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posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 08:33 AM
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And I'm a HE

and Yeah I say post 60's

because there is no condoning what went before...

But is this what we marched with them for and fought for and changed...

for what, to be set upon?

Maybe they were right...

Show that your Human, the whole race end of America for 40 years is a lie of Black on white Crime, it's all Bs... we are treated like #, we can't walk down streets and are expected to say nothing

Look at the stats..

I never reported a single crime against me...what does that really say?

obamas whole stance of needing to fix racism is a giant pack of Bs...

and he si talking about compulsory service, taxing the rich (white) people

aiding African immigration,

Taking away our guns

and if we say anything about this we are racist?

Wake Up!

We are being sold a pack of bs and it will be our undoing for real... Race relations in truth Black against white have become impossible to deal with, I was a liberal my whole life it gets worse every single year

More White people were murdered by Blacks in America since The War started than troops were killed in Iraq 2-1

and we whine about the war?

White people are worried that Christians will take away rights from them?

What do conservatives want, Their children to stop aborting babies and not be victimized as they age by a society that is turning on them...that's racist or having a brain?

I shouldn't Love this NRA card carrying little woman with 5 kids and a strong religous backbone... over Obama and Compulsory service and no right to defend myself?

Are people retarded?

Slavery and no wepons this is the CHANGE we should vote for?

I wasn't alive in the past, why the hell should I be victimized for it?




posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 08:36 AM
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Loaded stats. A black man defending himself from some KKK does not count as black on white crime.

Also, a black man mugging a white person is not racism. It is not done because of race.

A white man dragging a black man to death behind his car for eating at the same restaurant as him is racism and is done because of race.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 08:40 AM
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Just eat the real stats you fool, sit here and bash the Republicans...

It's not a Conspiracy, I know that it's not organized it's just the culture... and Islam and Thug Culture and Socialist activism... It's not Organized NO... it Just IS

It's a culture of Rage, a Culture of perpetual victimization and blame generations beyond the time when there were rela problems

No Conspiracy, no game... Just Blame and Psychological inner defeat

Just a culture taught SELF PITY and that has become intensely Racist in a Nation that does and has done everything possible to embrace them



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 08:40 AM
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And see, you even admit it. "Well post 60's yeah we did our best to exterminate the darkies."

And you didn't stop there. MLK anyone? Or did that slip your mind? KKK, WKK, CCC? Or did they suddenly disappear in 2007?

If you want minorities to vote for you then you might want to start treating them as human and not try to exterminate them.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 08:45 AM
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Loaded stats my ass... Thats dept of Justice and FBI stats

What Black people are being dragged anywhere... nice 3 line responce..

"thats not true"

Your an embarasment and either a guilt ridden fool or a self pitying fool one or the other

I wasn't ALIVE in those days... get rid of it, I'm a Jew... My people were thrown in Gad Chambers and I have no issue with germans...

It's BS, it's all a Lie... the numbners are real and your making an ass of yourself arguing with DOJ stats and saying "that's loaded"

open your eyes to Reality

White people including in this election bend over backwards 99% of the time to accomadate Black and make them feel accepted, from TV to media, to work, to politics... Even the Bush's have to go...find Black people or they are Racist

It's a ridiculous sham already

I'm not saying all Black people I am saying by far and in overwhelming numbers Racist attacks are commited by Blacks on Whites

and there is No argument in defense but the past and I live here and now



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 08:51 AM
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You have nothing, your a bum, nothing post 60's yeah 50 years ago...i'm 37 I never went to a school with out Black kids I never said a bad word or did a damn thing, never worked without them never failed to befriend them and have lived with a constant pressure to intigrate and accept and Deny what is going on MY whole life and listen to an accept an outright lie



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 08:58 AM
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maybe we should elect Obama because there will be riots if we don't maybe we should capitulate with a religion that despises us and says we need to die if don't worship Allah

maybe we should just bend over huh?

No way, this guy is the worst, he lives in a flase world where he was insulted at some point

LOL after his Black daddy finished impregnateing his white mommy or after was his racial experience so awful at his age?

Sure tons of hate there against the Black Man that produced his arse huh?

he's a shining example of how white Americans were racist...that "he doesn't trust white people"

I guess we are just for sex... but otherwise no good...

Where is his Father by the way...where did he disapear to... apparently unlike White Women, like his MOM and Palin, There must be some kind of... Black Hole or Bermuda triangle where Black Fathers vanish into, probably put there by Republicans right



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:01 AM
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Originally posted by jam321
Seems to me that Republicans only remember minorities when it is an election year, Democrats remember them when they are passing legislation.


You hit the nail on the head right there. Republicans can't attract minorities because, basically, they don't care about them except in an election. Republicans don't attract minorities for the same reason that Democrats don't attract firearm enthusiasts.

John McCain on the Issues



Rated 0% by the ACLU, indicating an anti-civil rights voting record.
Rated 33% by the HRC, indicating a mixed record on gay rights.
Rated 7% by the NAACP, indicating an anti-affirmative-action stance.


