'Women, children' die in coalition raid

'Women, children' die in coalition raid

www.theaustralian.news.com.au

AT least 15 people, including women and children, were killed in northwest Pakistan today in an attack a security official and a witness said was carried out by US forces from Afghanistan.

The attack involving helicopters took place in the village of Angor Adda in the South Waziristan region, a known sanctuary for al Qaeda and Taliban militants, they said.

Pakistani military spokesmen, and US military spokesmen in Afghanistan, were not immediately available for comment.

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[edit on 3/9/2008 by Mirthful Me]

This will be a firm test of the new Pakistani government post Musharraf. I can't see them being too happy about a manned incursion into their territory without prior consent.

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[edit on 3/9/2008 by Mirthful Me]

more proof , that USA is deliberately murdering civilians

Originally posted by Shere Khaan


This will be a firm test of the new Pakistani government post Musharraf. I can't see them being too happy about a manned incursion into their territory without prior consent.

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Who says it was without prior consent?

reply to post by manson_322


No, just conjecture on your part based on accounts. The article can't be submitted as proof of intentional murder of civilians.

What's with the recent uproar of US killing civilians oversees?

I have a Pakistani source who is not radical telling me that fixed wing planes bombed the area, Two Chinooks loaded with special ops troops landed under the cover of gunships and removed three high ranking AQ terrorist. Some terrorist family members were caught in the crossfire.

This is a rare gotcha mission by special ops and reportedly the Pakistanis had been on #2s rear for weeks just missing him so I think we just got him.

Hopefully they got the scumbags we have been waiting for.

reply to post by Sky watcher


It wouldn't surprise me that family members of terrorists were killed, since the terrorists tend to bring their families with them just so they can keep them company when lonely compare to our troops that can't bring their moms and dads and children with them. If the villagers tell the newsies that AQ or Taliban fighters along with families were indeed there, then the killings in the village would be an admission that they were indeed there and justified.

[edit on 3-9-2008 by deltaboy]

I don't care who they got, you simply don't go abusing the borders of other countries.

Firing on, or invading (even on a small scale) another country is a declaration of war on that country.


Somebody needs to give these slack jawed idiots a map.

reply to post by johnsky


Should tell that to AQ and the Taliban when thinking about maps. They are hiding in the wrong country.

Originally posted by johnsky
I don't care who they got, you simply don't go abusing the borders of other countries.

Firing on, or invading (even on a small scale) another country is a declaration of war on that country.


Somebody needs to give these slack jawed idiots a map.

Though its not publicised we did have permision im sure because we just had a long talk with the new PM of Pakistan and the joint cheifs were very pleased at everyone seeing eye to eye so to speak. The Pakistani forces decided to take Ramadan off so we had no other options because they conveiniately decided to go on vacation lol. Figures.

I want you to answer this. How many times has the Teliban and their ISI masters been caught attacking our troops in Afganistan? More times than you can count I bet so your little spat doesnt hold water. The ISI was even recently caught trying to kill Karzi and thats why the U.S. got very stern with them a month or so ago.

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what coalition?? Oh . sorry you mean the US Military .... or.. hmmm.. cuz..in my mind.. I don't see a 'coalition' forces ANY WHERE in mass as there is with the us ..

but.. yea..

ya .. know.....just like the movie V for Vendetta... some gov goon is gonna make the wrong mistake and the world will be war...

Notice no one cares if it is MEN dying, just "women and children".

A new article on the intelligence source of this is here.

Suspected US commandos blamed for killing 20 people in Pakistan were acting on faulty intelligence that was never shared with Pakistani forces inside the country, a Pakistani official said.

Nadeem Kiani, a spokesman for the Pakistani embassy in Washington, said the predawn raid near Pakistan's border with Afghanistan in South Waziristan was a violation of Pakistan's sovereign territory.

"The intelligence was not correct and the people who have been killed are unarmed civilians, not militants, and those include women and children," Mr Kiani said.

And here comes the rhetoric:

North West Frontier Province governor Owais Ahmed Ghani said the "outrageous" incident involved coalition helicopter gunships and commandos, and gave an even higher death toll.

"At least 20 innocent citizens of Pakistan including women and children were martyred," he said.

"This is a direct assault on the sovereignty of Pakistan."

[edit on 3/9/08 by Shere Khaan]

Wow the US must have thought someone big was there to just give a go to the mission like that. I suspect they might have been after Osama its suspected he's still hiding in that area. Even Pakistan's army wont go up there. Pretty dumb move though that is the exact reason there taking these terrorists in there homes because of bone headed moves like this. Sniper would have been better target gone no collateral damage and better plausible deniability .Im going to have to contact some friends there and see if they know what happened.

edition.cnn.com...

apparently no consent was given. The US wants to lecture Russia when it protects its citizen in Georgia then go on killing civilians in a sovereign country. Hypocrisy at its finest