The riot police are not Republican police. They would be there if Elmer Fudd was elected president. Having Obama as President would only make things worse in the long run as we would all lose are ability to fight back. The Obama/Biden duo will go to no end if elected to make sure the public has no way to ever fight back or over throw the government. Get your head out of the sand dude, that group wants to disarm and enslave us.

Originally posted by jpm1602
Pavlin...needs to rethink those glasses.

[edit on 9/3/2008 by jpm1602]

[size=5]Reminscent of WONDER WOMAN isn't it? . . .how aptly appropriate. [/size]

Full repsect for getting out there and protesting. I was at the G20 protests in Melbourne and I saw plenty of undercovers in amoungst the crowd. Some were just observing and using radios to identify certain protesters back to the uniformed cops so they could be isolated and arrested later. They also video taped and photographed heaps of people. They stood out completely though, because their whole persona and vibeis in contrast to the crowd so I totally understand your intuitive and practical conclusion in identifying an undercover agent.

Best thing to do then is get a photo of these suspected undercover agents, (try to remain unnoticed while taking photo, use zoom lens if possible) and if all is peaceful then all good and whatever but if #e goes down, you can ask around if anyone knows that person. My experience was that most sincere protesters and activists will be with friends or at least a couple of other known people that can vouch for each other. Not a totally fool-proof method but may help back up any intuitions.

My thoughts are that some of these activist groups and video/geek techies need to get some cheap but effective UAV action happening! Grab an electric remote control helicoptor or flying thing with camera on it to record any interactions with cops from above - that way it is all documented!

That way also you get could better idea of cop deployment strategies, as they have a tactic of slowly herding groups, using light efforts to move people on, weed out certain people, get rid of journalists and slowly herd everyone into a dead end area or oposite other cops. Then they do a massive rush and divide and conquer. You cab see in footage that when the crowd actually stops moving or as a bulk tries to go a different way they use tear gas, pepper spray to seriously enforce the tactic.

Another good idea would be for someone to develop some sort of small flexible foam breathing filters that you could just stick up your nose in the event of gas to filter it out and some sort of slim disposable clear safety googles that just stick on around your eyes with a filterred foam fitting so they don't fog up. That would help eleviate the effect of tear gas, maybe pepper spray as well. What if used a small foam fire extinguisher on a tear gas bomb? If you coated the thing in thick foam would that block the gas its releasing? We should brainstorm ideas like these people, not only for now but for the future as well.

Why?

Because despite all the hypocritical trolls posting in this thread supporting the government, the state, the police, the mainstream media, the corrupt laws, the erosion of liberties, the use of rediculous logic, stereotypes and generalisations and everything else that completely undermines the notion of denying ignorance, everyone else needs to see the reality of what we are up against in the fight for the future direction of this world (including SIT-X scenarios) These trolls of course are quite happy to support any theories and participate constructively in any number of far out threads that keep people distracted, but when it comes to actually doing something see how quickly they fall back to bi-polar agenda setting statements...



Yeah, after all the denying of ignorance about the mainstream media, the discovery of the truth about the wars by politicians that bomb and kill civilians everyday overseas, have sold out the patriotic soldiers, have rooted the economy and are destroying the environment..

BUT WAIT... instead of doing anything about all that other stuff just mentioned, lets arrest and crush the reall evil doers smashing up a couple of SYMBOLS of the state or corporations!



(sarcasm rant there)

We need to know what works, what doesn't and how to use that knowledge to empower and protect those people who are awake, awakening or have the potential further down the track.

[edit on 2008-9-4 by primamateria]

Originally posted by AllSeeingI
Thousands of riot cops, FBI, snipers, provocateurs, teargas, flashbangs, fences, and angry loud protesters.

A Democratic event at the Excel Center:
A handful of traffic cops required to manage the huge overflow crowd of supporters.

You see this is why we must have a Democrat in office. A people's candidate who doesn’t need to hide behind a mercenary army of trigger happy stormtroopers.

great post. thanks.

excellent post! i applaud your time and effort to type all this up, and an excellent story it is! i hope the public can see this for what it really is, and maybe some can "wake up" in the process!

Originally posted by Unkle Greggo
The OP claims he was there, but posts no evidence to that claim. You guys call yourself conspiracy theorists? Should have been a red flag right there. Stop believing every BS post that goes against the mainstream, you just wind up looking naive.

[edit on 4-9-2008 by Unkle Greggo]

I agree with you 100% Greggo, this guy hasn't convinced me of one thing. All I see in this thread is a guy making a few quite controversial claims and not presenting any real proof. (A picture of himself there, pictures from outside the convention that AREN'T from CNN.com) All I see is left wing fear mongering, and its been happening for a long time. The source of this kind of junk is from the same crowd that's been screaming about how Bush will "cancel" the elections and somehow stay in power. All of the left wing back patting makes me sick considering how the OP has presented absolutely no proof, and in my opinion his accounts are very likely partly, or entirely fictional. He has an agenda, and he is pushing it hard. Don't fall for this kind of nonsense people, everybody saw the broken windows and people throwing rocks on MSM. It's amazing, its almost as though you'd blame anything on the current administration, even the actions of your camp.

[edit on 4-9-2008 by ppskylight]

The people wearing bandanas to cover their faces, throwing objests through the windows of stores and overturning a variety of objects did not seem to be "peaceful protesters" to me. They should have had their asses kicked, quite hard, arrested and prosecuted.
Peaceful protests are one thing. Violence and rioting are quite another and should be dealt with most harshly.

Isn't the RNC and DNC good examples of the proper use of our right to assemble and have free speech? I think so.

What are the protesters doing? They are trying to deny Americans rights to assemble and speek freely. I find this of the highest hyprocracy.

So...you want to protest huh? How about getting involved with the party of your choice and and make a difference in your future instead of sitting around on your arse until RATM has a concert for you to attend, and start threatening to "Rage". Hmm, that sounds like a real good start to a non-violent protest.

Oh and this is a "Police State"? Thats laughable. If this were a police state, I'm guessing the bullets would be made of somthing other than rubber.



[edit on 5-9-2008 by Volton]