cannot allow this to continue. I 've been posting and emailing as fast as I can to help get the truth out.

PEACE!!


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 06:56 PM by AllSeeingI
RNC Police Torture and Deny Medical Care to Non-Resisting & Arrested Peace-Activists

Hope we hear more about this. Maybe someone can get an interview with Elliot Hughes to find out from him what happened in the jail. If we ever see him again.


reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 07:37 PM by anyone
reply to post by AllSeeingI


Here's a thread by techsnow reguarding Elliot Hughs with an interview of him taking about the terrorism he endured. The dude is traumatized. I hope those bastards go to prison for this!
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