What we've learned is that Russia is not stupid.

They fought a low tech war on purpose.

They didn't show off the lastest greatest goodies/tactics. Just the minimum required to win against a numerically inferior opponent.

What does this mean?

If a war between the U.S. breaks out, I predict:

U.S. satilites will be targeted heavily. Goodbye GPS, Sat COM.
Anti-Aircraft systems have progressed to a point where piloted aircraft will not be used over the battlefield. Outrageous comment? Watch, the Air superiority doctrine using piloted aircraft will be a thing of the past.
Airmobile troops (like rangers) will be decimated.
Return to conventional ground tactics as air transport will become suicidal

Tank warfare I'm not sure about. I can hardly imagine war without them anymore but anti-tank technology could eliminate their widespread tactical employment.
Increased use of Artillery, reduced use of missiles due to lack of satellite, GPS.

Thermal Sights limits will be exploited to the max.

The U.S. will be forced to go back to low tech warfare in many ways but, we are natural fighters as are the Russians and will adapt.

I predict the first widespread use of lasers as weapons (not just targeting) in the next major war. Which by the way will begin within 1 1/2 years caused by Israeli strike on Iran, Russia backing Iran, U.S. backing Israel. Listen to the news to find out which side your country will be lining up on.

Wish all ATSers the best regardless of sides. It's the way the lines are drawn, most of us can do little to stop it.

Originally posted by RussiaUSA
especially a very formidable computers race which in military technological use the USSR was better at.Which explains the USSR's superior systems or weapons. As well engineering marvels. This georgia war proves that Russia has the technology but needs to modernize its entire military.

I'm sorry where is the evidence of this Russian computer might? They can't even build a commercial CPU. The Soviets/Russians have never been superior in any way to the US in terms of computers. In fact the Russians have to buy their supercomputers from the good ole USA, of course not the best the US has to offer.

In order for thier SAM's and Fighters/Subs to be as good as they are they must have good computeres.

The US can't pay for it's overly expensive equipment, at least not forever. The cost-benefit ratio favors Russian equipment.

Russia didnt use their top of the line equipment either, also the georgians had more men and material at the crucial part of their offensive yet still failed to defeat the low amount of russians in the area at that time.

I think you are counting your chickens before they have hatched. The US has not won the war in Afghanastan and never will. Firstly, as was discovered in Vietnam, unless the enemy do the right thing and dress in a nice uniform and fight traditionally, you are not going to win. With all the rules that the west uses during war, it severely diminishes our effectiveness. While the enemy will decapitate a soldier and drag them along behind a car, or set up ambushed and roadside bombs etc, we will treat them fairly and in a humane fashion.

All this is to make us look good and seem above our enemies.

Can we keep the US stuff out of this?

Anyways, does anyone know if any Su-27 or derivatives of the 27 family were fielded during the war? I've heard rumors that a Su-34 was used for electronic warfare, I'm not sure if its true.

My question is why USA didnt just send in a bunch of puppet rebels and SAD teams to create and fund anti-saddam splinters in the military and civillian militia's to launch a quick attack on the palace and overthrow the b*****d. It would have worked better than any invasion, it would also reflect on the fact that that is how the USSR fell, almost without any violence, and the fact that saddam's loyalists weren't religious nuts at all (i doubt the majority of his cabinet were even religious) as the official state policy was socialism and secularism, they wouldn't have to deal with foreign fighters.

Invading a country you don't like doesn't work, retaliation maybe but remember the US attacked Iraq first.