Some may say that gay rights don't matter, but other minorities feel a certain solidarity with them as a group who has historically been disadvantaged. As you noted, young people (generally) are very accepting of gay people and when they get treated badly, the young people recognize the inequity.


But the Republicans seem hell bent on being the moral party when in reality they have some of the same moral issues within their own family.


Exactly. Everyone does. The Republican party has a problem and that is that they want to legislate morality for everyone else. They want to use the law to make people behave in a morally respectable way, according to their judgment. And it can't be done. And many people understand that.



I am sure that their are a lot of black people who share Republicans view but the Party doesn't take the time or effort to seek and invest in these individuals.


I don't think they want to deal with the race issue. They're simply not brave enough. You see what it has brought on the Democrats this year. Race is an issue and it's been hard to deal with, but Democrats chose the person they thought would be best for the job in spite of the issues they KNEW it would bring up. That's courage. And people of all "minorities" including women, see and appreciate that.

Good post, jam.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:06 AM
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We don't actually need minortiy votes the only people who call themselves Minorities are Black and Homosexual (aside for collecting aid than everybodys a minority lol)

If Obama wants my white Vote...

be a real man and adress the Truth about Racism in America, call for Black on White attacks to stop, address it, address that white people can't walk in Black neighborhoods at night...

Stop trying to win an election on Race alone... His MOM is White his Black Daddy is gone...

Adress the sheer numbers of assualts, apologize for calling us whitey, apologize for saying you don't trust white people... Until he does he is just a racist himself

Let Mccain say the N word once lol... such utter bs, so many lies

and yeah... mugging white people and going miles to another neighborhood for an "easy target" is Racist btw


The debt, the debt... who that is poor will be apying any portion of the Us debt? Who?

What amount let me know... please how the repulblicans affect your finances when your broke



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:12 AM
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Some may say that gay rights don't matter, but other minorities feel a certain solidarity with them as a group who has historically been disadvantaged. As you noted, young people (generally) are very accepting of gay people and when they get treated badly, the young people recognize the inequity.


What rights do gays not have? I realize you guys want to re-define a religious institution to fit the wants of gays, but the fact is they can still be together legally and get the same benefits. Its simply another excuse for the left to have yet another victims group, that it can count on for votes.


Exactly. Everyone does. The Republican party has a problem and that is that they want to legislate morality for everyone else. They want to use the law to make people behave in a morally respectable way, according to their judgment. And it can't be done. And many people understand that.


Wait a second, are you saying democrats don't want to do that? What about all the proposed "green" legislation that will surely come to fruition under Obama. Isn't that forcing people to accept your belief and morality system? You seem fine with that sort of thing, as long as its YOUR morality we're talking about.


I don't think they want to deal with the race issue. They're simply not brave enough. You see what it has brought on the Democrats this year. Race is an issue and it's been hard to deal with, but Democrats chose the person they thought would be best for the job in spite of the issues they KNEW it would bring up. That's courage. And people of all "minorities" including women, see and appreciate that.


The difference is, Republicans dont go around placeing everyone in groups. Most of us could care less what color your askin is and choose to treat people based on character., What you guys have done over the years, is to take that attitude and twist it in to a hated for minorities. In realit,y it is the left that is causing many of the race problems in this country.

Not brave enough huh? Whats so brave about nominating a guy who went to an anti-white, Anti-semetic church for 20 years? A guy who described his grandmother as a "typical white racist". It doesn't take bravery to do such a thing, when you have a media willing to spin everything you say as extraordinary.

The fact is, Republicans do care about all people. The difference is we want them to help themselves. We do not want to demonize other people as a scapegoat for their problems and put them in to programs that perpetuate their bad situations.

This thread is a such a joke. A bunch of self described anti-racists, who spend the whole thread circle jerking about those evil white people and their crafty plans for hate! Can you not see that its YOU who have a problem with people of a certain skin color?

On another note, I love how you guys ignore people like:
-Clarance Thomas
-Condi Rice
-Colin Powel

Oh yeah, we;re REALLY backwards when it comes to minorities.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:25 AM
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Republicans attract every minority BUT gays and Blacks and only because they tend to tell people to get back to work if they need a step up in life...

Where are Minorities... How many nations come to America? Hispanics and Asians are mainly democrats? japanesse? Chinese? Vietnamese? Indians?

Who... Black people, that's not Minorities that's Black people... you can't group all minorities with the one group that shys from the party...

And Middle easterners... okay

that leaves half the worlds other races that have no issue with conservative America...Prefer it very often



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by mental modulator
 


Just eat the real stats you fool, sit here and bash the Republicans...

It's not a Conspiracy, I know that it's not organized it's just the culture... and Islam and Thug Culture and Socialist activism... It's not Organized NO... it Just IS

It's a culture of Rage, a Culture of perpetual victimization and blame generations beyond the time when there were rela problems

No Conspiracy, no game... Just Blame and Psychological inner defeat

Just a culture taught SELF PITY and that has become intensely Racist in a Nation that does and has done everything possible to embrace them



The thug culture needs to take its course and petter out.
When I was a kid I want to school with REALY bad kids, I had a desk pulled from the middle of class and booked for double homicide right in the corner of the room.

