Sarah Palin, AIP Membership? Alaska First!, page 1
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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 12:59 PM by maybereal11
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This seems to be a fast breaking story. I will be interested to see how this is spun by the GOP. A little vetting could have saved them a lot of headaches.

McCain only met her once before picking her as a running mate. I don't get it.


reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 01:55 PM by Shaker
I've read a bit about the AIP when I was reading up on Palin. I've gotten the impression that it's not really a "fringe" group at all, but a party with some pretty sound arguments.

And just to clear something up about them, they're main goal isn't secession, the goal is to get the vote they were entitled to in the 50s before they became a state. This vote would determine if they would become their own nation, become a commonwealth, remain a territory, or become a state.

Big reasoning for this is that the only vote they had was "Alaska a state? yes or no." Not the full range of options they were entitled to.

Another point I came across is that they state around 40,000 US servicemen were stationed in Alaska along with 36,000 of their dependents. As long as they were at least 19 they were given a vote. With a vote that was about 40,000 for statehood and 8,000 i think it was against, you can see how this would be a concern.

Straight from the horse's mouth.

For her political affiliations regarding which parties she belonged to (which I could honestly care less about), here is the Wiki article on her. While I'm not using the wiki itself as "evidence," I'm suggesting you follow their sources as well.

Side note: I personally don't like to see blogs used as "credible sources" because a blog is just one's own opinion put to the web. A lot like an opinion section in a newspaper. One person's opinion. All it is.

Another side note... I do think Palin is quite good lookin too



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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:28 PM by maybereal11
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Thanks for the further information on the Alaska Independence Party.

I checked out wikipedia as you suggested and this is what it says about the AIP...

Joe Vogler began arguing about the validity of the Alaskan statehood vote in 1973. Early in that year, he began circulating a petition seeking support for SECESSION of Alaska from the United States.

party members have also proposed that the state explore the possibility of joining Canada. Other members have expressed opposition to joining Canada in its present form but are open to the possibility of joining an independent Western Canadian state in the event one should be established. Neither of these scenarios form part of the party's current platform.
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You have a point about citing Blogs and I thank you for pointing that out.
Though technically the article I cited was a "blog" written by an ABC News' Senior National Correspondent based in the network's Washington bureau.





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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:32 PM by maybereal11
Originally posted by vor78
A little more crap slung at the wall by the media. Too bad, she's been a Republican since 1982. They provided the official Alaska State documents today proving it:

Link

I'm sure someone will be along shortly claiming that they're fakes.


I don't think anyone is disputing that she registered republican early in her career. There is nothing in the "Alaska Independence Party" that prohibits members from joining other parties. In fact they encourage this as a strategy of expanding influence and furthering the agenda of Alaskan Independence.

Edit to add text from my original post....
Acording to the AIP's vice chairman, Dexter Carter, AIP members must "infiltrate" -- his words -- the other two parties and push for the cause of Alaskan independence.



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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:46 PM by maybereal11
Here is a link to another article

John McCain's running mate Sarah Palin was in Alaskan independence party

www.telegraph.co.uk... tml

* Evidently the link doesn't work, Its getting cut short for some reason .. just make sure to there is an "html" on the end of the link and it will take you there.

And from their website..
GOALS
1) Remain a Territory.
2) Become a separate and Independent Nation.
3) Accept Commonwealth status.
4) Become a State.

And concerning choice #4....from Wikipedia:The Alaskan Independence Party maintains that Alaska's vote for statehood is "invalid" because "the people were not presented with the range of options available to them" and because "federal government has since breached the contract for statehood".

That leaves shades of Seccession. I am not knocking it, but if the woman who is going to be a "heartbeat away from becoming president" endorsed/endorses (she spoke at last years convention) a platform of seccession from the USA, what does that say about her faith in and commitment to the UNITED states?

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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 02:57 PM by Shaker
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I'm just trying to help people stay informed The majority of people only read what's printed and make an opinion it seems... Many would take the OP and say that the AIP is a "fringe group" that only wants to seperate from the Union, Palin was one of them, vote Obama. So before this gets used as yet another smear tactic I was just hoping to shed some light on the subject and show that they aren't bad and have some genuine concerns regarding how they became a state in the first place.

Stated goals of AIP <-- Ha you got there before me

If anyone would care to take the time to read about Mr. Vogler's issues he wanted to bring up, you can find it here.

Enjoy

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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 03:59 PM by maybereal11
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Dronetek...Have you read the posts or the original posting? YES she registered Republican..AND she was a member of the AIP.

SHE CAN BE BOTH. THE AIP ENCOURAGES IT. NO ONE IS DISPUTING THAT SHE REGISTERED REPUBLICAN.

You are pretending that this answers the fact that she was a member of the AIP and spoke at their most recent convention.

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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 04:03 PM by maybereal11
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Here you go DRONE...since you are obviously not reading the thread and just posting irrelevant images...

From a few posts up...

Originally posted by maybereal11

I don't think anyone is disputing that she registered republican early in her career. There is nothing in the "Alaska Independence Party" that prohibits members from joining other parties. In fact they encourage this as a strategy of expanding influence and furthering the agenda of Alaskan Independence.

Edit to add text from my original post....
Acording to the AIP's vice chairman, Dexter Carter, AIP members must "infiltrate" -- his words -- the other two parties and push for the cause of Alaskan independence.



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reply posted on 2-9-2008 @ 10:30 PM by justme2
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Sounds like you have some issues with race, yourself.
Poetic Justice? Are you a comedian?
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