Its getting better, the kids are changing now. They are breaking from races and
not sticking to their own kind anymore, I see it with my much younger sisters.
This is will help, a man is a man is a man,,, IMHO.

I have insulted you and it is not my intent. I have called you words that I should not have.

I am SO angry at the GOP... I have been for many years.
My class mates had to go to that hell hole and get blown up.
I am angry at the pre war intelligence and the ENERGY crisis most of all.
Day after day my state tried to speak up and FOX and the entire weight of the right wing media, made fun or us, called us liers... They stole our money by force of influence and power. TURNS out my state was ripped off...

So yes I am very angry and yes I do HATE the GOP...

I have visited John Mccains website many times I have read his entire platform.
I do not see much difference between what he is running on and what BUSH ran with.

IF we cannot get along I will gladly put you on ignore, however I value your opinion...

In my attacking the GOP I am not attacking an innocent human, I have very strong long held frustration.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by Dronetek
What rights do gays not have?


The right to get married for one.



I realize you guys want to re-define a religious institution to fit the wants of gays


Who guys? I don't want anything to do with religion. Marriage is a legal institution. One that anyone should have the right to enter into. I never got near a church and I am married. No religious words were uttered during my wedding and I am 100% legally married. I don't want to redefine anything.


Its simply another excuse for the left to have yet another victims group, that it can count on for votes.


Well, if "you guys" would stop denying their rights, then they wouldn't be victims, would they?




Wait a second, are you saying democrats don't want to do that? What about all the proposed "green" legislation that will surely come to fruition under Obama. Isn't that forcing people to accept your belief and morality system? You seem fine with that sort of thing, as long as its YOUR morality we're talking about.


Being ecologically aware and active is not a morality issue. It's an environmental issue.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:39 AM
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Being ecologically aware and active is not a morality issue. It's an environmental issue.



blog.algore.com...

The message that the climate crisis is not a political issue, but instead moral one is resonating. Rev Jimmy Allen, a former Southern Baptist president, called the climate crisis, “one of the major moral issues of our time.”


Al Gore himself has called it a moral issue as well.



Well, if "you guys" would stop denying their rights, then they wouldn't be victims, would they?


WHAT RIGHTS? You keep saying rights in plural first of all, yet you can only come up with "marriage", even though they can get all same benefits legally.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by mopusvindictus



Would it kill you to check your spelling in the posts you author? Not only are you doing a disservice to yourself and everyone else on this board, but you are also obscuring the point that you are trying to make with your inscrutable grammar. The name calling is a touch classless as well.

Ok, now that I've vented:

I think amongst minorities there is a real stigma against the Republican party, deserved or undeserved.
Like it or not, this country is becoming more multi-cultural every day and I think the GOP will need to make more of an effort to reach out to minorities to remain viable in the future.

Note:Edited to pare down the wall o' text


[edit on 3-9-2008 by round_eyed_dog]



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:51 AM
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His first language may not be english. It probably is but not everyone's first language is.

Second, what rights are they denied? How about the right to not be beaten to death for being gay?

Anyways, have fun wondering "Why don't darkies and fags vote for us? Oh well, lets go beat another gay black couple to death."



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:52 AM
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Originally posted by Krieger

Second, what rights are they denied? How about the right to not be beaten to death for being gay?





I was unaware it was perfectly legal to beat and murder another human being as long as they are homosexual.


Where the hell do you live? Some Kentucky swamp population 2?



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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Go to the south. Go to any place where the GOP has control. They might as well be swampholes, hell holes, to anyone who isn't a white christian male or his wife.

And its what they call "misdemeanor(spelling?) murder" not really murder since it was just some black kid, or gay guy. Just like "misdemeanor rape" when the girl was dressed in a short skirt or a stripper.



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 10:04 AM
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Originally posted by Krieger
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Go to the south. Go to any place where the GOP has control. They might as well be swampholes, hell holes, to anyone who isn't a white christian male or his wife.



I'm in the middle of GOP central right now. I moved here from what I like to refer to as a "liberal cesspool." Believe it or not there are homosexuals and minorities abounds. Most of which vote vote for their guns and vote to keep government as far away from their daily lives as possible. I found a couple of Obama supporters but by and large they still dream of President Paul.

I think you might be letting your prejudices and stereotyping run your life a little too much.

I should probably add that in this GOP stronghold it's perfectly legal for homosexuals to marry. You've never seen so many gun-toting same-sex couples.

[edit on 3-9-2008 by thisguyrighthere]



posted on Sep, 3 2008 @ 10:09 AM
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Wait, you said President Paul. Ron Paul is HATED by the GOP. Hmm, the minorities in your area want a guy who is hated by the GOP... Is that a clue?

Also, want the government as far away as possible? The GOP wants armed guards in every bedroom to make sure only Missionary position is done by a man and woman, married. Yeah, far away...

BTW, I'd vote for Ron Paul. Can't write him in though, the electronic voting machines don't allow that.

[edit on 3-9-2008 by Krieger]





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